Cowboy, it doesn't so much have to be a lie, it can simply mean it doesn't have to be taken literally.

Well yeah, now that you mention it though. Names had meanings behind them.

Not ment as a joke, but like those old like indian names "RunningBull" and what not. The names people gave/received had more then just a "title" as simple as Joe, Bob, ect.

That and since Adam was the first "human".

But then that still plays into our culture. Words change meaning through time and what not, that still doesn't account for why "human" wasn't used into of "Adam". Because if it translated it that far, why wouldn't they go all the way?

And if it was meaning "human" and wasn't just a title, eve's title also would be adam for she to was a "human". And then this plays also into the many verses where God has said "Ye are Gods". Even all the way back in psalms... not sure if there's any in genesis, will be an interesting search.

Adam is the first human ( man )...

and Eve is formed out of the rib of the first human (man) and

is called WOman...cause she is formed out of man's rib and is

also formed with a womb ....



human being:

a member of any of the races of Homo sapiens; person; MAN, WOMAN, or

CHILD



"What are human beings that you are mindful of them, mortals that

you care for them?" (Psalm 8:4)


"What is man that thou art mindful of them, mortals that

you care for them?" (Psalm 8:4)



Human being is MAN....

But this could also mean where "born again" comes into play. Because I find this verse interesting. Die LIKE men. That would insinuate we are something else, or atleast more then just men, a man.


Psalm 82:7

7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes

Eve is formed from the human's angular organ. An angular organ is what the Hebrews called a womb, hence WOMB-man.

What translation is the "Human" verse you supplied? I'm assuming one of the newer translations eg., New King James, New international, ect. Cause when things are translated over and over it looses it's direct meaning and is influenced by what the translater believes it to mean rather then just flat out what exactly it's saying.

Interesting.

This will also help with why using "womb" would be technically true. One of the definitions of womb is as followed.

A place where something is generated

Eve was made "generated" out of Adam's side, thus would be called a "womb".

Peter_pan..The RIB CAGE is an angular organ..the

womb has NO angles whatsoever.


ALSO....IF woman was formed from man's WOMB (instead of man's

ribcage or side of man), then ALL man would STILL have a

WOMB ....simply because the womb would then have grown back in

all men that were born after adam...

but man does NOT have a womb,and never ever HAD a womb.


Woman was formed from the SIDE (RIB OR RIBCAGE) of

man ,signifying her EQUALITY with man.....


woman was not made from THE head of man (to be OVER man), nor the

feet of man( to be Beneath man)..but GOD purposely formed

woman from the SIDE (RIB or RIBCAGE)) of man.....so she and man

would walk EQUALLY SIDE BY SIDE thru life.

Womb is still an accurate title of what Eve was made from.

Womb - A place where something is generated

And both of your guys' statements can be true. God used Adam's rib as a womb, eg., the place where she was "generated".

Psalm 8:3, Psalm 8:4 NIV (NIV)


3 When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon

and the stars, which you have set in place, 4 what is MANKIND that

you are mindful of them, HUMAN BENGS that you care for them?

Yep it is a newer version of the scriptures you're using. I'm assuming NIV = New International Version.

KJV

3When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;

4What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?

Compare your newer version with an older version such as KJV.

Verse 4 for specifics here.
One says "that thou visitest him".
The other "that you care for them"

Yeah it's not a big thing, but multiple "alterations" such as this can change the meaning of an entire message on a large scale.

man...mankind.....


son of man.......all human beings that are the offspring of

the first man


same difference......

Are you a man???

yes

no


Are you a human being ??


yes


no



Do you see now that man is a human being??

yes


no

Please, I truly feel you think I am arguing with you and or trying to make you look like you don't know what you're talking about. That is NOT what is going on. Reason I said this, because my response to the verse you used had nothing to do specifically with "human beings, mankind, ect"

It was in the difference of -
One says "that thou visitest him".
The other "that you care for them"

Again, yeah this is a tiny difference here. But with many differences such as this throughout the entire scriptures, it could change some meaning.

Only in secular terms and to this world am I a human being. I am a man, because that is my gender. But I am a child of God. Call that Human if you wish.

So to answer your question in the way you presented it.


Are you a man???

yes



Are you a human being ??




no