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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 2
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 03/24/12 12:06 PM
then stick to an omnipresent God and not analogies it was about having pride in Heaven...not being a framer on Earth wrong wasnt about either it was to me

MonkeyBite Joined Sat 03/24/12 Posts: 146	Sat 03/24/12 12:07 PM
then stick to an omnipresent God and not analogies it was about having pride in Heaven...not being a framer on Earth wrong wasnt about either it was to me then u should ask ur question relevant to the answer u seek to find

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/24/12 12:07 PM
try using Baal instead of a Framer fine baal can have his presence felt everywhere if he builds an entire village, but u'll only feel/know his presence the strongest once you are inside his own abode better? will Baal build it in Heaven...since that is what the debate is about Baal will build nothing in Heaven. Baal is a Christian demon. According to Christian demonology, Baal was ranked as the first and principal king in Hell, ruling over the East. According to some authors Baal is a Duke, with sixty-six legions of demons under his command. The term "Baal" is used in various ways in the Old Testament, with the usual meaning of master, or owner right..so don't use Baal or a framer to prove if God is omnipresent or not.... Well first, no one used a framer to prove if God was omnipresent.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 03/24/12 12:09 PM
then stick to an omnipresent God and not analogies it was about having pride in Heaven...not being a framer on Earth wrong wasnt about either it was to me then u should ask ur question relevant to the answer u seek to find I did..but you took it off point with that framer business

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 03/24/12 12:10 PM
try using Baal instead of a Framer fine baal can have his presence felt everywhere if he builds an entire village, but u'll only feel/know his presence the strongest once you are inside his own abode better? will Baal build it in Heaven...since that is what the debate is about Baal will build nothing in Heaven. Baal is a Christian demon. According to Christian demonology, Baal was ranked as the first and principal king in Hell, ruling over the East. According to some authors Baal is a Duke, with sixty-six legions of demons under his command. The term "Baal" is used in various ways in the Old Testament, with the usual meaning of master, or owner right..so don't use Baal or a framer to prove if God is omnipresent or not.... Well first, no one used a framer to prove if God was omnipresent. was a framer being used because God was a framer? ....perhaps he framed Satan

MonkeyBite Joined Sat 03/24/12 Posts: 146	Sat 03/24/12 12:12 PM
funches said: Satan was a Being of Heaven...so it's not about where the pride took place...it's about whether those of Heaven can have pride but that had everything to do with the "answer" u had previously thought was truth, but in fact, was wrong pride in heaven exists, yes sin, however, does not all sin took place on earth eg the further from God-- location has everything to do with the answer becuz without locale, u cannot separate two entirely different locales which ultimately makes ur entire question irrelevant as it states "there is God, there is no heaven". right

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/24/12 12:12 PM
try using Baal instead of a Framer fine baal can have his presence felt everywhere if he builds an entire village, but u'll only feel/know his presence the strongest once you are inside his own abode better? will Baal build it in Heaven...since that is what the debate is about Baal will build nothing in Heaven. Baal is a Christian demon. According to Christian demonology, Baal was ranked as the first and principal king in Hell, ruling over the East. According to some authors Baal is a Duke, with sixty-six legions of demons under his command. The term "Baal" is used in various ways in the Old Testament, with the usual meaning of master, or owner right..so don't use Baal or a framer to prove if God is omnipresent or not.... Well first, no one used a framer to prove if God was omnipresent. was a framer being used because God was a framer? ....perhaps he framed Satan No "framer" had no direct relation to God. "Framer" was being used to explain a word and it's meaning, not God.

MonkeyBite Joined Sat 03/24/12 Posts: 146	Sat 03/24/12 12:13 PM
then stick to an omnipresent God and not analogies it was about having pride in Heaven...not being a framer on Earth wrong wasnt about either it was to me then u should ask ur question relevant to the answer u seek to find I did..but you took it off point with that framer business no u didnt no i didnt

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 03/24/12 12:13 PM
but anyway....exactly what will you guys be doing up there in Heaven...that proves that you have "Free Will" but no Pride

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/24/12 12:15 PM
funches said: Satan was a Being of Heaven...so it's not about where the pride took place...it's about whether those of Heaven can have pride but that had everything to do with the "answer" u had previously thought was truth, but in fact, was wrong pride in heaven exists, yes sin, however, does not all sin took place on earth eg the further from God-- location has everything to do with the answer becuz without locale, u cannot separate two entirely different locales which ultimately makes ur entire question irrelevant as it states "there is God, there is no heaven". right And yes even further then that, there is a POSSIBILITY of sinning in Heaven. Sin is purely going against God's will. There is still that possibility in Heaven for we still have free will. But that is why Heaven is only rewarded to those that deserve it and will not sin in Heaven.

MonkeyBite Joined Sat 03/24/12 Posts: 146	Sat 03/24/12 12:16 PM
was a framer being used because God was a framer? ....perhaps he framed Satan ur so boring fine last time "is god omnipresent?" yes he is "in" everything, just like a framer created the entire village, god created the entire planet "can pride exist in heaven?" yes such is not a sin if restrained no sin takes place in heaven, only outside it "whats to stop u from sinning in heaven if u cant on earth?" again, remember how i said LOCATION is everything? i answered ur questions that is all

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/24/12 12:16 PM
but anyway....exactly what will you guys be doing up there in Heaven...that proves that you have "Free Will" but no Pride We will be serving our Lord and praising God, with our FREE WILL, because we CHOOSE to, because we DESIRE to. Any explicit detail can not be given, for we have never lived in Heaven. And the scriptures do not speak of God's pin ball machines.

MonkeyBite Joined Sat 03/24/12 Posts: 146	Sat 03/24/12 12:17 PM
but anyway....exactly what will you guys be doing up there in Heaven...that proves that you have "Free Will" but no Pride pride isnt always a sin i dont know where u got that havin too much, misdirecting, yes pride in being next to the father and son i'll be tryin to earn my wings while discussin mortal life with past relatives and friends

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/24/12 12:19 PM
was a framer being used because God was a framer? ....perhaps he framed Satan ur so boring fine last time "is god omnipresent?" yes he is "in" everything, just like a framer created the entire village, god created the entire planet "can pride exist in heaven?" yes such is not a sin if restrained no sin takes place in heaven, only outside it "whats to stop u from sinning in heaven if u cant on earth?" again, remember how i said LOCATION is everything? i answered ur questions that is all yes such is not a sin if restrained no sin takes place in heaven, only outside it Exactly, Satan wasn't necassarily kicked out for merely having the pride. He wasn't kicked out until he started to put action behind that pride, started to proclaim to be greater then God.

MonkeyBite Joined Sat 03/24/12 Posts: 146	Sat 03/24/12 12:19 PM
And yes even further then that, there is a POSSIBILITY of sinning in Heaven. Sin is purely going against God's will. There is still that possibility in Heaven for we still have free will. But that is why Heaven is only rewarded to those that deserve it and will not sin in Heaven. possible, yes happens, no why? bold print holla

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 03/24/12 12:19 PM
was a framer being used because God was a framer? ....perhaps he framed Satan ur so boring fine last time "is god omnipresent?" yes he is "in" everything, just like a framer created the entire village, god created the entire planet a framer is not an omnipresent God.....so give it a rest

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/24/12 12:20 PM
but anyway....exactly what will you guys be doing up there in Heaven...that proves that you have "Free Will" but no Pride pride isnt always a sin i dont know where u got that havin too much, misdirecting, yes pride in being next to the father and son i'll be tryin to earn my wings while discussin mortal life with past relatives and friends Exactly, the pride itself wasn't wrong/sinful. The actions that we brought forth from that emotion is what was wrong/sinful.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/24/12 12:21 PM
was a framer being used because God was a framer? ....perhaps he framed Satan ur so boring fine last time "is god omnipresent?" yes he is "in" everything, just like a framer created the entire village, god created the entire planet a framer is not an omnipresent God.....so give it a rest Again, he never said a framer was.

MonkeyBite Joined Sat 03/24/12 Posts: 146	Sat 03/24/12 12:21 PM
a framer is not an omnipresent God.....so give it a rest yeah, ur right already made my point and for the what? 20th time i didnt call/make a framer a god

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 03/24/12 12:23 PM
We will be serving our Lord and praising God, with our FREE WILL, because we CHOOSE to, because we DESIRE to. Cowboy....serving your Lord...doing what? ...