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| Topic: George Zimmerman Proven to NOT be a Racist | |
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How do you prove someone isn't racist?  ITs hard to prove negatives,,,, I would have a hard time believing most people in america are not racist on some level,,,either through stereotypes based in race or prejudice behavior or assumption based in race,,,, Stereotypes are not racism. Believing one is better than someone else because of race is racism. stereotypes are racism, if they attribute a characteristic or trait or weakness or strength to one race or another,,,,, thats where it starts,,IF I believe white people cant dance, by extension, ,that causes me to believe I must be a better dancer than white people yet dancing is not a RACIAL skill, it is acquired from environment,,, Again its not racism. Its a generalization. If you think you are a better dancer than white people that isn't racist |
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How do you prove someone isn't racist? ITs hard to prove negatives,,,, I would have a hard time believing most people in america are not racist on some level,,,either through stereotypes based in race or prejudice behavior or assumption based in race,,,, Stereotypes are not racism. Believing one is better than someone else because of race is racism. stereotypes are racism, if they attribute a characteristic or trait or weakness or strength to one race or another,,,,, thats where it starts,,IF I believe white people cant dance, by extension, ,that causes me to believe I must be a better dancer than white people yet dancing is not a RACIAL skill, it is acquired from environment,,, Again its not racism. Its a generalization. If you think you are a better dancer than white people that isn't racist on what would I base my skill against ALL White people then? what keeps it from being a racist assumption? |
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Its not racist because you are not thinking you are superior. I am not talking a skill I am talking as a human. That is the definition of racism.
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this is not proof of absence of racism any more than killing some 'suspicious' black kid is proof of racism the racism question is fairly insignificant in the shooting death of an unarmed 17 year old interesting though, that in a fight involving two people, where one was injured,,,,it seemed clearer that the one who did the injuring was responsible I think most people want someone held similarly responsible in this teenagers death,,, So since I know martial arts if someone attacks me but I injure them then i am responsible? it would be up to a jury,,,, Really you believe that or are you just arguing? So a criminal trying to mug me and i am responsible for any injuries he gets? That is what you believe? Seriously where is personal responsibility. I for some reason was reading this incorrectly, thinking about a case happening inside a home if it is proven that someone was mugging you, self defense would probably be legal justification to your harming them IF it is a given that someone has initiated an attack , than harm to them in the form of defending yourself would often fall under self defense,,,,except in those places where a 'reasonable' force rule is applied for instance, if someone was in your home crawling OUT your window with some stuff, and you came home and shot them on their way out,,,that would probably not be justified as 'reasonable' force in all states,,, |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 04/06/12 11:14 AM
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Its not racist because you are not thinking you are superior. I am not talking a skill I am talking as a human. That is the definition of racism. ANY Assumption of superiority, as a human, or in a skill is racist , if it is based only on the knowledge of ones race,,, ,,,thats why I said it depends upon how someone defines racism,,thats how I Define it so it would be hard for ME to believe that most americans are not racist on some level.. 'ism',,(belief system) race (race) a RACE BASED belief system,,,racism |
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Now are just making up a definition. Sub is under and marine is water but I cant say a shark is a submarine because its underwater. Racism is believe that one is superior based on race. I can say Asians like noodles and not think I am better than them and it is not racist. It is just a generalization.
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 04/06/12 11:31 AM
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Now are just making up a definition. Sub is under and marine is water but I cant say a shark is a submarine because its underwater. Racism is believe that one is superior based on race. I can say Asians like noodles and not think I am better than them and it is not racist. It is just a generalization. bad example, but the english language is complex submarine is a noun and an adjective its use as a noun refers to a vessel its use as an adjective, can and does, apply to living things the whale, lives under water, but it is a marine animal as opposed to a submarine animal, because it can only stay under water for small periods of time before needing to come up for AIR submarine animals, literally STAY Beneath the water and dont need to come 'up' for air generalizations based in race are, by definition, racist generalizations IF I say 'asians like noodles' that is a racist statement,,,although less offensive than saying 'asians have no rhythm' (Which is INCREDIBLY Untrue, but just for example sake) both make an assumption about a group of billions of people which one person has not had the resources to truly make an authoritative statement about IF I say, however 'Asian people I HAVE MET, have liked noodles', that refers to a specific SUBGROUP of a race and is not racist |
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Look up the definition of racism.
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Look up the definition of racism. : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2: racial prejudice or discrimination RACIAL PREJUDICE,,, prejudice: a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion so, IF I have a PRECONCEIVED idea that asians like noodles,,, that is a preconceived judgement or opinion that is RACIAL in nature or,,, racist,,, |
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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice.
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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice. all stereotypes have negative feelings, because they IMPLY through exclusion that OTHER groups dont have a particular skill, trait, characteristic that the stereotyped group has,,, I didnt take a legal definition that was straight from miriam webster what is a 'wrong' definition,,by the way? we can just agree to disagree, one having a very general definition of racism the other having a definition that has more 'prerequisites' |
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Just for arguments sake.
Let's say, it's found out the kid was really a punk and assaulted Mr Zimmerman. Resulting in the self defense death of the kid. Who here will condemn those racist howler Panthers for their wanting innocent blood? |
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Just for arguments sake. Let's say, it's found out the kid was really a punk and assaulted Mr Zimmerman. Resulting in the self defense death of the kid. Who here will condemn those racist howler Panthers for their wanting innocent blood? I already condemn them, violence is not an answer and further insults the cause of justice being sought,,,, |
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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice. all stereotypes have negative feelings, because they IMPLY through exclusion that OTHER groups dont have a particular skill, trait, characteristic that the stereotyped group has,,, I didnt take a legal definition that was straight from miriam webster what is a 'wrong' definition,,by the way? we can just agree to disagree, one having a very general definition of racism the other having a definition that has more 'prerequisites' All stereotypes have negative feelings? How does asians like noodles have a negative feeling? A stereotype is a popular belief about specific types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of people based on some prior assumptions. Another name for stereotyping is bias. A bias is a tendency, most of these are good, but sometimes stereotyping can turn into discrimination if we misinterpret a bias and act upon it in a negative manner |
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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice. all stereotypes have negative feelings, because they IMPLY through exclusion that OTHER groups dont have a particular skill, trait, characteristic that the stereotyped group has,,, I didnt take a legal definition that was straight from miriam webster what is a 'wrong' definition,,by the way? we can just agree to disagree, one having a very general definition of racism the other having a definition that has more 'prerequisites' All stereotypes have negative feelings? How does asians like noodles have a negative feeling? A stereotype is a popular belief about specific types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of people based on some prior assumptions. Another name for stereotyping is bias. A bias is a tendency, most of these are good, but sometimes stereotyping can turn into discrimination if we misinterpret a bias and act upon it in a negative manner a stereotype is also a PREJUDGEMENT,,,or a prejudice if based in race, its RACIST,,, |
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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice. all stereotypes have negative feelings, because they IMPLY through exclusion that OTHER groups dont have a particular skill, trait, characteristic that the stereotyped group has,,, I didnt take a legal definition that was straight from miriam webster what is a 'wrong' definition,,by the way? we can just agree to disagree, one having a very general definition of racism the other having a definition that has more 'prerequisites' All stereotypes have negative feelings? How does asians like noodles have a negative feeling? A stereotype is a popular belief about specific types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of people based on some prior assumptions. Another name for stereotyping is bias. A bias is a tendency, most of these are good, but sometimes stereotyping can turn into discrimination if we misinterpret a bias and act upon it in a negative manner a stereotype is also a PREJUDGEMENT,,,or a prejudice if based in race, its RACIST,,, Again that is the wrong definition. You are using prejudice as a synonym for bias which is not racism. Its like if I say pine but as defined as the verb to grieve but then try to say its a tree. Or that a tree is an emotion. Racism is defined as “the belief that races exist, that physical characteristics determine cultural traits, and that racial characteristics make some groups superior.[11] By separating people into hierarchies based upon their race, it has been argued that unequal treatment among the different groups of people is just and fair due to their genetic differences.[11] Racism can occur amongst any group that can be identified based upon physical features or even characteristics of their culture.[11] Though people may be lumped together and called a specific race, everyone does not fit neatly into such categories, making it hard to define and describe a race accurately That is teh different from stereotype which is a generalization. Japanese people are polite. That is a generalization. If it becomes a popular belief it becomes a stereotype. It is in no way racist. There is nothing wrong with thinking a culture is polite. There is no racism there. You are just so caught up in race that if someone even talks about a race in any way you think its racism. That must be a very sad system of beliefs. |
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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice. all stereotypes have negative feelings, because they IMPLY through exclusion that OTHER groups dont have a particular skill, trait, characteristic that the stereotyped group has,,, I didnt take a legal definition that was straight from miriam webster what is a 'wrong' definition,,by the way? we can just agree to disagree, one having a very general definition of racism the other having a definition that has more 'prerequisites' All stereotypes have negative feelings? How does asians like noodles have a negative feeling? A stereotype is a popular belief about specific types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of people based on some prior assumptions. Another name for stereotyping is bias. A bias is a tendency, most of these are good, but sometimes stereotyping can turn into discrimination if we misinterpret a bias and act upon it in a negative manner a stereotype is also a PREJUDGEMENT,,,or a prejudice if based in race, its RACIST,,, Again that is the wrong definition. You are using prejudice as a synonym for bias which is not racism. Its like if I say pine but as defined as the verb to grieve but then try to say its a tree. Or that a tree is an emotion. Racism is defined as “the belief that races exist, that physical characteristics determine cultural traits, and that racial characteristics make some groups superior.[11] By separating people into hierarchies based upon their race, it has been argued that unequal treatment among the different groups of people is just and fair due to their genetic differences.[11] Racism can occur amongst any group that can be identified based upon physical features or even characteristics of their culture.[11] Though people may be lumped together and called a specific race, everyone does not fit neatly into such categories, making it hard to define and describe a race accurately That is teh different from stereotype which is a generalization. Japanese people are polite. That is a generalization. If it becomes a popular belief it becomes a stereotype. It is in no way racist. There is nothing wrong with thinking a culture is polite. There is no racism there. You are just so caught up in race that if someone even talks about a race in any way you think its racism. That must be a very sad system of beliefs. that is yet another definition, that allows fewer people to have to feel racist I start closer to the root 'the belief that races exist, that physical characteristics determine cultural traits' the former is pretty much a given in any statement about a 'race' the latter is apparent in assigning a trait to the race,,,, |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBRwiuJ8K7w&feature=player_detailpage Although I am not a fan of youtube most of the time this makes me proud of some of our young people. |
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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice. all stereotypes have negative feelings, because they IMPLY through exclusion that OTHER groups dont have a particular skill, trait, characteristic that the stereotyped group has,,, I didnt take a legal definition that was straight from miriam webster what is a 'wrong' definition,,by the way? we can just agree to disagree, one having a very general definition of racism the other having a definition that has more 'prerequisites' All stereotypes have negative feelings? How does asians like noodles have a negative feeling? A stereotype is a popular belief about specific types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of people based on some prior assumptions. Another name for stereotyping is bias. A bias is a tendency, most of these are good, but sometimes stereotyping can turn into discrimination if we misinterpret a bias and act upon it in a negative manner a stereotype is also a PREJUDGEMENT,,,or a prejudice if based in race, its RACIST,,, Again that is the wrong definition. You are using prejudice as a synonym for bias which is not racism. Its like if I say pine but as defined as the verb to grieve but then try to say its a tree. Or that a tree is an emotion. Racism is defined as “the belief that races exist, that physical characteristics determine cultural traits, and that racial characteristics make some groups superior.[11] By separating people into hierarchies based upon their race, it has been argued that unequal treatment among the different groups of people is just and fair due to their genetic differences.[11] Racism can occur amongst any group that can be identified based upon physical features or even characteristics of their culture.[11] Though people may be lumped together and called a specific race, everyone does not fit neatly into such categories, making it hard to define and describe a race accurately That is teh different from stereotype which is a generalization. Japanese people are polite. That is a generalization. If it becomes a popular belief it becomes a stereotype. It is in no way racist. There is nothing wrong with thinking a culture is polite. There is no racism there. You are just so caught up in race that if someone even talks about a race in any way you think its racism. That must be a very sad system of beliefs. that is yet another definition, that allows fewer people to have to feel racist I start closer to the root 'the belief that races exist, that physical characteristics determine cultural traits' the former is pretty much a given in any statement about a 'race' the latter is apparent in assigning a trait to the race,,,, It has an and.. its inclusive. You just cant cut it out. I mean pretty much science has proven race exists and the reason we are different is because we had different environments and our bodies adapted. People from Africa have darker skin to protect them from the sun for example. Those differences effected how they lived, found food, etc which lead to their culture. The part that makes it racism is the superiority. You are just trying to make it fit your definition and are ignoring the true meaning of the word. For some reason you wish to see more hate in the world than there really is and I don't know why. |
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Nice try with the wrong definition of prejudice on that one. You basically took the legal prejudice definition. A stereotype with no negative feelings is not racist. It required superiority or prejudice as I a unjustified hatred to be racist. Even if you win stereotype it says people confuse stereotype with prejudice and without the negative connotation it isn't prejudice. all stereotypes have negative feelings, because they IMPLY through exclusion that OTHER groups dont have a particular skill, trait, characteristic that the stereotyped group has,,, I didnt take a legal definition that was straight from miriam webster what is a 'wrong' definition,,by the way? we can just agree to disagree, one having a very general definition of racism the other having a definition that has more 'prerequisites' All stereotypes have negative feelings? How does asians like noodles have a negative feeling? A stereotype is a popular belief about specific types of individuals. The concepts of "stereotype" and "prejudice" are often confused with many other different meanings. Stereotypes are standardized and simplified conceptions of people based on some prior assumptions. Another name for stereotyping is bias. A bias is a tendency, most of these are good, but sometimes stereotyping can turn into discrimination if we misinterpret a bias and act upon it in a negative manner a stereotype is also a PREJUDGEMENT,,,or a prejudice if based in race, its RACIST,,, Again that is the wrong definition. You are using prejudice as a synonym for bias which is not racism. Its like if I say pine but as defined as the verb to grieve but then try to say its a tree. Or that a tree is an emotion. Racism is defined as “the belief that races exist, that physical characteristics determine cultural traits, and that racial characteristics make some groups superior.[11] By separating people into hierarchies based upon their race, it has been argued that unequal treatment among the different groups of people is just and fair due to their genetic differences.[11] Racism can occur amongst any group that can be identified based upon physical features or even characteristics of their culture.[11] Though people may be lumped together and called a specific race, everyone does not fit neatly into such categories, making it hard to define and describe a race accurately That is teh different from stereotype which is a generalization. Japanese people are polite. That is a generalization. If it becomes a popular belief it becomes a stereotype. It is in no way racist. There is nothing wrong with thinking a culture is polite. There is no racism there. You are just so caught up in race that if someone even talks about a race in any way you think its racism. That must be a very sad system of beliefs. that is yet another definition, that allows fewer people to have to feel racist I start closer to the root 'the belief that races exist, that physical characteristics determine cultural traits' the former is pretty much a given in any statement about a 'race' the latter is apparent in assigning a trait to the race,,,, It has an and.. its inclusive. You just cant cut it out. I mean pretty much science has proven race exists and the reason we are different is because we had different environments and our bodies adapted. People from Africa have darker skin to protect them from the sun for example. Those differences effected how they lived, found food, etc which lead to their culture. The part that makes it racism is the superiority. You are just trying to make it fit your definition and are ignoring the true meaning of the word. For some reason you wish to see more hate in the world than there really is and I don't know why. thats another misconception,, that racism is always and must always be about hatred,,,, |
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