I agree.

In my thread "propaganaology" which was a take on this idea, I was being sarcastic when I called it "science."

a study of something does not always have to be a "scientific" study.

That doesn't change the fact that it is a science. A four year degree in psychology is a Bachelor of Science degree and a master's degree in psych is called a Masters of Science degree.

As mentioned some are BA degrees. That also doesn't mean they fit the classical or currently accepted definition of science. There are many BA degrees on subjects I wouldn't call an art. It is just a title.

You can post Southpark I will stick with a more informed source.

Highly-Credible People
Question 9/11

The following people question the government's version of 9/11, or the government's openness in providing information about the September 11 attacks.

9/11 COMMISSIONERS

The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) said that the CIA (and likely the White House) "obstructed our investigation".

The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people (free subscription required).

Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.

9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history.


9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ."


9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"


Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up".


9/11 Commissioner John Lehman said that “We purposely put together a staff that had – in a way - conflicts of interest".

The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."

CONGRESS

According to the Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, a U.S. government informant was the landlord to two of the hijackers for over a year (but the White House refused to let the 9/11 inquiry interview him).

Current U.S. Senator (Patrick Leahy) states "The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?"

Current Republican Congressman (Ron Paul) calls for a new 9/11 investigation and states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on"

Current Democratic Congressman (Dennis Kucinich) hints that we aren't being told the truth about 9/11

Former Democratic Senator (Mike Gravel) states that he supports a new 9/11 investigation and that we don't know the truth about 9/11


Former Republican Senator (Lincoln Chaffee) endorses a new 9/11 investigation


Former U.S. Democratic Congressman (Dan Hamburg) says that the U.S. government "assisted" in the 9/11 attacks, stating that "I think there was a lot of help from the inside"

Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee (Curt Weldon) has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job

MILITARY LEADERS

Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan (Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt" (bio)

Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated that 9/11 was an inside job. He also said:
"If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an old interceptor pilot—I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were, and I know what they’ve changed them to—if our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!"
U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director, decorated with the Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal (Capt. Daniel Davis) stated:

"there is no way that an aircraft . . . would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control ... Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a 'conspiracy Theory' does not change the truth. It seems, 'Something is rotten in the State.' "
President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguished Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals (Lt. Col. Jeff Latas) is a member of a group which doubts the government's version of 9/11

U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said "We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a long time."

Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official (Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski) finds various aspects of 9/11 suspicious

Lieutenant colonel, 24-year Air Force career, Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs at the Defense Language Institute (Lt. Colonel Steve Butler) said "Of course Bush knew about the impending attacks on America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism."

Two-Star general (Major General Albert Stubbelbine) questions the attack on the Pentagon

U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year Air Force career (Lt. Colonel Guy S. Razer) said the following:

"I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government ....

Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.

We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"
U.S. Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, a fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown and a 21-year Marine Corps career (Lt. Colonel Shelton F. Lankford) believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and said:

"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future. ...

Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.

If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? ....

Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? ..."

U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' pilot (Commander Ralph Kolstad) who questions the official account of 9/11 and is calling

http://www.911summary.com/

I don't think psychology is a science. If it were, then human behavior could be predicted with more accuracy and problems could be solved or cured with ease. At best they are just guessing.

The problem with health professionals and scientists alike is that they completely overlook the spiritual aspects of the human Body, Mind and Spirit.

Doctors today don't know how to heal. They generally just prescribe drugs for everything. They don't even generally question you much about what you are eating, drinking or what kind of exercise you are getting. The only doctors that ask you what you think and feel are the shrinks, and they are paid to do that.

Doctors today specialize in one area and they don't know a lot about the whole body, mind, spirit.

The problem is that it is the "Truthers" who refuse to face the
facts and the real truths of the attack!



Q: How many government agents have been shown to have participated
or can in any way connected to the 911 attacks?
A: ZERO

Q: How many Al-Qaeda agents have been proven to have participated
in flying 2 aircraft loads of passengers and fuel into the WTC
towers?
A: NINETEEN



And it goes on and on like this...

Q: How much explosives were actually found?
A: NONE

etc. etc.

So who can't face the facts? The Truthers!!



There is NO FACTUAL EVIDENCE that the US Govt was involved in the
911 attacks in any way! There is NO FACTUAL EVIDENCE that goes
against the conclusion that Al-Qaeda radical Islamists planned,
financed and carried out the attacks all by themselves.



Sometimes the Boogeyman really just is not there!



I'm not ridiculing anybody. It is not necessary.

The facts speak for themselves. I have examined the reports and
the evidence and have never found that there was any evidence
at all that alters any of the major conclusions about Al-Qaeda's
involvement and responsibility for the attacks.

There's no evidence of a US Govt plot. There's no evidence of any
explosives other than the planes themselves. All the hijackers
were Al-Qaeda. Their money came from Al-Qaeda. Bin Laden took
responsibility for the attacks and celebrated the attackers in the
name of Al-Qaeda not only in the US but for related attacks all
over the world. The details of the engineering and physics of the
attacks have all been examined in gory detail and have been
conclusively shown to be completely in agreement with collapse of
the buildings due solely to the impact of the airplanes piloted by
the radical Islamic Al-Qaeda terrorists. There is just no further
evidence of any other outside involvement. Sorry but that is just
the real truth of the matter.

Why ignore all of the real evidence and instead point to some
un-substantiated conspiracy theory? This does not advance the
search for the truth in any way that I can see!

AND ... the South Park episode does SUCH a great job of explaining the psychology of the "truther" movement!!

sure does!

No matter how many times you state something, it is still a lie. The above is a lie.

Fact: Security company for the WTC was a Bush company. That same company was security for the airports where the hijackers allegedly got on those planes to do their deeds.

Fact: In spite of airport security cameras, there are no videos or pictures of any of the high-jackers in the airports or boarding the planes and they are not listed as passengers.

FACT: The FBI could not connect Osama bin Laden to the 9/11 attack.

FACT: Al-Qaeda, is a farce, and a CIA created term. It does not exist.

Would-be Al Qaeda bomber was CIA informant, officials say

FOX news says:

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/08/al-qaeda-bomber-was-cia-informant-officials-say/#ixzz1uOR5Uicx



Sure... now they are saying he was a double agent.

IT IS ANOTHER TERRORIST HOAX TO TAKE AWAY OUR LIBERTY. They just want to keep people afraid.


Yep, the CIA guy, was the guy with the bomb. I find that very suspicious.

Prison Planet says:

Just the day after reports that the CIA had foiled a plot involving a “sophisticated underwear bomb” targeted against U.S. airliners, the entire story has once again collapsed into a farce.
Just as the FBI has been caught directing every major domestic terror plot, it turns out that the supposed “bomber” was actually a CIA informant.

“U.S. and Yemeni officials say the supposed would-be bomber at the heart of an al-Qaida airliner plot was actually an informant working for the CIA,” reports the Associated Press.

“Officials say the informant was working for the CIA and Saudi Arabian intelligence when he was given the bomb. He then turned the device over to authorities. Officials say the informant is safely out of Yemen.”

So all the propaganda and fearmongering over this plot was once again over nothing -this was yet another staged incident just as the first underwear bomber event was a manufactured hoax from beginning to end.

Alex Jones’ <----watch his video here.

------>http://www.prisonplanet.com/al-qaeda-bomber-was-a-cia-informant.html

I don't know if any of that is true but even if it is 100% true none of that is evidence.

I don't know if any of that is true but even if it is 100% true none of that is evidence.

Its true. Do some investigation yourself. It is evidence that is being totally ignored.

People are so uninformed. They just believe what their leaders and the controlled media put out which is a bunch of Propaganda.

9/11 Security
Courtesy of Marvin Bush

Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."

The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites."

Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.

The Dulles Internation contract is another matter. Dulles is regarded as "absolutely a sensitive airport," according to security consultant Wayne Black, head of a Florida-based security firm, due to its location, size, and the number of international carriers it serves.

Black has not heard of Stratesec, but responds that for one company to handle security for both airports and airlines is somewhat unusual. It is also delicate for a security firm serving international facilities to be so interlinked with a foreign-owned company: "Somebody knew somebody," he suggested, or the contract would have been more closely scrutinized.

As Black points out, "when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer." [American Reporter]

Bush-Linked Company Handled Security for the WTC, Dulles and United
by Margie Burns

George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines, according to public records. The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for years to the Bush family.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm

You seemed to have skipped over the part where it isn't evidence. It is coincidental at best. It wouldn't even meet the burden of proof to have a trial. Not by a long shot. Even if he owned the security companies you don't think the workers would come forward?

How dare the South Park writers refer to them as "retarded".

It is a clue that if it had been followed instead of ignored it would have led to evidence. He who ignores clues is not a good investigator.

Coincidence? That's a laugh. There are no "coincidences." There are no "accidents." To sluff off vital clues and evidence by calling it "coincidence" is very sloppy.

You seriously think employees of a security company are going to come forward about the greatest crime in the history of the world? Do you know what they do to whistle blowers?

we cannot see the imagined evidence the truthers seem to fabricate out of nothing... 11 years after, and still not one piece of any evidence that would even come close to supporting any truther wild claim. but i know, since the truthers are so brilliant, and the non believers are not, that maybe after another 10-50 years, you might find a piece of evidence that will make everyone believe your fantasies...