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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice. all stereotypes have negative feelings, because they IMPLY through exclusion that OTHER groups dont have a particular skill, trait, characteristic that the stereotyped group has,,, I didnt take a legal definition that was straight from miriam webster what is a 'wrong' definition,,by the way? we can just agree to disagree, one having a very general definition of racism the other having a definition that has more 'prerequisites' All stereotypes have negative feelings? How does asians like noodles have a negative feeling? A stereotype is a popular belief about specific types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of people based on some prior assumptions. Another name for stereotyping is bias. A bias is a tendency, most of these are good, but sometimes stereotyping can turn into discrimination if we misinterpret a bias and act upon it in a negative manner a stereotype is also a PREJUDGEMENT,,,or a prejudice if based in race, its RACIST,,, Aye and if its racist it is usually wrong... Fred Astair... See white people can dance. |
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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice. all stereotypes have negative feelings, because they IMPLY through exclusion that OTHER groups dont have a particular skill, trait, characteristic that the stereotyped group has,,, I didnt take a legal definition that was straight from miriam webster what is a 'wrong' definition,,by the way? we can just agree to disagree, one having a very general definition of racism the other having a definition that has more 'prerequisites' All stereotypes have negative feelings? How does asians like noodles have a negative feeling? A stereotype is a popular belief about specific types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of people based on some prior assumptions. Another name for stereotyping is bias. A bias is a tendency, most of these are good, but sometimes stereotyping can turn into discrimination if we misinterpret a bias and act upon it in a negative manner a stereotype is also a PREJUDGEMENT,,,or a prejudice if based in race, its RACIST,,, Aye and if its racist it is usually wrong... Fred Astair... See white people can dance. lol amen to that |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBRwiuJ8K7w&feature=player_detailpage Although I am not a fan of youtube most of the time this makes me proud of some of our young people. Hopefully, a mod will remind you of the ban. |
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According to another thread, it is looking like Zimmerman killed a negro punk in self defense.
Give him a medal. Hopefully, other punks will think twice about attacking seemingly unarmed persons. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 04/07/12 06:57 PM
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According to another thread, it is looking like Zimmerman killed a negro punk in self defense. Give him a medal. Hopefully, other punks will think twice about attacking seemingly unarmed persons. or, it is looking like a grown man ASSUMED A negro was a punk he had authority to follow and confront physically with a gun,, and ended up committing negligent homicide in his (habitual) overzealousness... hopefully other adults wont make such overreaching ASSUMPTIONS and bad decisions which put them in the position to commmit such a crime,,, |
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So, he forced the punk to attack him.
Punks only attack if they are with a group or if, they think they have an easy target. |
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So, he forced the punk to attack him. Punks only attack if they are with a group or if, they think they have an easy target. sometimes punks attack, sometimes they first harrass and confront, and sometimes they dont have as easy a target as they are used to having in their past,,,like wives, officers, and other 'suspects'.... and then punks use guns,,, |
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 FREE GEORGE ZIMMERMAN!!  Oh wait, he is free! Never mind. 
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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice. all stereotypes have negative feelings, because they IMPLY through exclusion that OTHER groups dont have a particular skill, trait, characteristic that the stereotyped group has,,, I didnt take a legal definition that was straight from miriam webster what is a 'wrong' definition,,by the way? we can just agree to disagree, one having a very general definition of racism the other having a definition that has more 'prerequisites' All stereotypes have negative feelings? How does asians like noodles have a negative feeling? A stereotype is a popular belief about specific types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of people based on some prior assumptions. Another name for stereotyping is bias. A bias is a tendency, most of these are good, but sometimes stereotyping can turn into discrimination if we misinterpret a bias and act upon it in a negative manner a stereotype is also a PREJUDGEMENT,,,or a prejudice if based in race, its RACIST,,, Aye and if its racist it is usually wrong... Fred Astair... See white people can dance. lol amen to that and don't forget Liberace, Prince's father, he had rhythm.  |
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never heard of Princes father,,,
have heard of Liberace though there are all races of people throughout history with rhythm,,,, |
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never heard of Princes father,,, have heard of Liberace though there are all races of people throughout history with rhythm,,,, Oh yea, it is well known in the entertainment industry that Prince is living proof that Liberace and Little Richard had a child. i would not lie to you. 
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this is not proof of absence of racism any more than killing some 'suspicious' black kid is proof of racism the racism question is fairly insignificant in the shooting death of an unarmed 17 year old interesting though, that in a fight involving two people, where one was injured,,,,it seemed clearer that the one who did the injuring was responsible I think most people want someone held similarly responsible in this teenagers death,,, So since I know martial arts if someone attacks me but I injure them then i am responsible? it would be up to a jury,,,, Really you believe that or are you just arguing? So a criminal trying to mug me and i am responsible for any injuries he gets? That is what you believe? Seriously where is personal responsibility. Sorry chaz, but if someone poked you in the nose and you broke their ribs you are responsible as someone who is trained "to fight" for their injuries. I know the law doesn't make sense (this is the law in Texas, you can subdue but not hurt) or does it? Forgot my point, and now I am just drifting. As far as Zimmerman goes, to me it is murder...the kid was unarmed and half his size. Even if the kid did jump him, that doesn't give him grounds to kill him, JMHO right or wrong. |
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never heard of Princes father,,, have heard of Liberace though there are all races of people throughout history with rhythm,,,, Oh yea, it is well known in the entertainment industry that Prince is living proof that Liberace and Little Richard had a child. i would not lie to you.  
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Mon 04/09/12 01:29 PM
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IF it is a given that someone has initiated an attack , than harm to them in the form of defending yourself would often fall under self defense,,,,except in those places where a 'reasonable' force rule is applied So everywhere in the USA. The SCOTUS set the definition for self defense, all state laws must comply with that ruling. I already refuted the tired old canard that is labeling this a SYG case. This falls under the SCOTUS supreme court ruling on self defense. the kid was unarmed and half his size. You have been corrected multiple times on the size difference between the two. One was 6 foot 3 160lb the other 5 foot 9 200lb. Not a big difference. Also if this case did play out with a witness who saw the attack, and knows Z was on bottom begging for the fight to stop then no state in the US could prosecute Z based on the supreme court ruling of self defense, unless they could call into question that witness account. I personally am not willing to believe any single piece of information that has been released becuase far too often we are seeing contradictory information. So we will have to wait and see. |
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IF it is a given that someone has initiated an attack , than harm to them in the form of defending yourself would often fall under self defense,,,,except in those places where a 'reasonable' force rule is applied So everywhere in the USA. The SCOTUS set the definition for self defense, all state laws must comply with that ruling. I already refuted the tired old canard that is labeling this a SYG case. This falls under the SCOTUS supreme court ruling on self defense. the kid was unarmed and half his size. You have been corrected multiple times on the size difference between the two. One was 6 foot 3 160lb the other 5 foot 9 200lb. Not a big difference. Also if this case did play out with a witness who saw the attack, and knows Z was on bottom begging for the fight to stop then no state in the US could prosecute Z based on the supreme court ruling of self defense witness they could call into question that witness account. I personally am not willing to believe any single piece of information that has been released becuase far too often we are seeing contradictory information. So we will have to wait and see. self defense requirements vary from state to state, and STATE supreme courts have set those standards,,,, |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Mon 04/09/12 01:33 PM
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IF it is a given that someone has initiated an attack , than harm to them in the form of defending yourself would often fall under self defense,,,,except in those places where a 'reasonable' force rule is applied So everywhere in the USA. The SCOTUS set the definition for self defense, all state laws must comply with that ruling. I already refuted the tired old canard that is labeling this a SYG case. This falls under the SCOTUS supreme court ruling on self defense. the kid was unarmed and half his size. You have been corrected multiple times on the size difference between the two. One was 6 foot 3 160lb the other 5 foot 9 200lb. Not a big difference. Also if this case did play out with a witness who saw the attack, and knows Z was on bottom begging for the fight to stop then no state in the US could prosecute Z based on the supreme court ruling of self defense witness they could call into question that witness account. I personally am not willing to believe any single piece of information that has been released becuase far too often we are seeing contradictory information. So we will have to wait and see. self defense requirements vary from state to state, and STATE supreme courts have set those standards,,,, Fear for life and limb is a fundamental attribute for all self defense claims since the SCOTUS ruling. Find a state without it and it will be in violation of the federal ruling. |
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IF it is a given that someone has initiated an attack , than harm to them in the form of defending yourself would often fall under self defense,,,,except in those places where a 'reasonable' force rule is applied So everywhere in the USA. The SCOTUS set the definition for self defense, all state laws must comply with that ruling. I already refuted the tired old canard that is labeling this a SYG case. This falls under the SCOTUS supreme court ruling on self defense. the kid was unarmed and half his size. You have been corrected multiple times on the size difference between the two. One was 6 foot 3 160lb the other 5 foot 9 200lb. Not a big difference. Also if this case did play out with a witness who saw the attack, and knows Z was on bottom begging for the fight to stop then no state in the US could prosecute Z based on the supreme court ruling of self defense, unless they could call into question that witness account. I personally am not willing to believe any single piece of information that has been released becuase far too often we are seeing contradictory information. So we will have to wait and see. this does not matter once a gun is in the equation what the person claims to have seen could be a justified attempt to escape deadly force, (for which simple 'retreat' would not be protection) |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Mon 04/09/12 01:45 PM
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What doesn't matter? ( and if size doesn't matter why do you keep bringing it up? Or does it only matter when it is clearly supporting your favored narrative?)
Deadly force is deadly force, the law does not discriminate between in what way the deadly force is used, or what tools are used. (What Martin thought and why he attacked really does not matter one bit to Zimmerman's self defense claim.) What Zimmerman thought and if Zimmerman tried to deescalate the fight is what matters to his self defense claim. |
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IF it is a given that someone has initiated an attack , than harm to them in the form of defending yourself would often fall under self defense,,,,except in those places where a 'reasonable' force rule is applied So everywhere in the USA. The SCOTUS set the definition for self defense, all state laws must comply with that ruling. I already refuted the tired old canard that is labeling this a SYG case. This falls under the SCOTUS supreme court ruling on self defense. the kid was unarmed and half his size. You have been corrected multiple times on the size difference between the two. One was 6 foot 3 160lb the other 5 foot 9 200lb. Not a big difference. Also if this case did play out with a witness who saw the attack, and knows Z was on bottom begging for the fight to stop then no state in the US could prosecute Z based on the supreme court ruling of self defense witness they could call into question that witness account. I personally am not willing to believe any single piece of information that has been released becuase far too often we are seeing contradictory information. So we will have to wait and see. self defense requirements vary from state to state, and STATE supreme courts have set those standards,,,, Fear for life and limb is a fundamental attribute for all self defense claims since the SCOTUS ruling. Find a state without it and it will be in violation of the federal ruling. fear for life and limb is NOT an attribute if the person in fear has INITIATED The confrontation as in if you approach someone with a knife and they knock the snot out of you, you cant then shoot them because of the potential danger YOU CAUSED,,,,, |
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