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Topic: It’s not you, it’s me..
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Mon 04/02/12 04:14 PM
Of course it's them...duh.

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Mon 04/02/12 04:21 PM

I guess my question is...are you aware of your issues? Do you feel that it really is ‘them’ and not ‘you’? Or don’t you date enough to really know?


I think most people perceive me as having enough "negatives" to where they wouldn't want to get involved.

And I do have some negatives, insofar as the standard methodologies are concerned. I don't see them as negatives myself, I see them as rational guidelines, but that's just me.

Women seem to be more focused on those negatives; they clearly outweigh things like however intelligent or creative or understanding or humorous I am.

That's life.




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Mon 04/02/12 04:32 PM

Of course it's them...duh.


Obviously. Next obvious answer for $400, Alex?

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Mon 04/02/12 04:36 PM
This one is easy and it applies to incompatabilities across the board...internet, physical relationships, work...

The one fact that people absolutely refuse to acknowledge....


In all of your failed relationships...there is one common denominator.....you.

I generally leave it as an unspoken thought but, I have thrown that one in more than one persons face. (when they won't quit b!tchen and whining about an endless string of failures)

But...this is America....accepting any form of personal responsiblty ain't very high on the "to do" list.


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Mon 04/02/12 04:39 PM

This one is easy and it applies to incompatabilities across the board...internet, physical relationships, work...

The one fact that people absolutely refuse to acknowledge....


In all of your failed relationships...there is one common denominator.....you.

I generally leave it as an unspoken thought but, I have thrown that one in more than one persons face. (when they won't quit b!tchen and whining about an endless string of failures)

But...this is America....accepting any form of personal responsiblty ain't very high on the "to do" list.




Im actually just kidding. I have notoriously crappy taste in guys. I'm aware of it, yet I keep picking the same guy in different bodies. So I can't really expect them to behave any differently than they do. Lol

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Mon 04/02/12 04:42 PM
I was just speaking in generally Babydoll.

Personally, I am thrilled my woman has horrible taste in men...otherwise it would still be just me and my hand.

:)

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Thu 04/05/12 12:22 PM


I guess my question is...are you aware of your issues? Do you feel that it really is ‘them’ and not ‘you’? Or don’t you date enough to really know?


I think most people perceive me as having enough "negatives" to where they wouldn't want to get involved.

And I do have some negatives, insofar as the standard methodologies are concerned. I don't see them as negatives myself, I see them as rational guidelines, but that's just me.

Women seem to be more focused on those negatives; they clearly outweigh things like however intelligent or creative or understanding or humorous I am.

That's life.



You didn't answer the question Lex.

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Thu 04/05/12 12:24 PM



I guess my question is...are you aware of your issues? Do you feel that it really is ‘them’ and not ‘you’? Or don’t you date enough to really know?


I think most people perceive me as having enough "negatives" to where they wouldn't want to get involved.

And I do have some negatives, insofar as the standard methodologies are concerned. I don't see them as negatives myself, I see them as rational guidelines, but that's just me.

Women seem to be more focused on those negatives; they clearly outweigh things like however intelligent or creative or understanding or humorous I am.

That's life.



You didn't answer the question Lex.


I'm a rebel.


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Thu 04/05/12 12:24 PM

This one is easy and it applies to incompatabilities across the board...internet, physical relationships, work...

The one fact that people absolutely refuse to acknowledge....


In all of your failed relationships...there is one common denominator.....you.

I generally leave it as an unspoken thought but, I have thrown that one in more than one persons face. (when they won't quit b!tchen and whining about an endless string of failures)

But...this is America....accepting any form of personal responsiblty ain't very high on the "to do" list.



This is true but not many people a)realise that they are the common demoninator and b)take the time to figure out what is it about them that is making their relationship(s) fail.

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Thu 04/05/12 12:25 PM




I guess my question is...are you aware of your issues? Do you feel that it really is ‘them’ and not ‘you’? Or don’t you date enough to really know?


I think most people perceive me as having enough "negatives" to where they wouldn't want to get involved.

And I do have some negatives, insofar as the standard methodologies are concerned. I don't see them as negatives myself, I see them as rational guidelines, but that's just me.

Women seem to be more focused on those negatives; they clearly outweigh things like however intelligent or creative or understanding or humorous I am.

That's life.



You didn't answer the question Lex.


I'm a rebel.



Now there'a an answer I wasn't expecting :tongue: laugh

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Thu 04/05/12 12:36 PM





I guess my question is...are you aware of your issues? Do you feel that it really is ‘them’ and not ‘you’? Or don’t you date enough to really know?


I think most people perceive me as having enough "negatives" to where they wouldn't want to get involved.

And I do have some negatives, insofar as the standard methodologies are concerned. I don't see them as negatives myself, I see them as rational guidelines, but that's just me.

Women seem to be more focused on those negatives; they clearly outweigh things like however intelligent or creative or understanding or humorous I am.

That's life.



You didn't answer the question Lex.


I'm a rebel.



Now there'a an answer I wasn't expecting :tongue: laugh


See? That proves it.

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Thu 04/05/12 12:53 PM
Proves what? That you can recognise sarcasm in print Lex? Funnily enough, I'm not all that surprised :smile:

I don't think negatively about you or the comments that you have posted since I've been on here...I have always appreciated honestly (or what I perceive to be honesty) even if it bucks the trend.

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Thu 04/05/12 01:00 PM

Proves what? That you can recognise sarcasm in print Lex? Funnily enough, I'm not all that surprised :smile:

I don't think negatively about you or the comments that you have posted since I've been on here...I have always appreciated honestly (or what I perceive to be honesty) even if it bucks the trend.



I think "bucks the trend" is the operative phrase here.

Some people just seem to be really uncomfortable when someone says anything that doesn't fit in with the standard-response model. I don't think the standard-response model gets anybody anywhere (other than into an unending cycle of more standard-response model verbogarbage) and I prefer not to see it as a legitimate form of communication.

But -- and this gets back to the point I was trying to make earlier --if you don't play that game, some people see it as a negative.

On another note, yes, I'm aware of my issues, the "me or them" thing is largely irrelevant unless/until I run across somebody I might actually be interested in, and, no, I don't really date enough to really know, assuming "zero" qualifies as "not enough."


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Thu 04/05/12 01:39 PM


Proves what? That you can recognise sarcasm in print Lex? Funnily enough, I'm not all that surprised :smile:

I don't think negatively about you or the comments that you have posted since I've been on here...I have always appreciated honestly (or what I perceive to be honesty) even if it bucks the trend.



I think "bucks the trend" is the operative phrase here.

Some people just seem to be really uncomfortable when someone says anything that doesn't fit in with the standard-response model. I don't think the standard-response model gets anybody anywhere (other than into an unending cycle of more standard-response model verbogarbage) and I prefer not to see it as a legitimate form of communication.

But -- and this gets back to the point I was trying to make earlier --if you don't play that game, some people see it as a negative.

On another note, yes, I'm aware of my issues, the "me or them" thing is largely irrelevant unless/until I run across somebody I might actually be interested in, and, no, I don't really date enough to really know, assuming "zero" qualifies as "not enough."



I hear where you’re coming from because who I am doesn’t quite fit the mould either.

I agree that some people do feel more comfortable with pigeonholing people and take it personally when they realise that they've put a square peg into a round hole.

I find it strange (especially with people that I have never met), that they hold me responsible for their perception when they are the ones that haven't taken the time to do anything other than 'read' the surface veneer.

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Thu 04/05/12 02:14 PM

I find it strange (especially with people that I have never met), that they hold me responsible for their perception when they are the ones that haven't taken the time to do anything other than 'read' the surface veneer.


Well, I use that as an indicator as to whether or not they're someone I want to deal with. The ones who refuse (or who are unable) to see beneath the surface generally aren't going to be people I'm likely to click with....


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Thu 04/05/12 02:33 PM
I always blamed myself until recently, then I realized that the only thing I was guilty of was being myself, So if that was not good enough for them too darn bad! I am who I am ,I have faults ,so do they .I have good points and so did they.
But funny thing looking back at the men that "Dumped" me they have never held a relationship for more than five mins. So thats when I stop blaming myself totally and realized that I am not always too blame.

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Thu 04/05/12 03:07 PM

I always blamed myself until recently, then I realized that the only thing I was guilty of was being myself, So if that was not good enough for them too darn bad! I am who I am ,I have faults ,so do they .I have good points and so did they.
But funny thing looking back at the men that "Dumped" me they have never held a relationship for more than five mins. So thats when I stop blaming myself totally and realized that I am not always too blame.



I think you've hit the nail on the head Betty.

You're right, as much as you may want to change to attract a 'mate', you can't change who you are fundamentally...the bits that make you who you are...

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Thu 04/05/12 03:49 PM
I have so many issues that I think they are starting to mutate.

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Thu 04/05/12 07:01 PM
Just after our A.A. meeting one of my friends told me that I would fit in nicely and I told him that of course I would because I am the missing link.happy laugh

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Thu 04/05/12 07:53 PM
I don't look for blame anymore because it is a dead end and doesn't help in self discovery and resolution.

So "is it me or them" is irrelevant.

I look inwards first. I have chosen men whose life path was completely different from mine and they were the bringer of lessons for me to learn about myself.

I am still learning.

I am hoping to find a companion to share the joys of life with but I am okay without them.

It took me a long time to REALLY get to this point in life, I used to say the words but there was no base behind them other than trying to sound strong.

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