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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 2
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Sat 03/10/12 12:25 PM





1. **** you. Cause you know nothing.
2. Stop assuming, because again, you know nothing.
3. And no, I hate Florida.

You can't possibly "believe" you can tell me what to do?

The fact that he's 10 times the man you are, proves I'm raising him beyond perfectly; God would be jealous. xD


you hate Florida but yet send your son there so that he can be raised by those other than you ...also I'm not telling you what to do...I'm telling you what you should be doing ....


..Sent my son there? lol

This is what you are telling me:

1. Give up my house, settle, if I'm lucky, for an apartment that might cost 2-3 times as much to be "closer".
2. Give up my job, and hope I can find one down in a city I despise.
3. Give up everything I've worked hard on, up here, like his mother; completely restarted.
4. Feel like ****** for doing so, since she is moving back up here when she graduates Jan. 2013..

GREAT advice. xD


do you believe that people have the "right to believe" they can have children and not be willing to give up everything for them ..and then inject this ideology into soceity


Not if the "idea" of "giving up" results in more loss than gain.

If I took your advice, I'd have to take up two jobs just to amount to what I make now. Why?

I'd need a full time job just to make up for the loss of the band.

That full time job would cut into my web design and result in less clients.

This would require me to take a second job to make ends meet.

Thus, there is far more to lose than to gain.

Because now I'd have no time for him, because it'd be spent working and sleeping.

Furthermore, I "inject" no ideology on society.
I only try to teach my son, not the whole of society.

Even if I wanted to spread my ideology, it would still be the one "listening" that would be held accountable for his/her own actions, and ultimately the one responsible for doing so.

If I told Peter Pan I believed God and God said we should murder all Trolls.

Then he goes and stabs you 76 times with a kitchen knife.

He would/should be held responsible for his own actions.

Should I be held accountable because it was my "belief"?

No, I said troll, not Funches.

Who is to say I didn't mean "trolls" literally?

It was his choice to "perceive" my words and act on them as he saw fit because such was his "belief".

Such was not what I asked nor said.

Maybe Peter, in said case, thought I spoke of an actual God and wasn't just making a Skyrim V reference.




I would laugh directly in your face and tell you how stupid you are.

Then I would keep laughing and I'd make sure everyone knew why.


Squished....



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Sat 03/10/12 12:28 PM




I would laugh directly in your face and tell you how stupid you are.

Then I would keep laughing and I'd make sure everyone knew why.


Squished....





One would hope, lmao. xD

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Sat 03/10/12 12:31 PM





I would laugh directly in your face and tell you how stupid you are.

Then I would keep laughing and I'd make sure everyone knew why.


Squished....





One would hope, lmao. xD



Oh yeah, and "soliciting" IS a crime...



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Sat 03/10/12 12:32 PM



2. Give up my job, and hope I can find one down in a city I despise.


didn't you say that you worked Online? .....so they no longer have the Internet in Florida?


Again, illiterate.

I said I also work with a band, here, where I'm at.


jeez....so now a band is more important that your child...most bands can't even bring in mimimum wage ...so can you supply a link to their facebook page or their website or a youtube video....er...if they even have one

I bet the clone band in this video I made is better than your band ...if they are...then you need to leave them along and go to your son

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_62UNPfDn74


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Sat 03/10/12 12:39 PM


jeez....so now a band is more important that your child...most bands can't even bring in mimimum wage ...so can you supply a link to their facebook page or their website or a youtube video....er...if they even have one

I bet the clone band in this video I made is better than your band ...if they are...then you need to leave them along and go to your son

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_62UNPfDn74



LOL

That song was ...different. -.-

..the video looked like Halo had intercourse with the original Sims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUepmbGC7zQ
DeXperience (DXP)
"Tempted" Official Music Video.
Just internationally released.

Just had a huge celebration party at Starters Riverport.

Minimum wage maybe for you.
xD

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Sat 03/10/12 12:43 PM
Alright, it's been fun.

Son's home from school.

Later. xD

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Sat 03/10/12 12:44 PM

its idiocy to 'give up everything' for children

its an oxymoron, because children have needs, that cant be met with a parent who has given up
'everything'


parents have a delicate balance of providing and loving, and its not always about physical proximity,,,,,the debate has gone far off topic and gotten quite ridiculous,,,


MsHarmony...some believe that both parent if reasonably possible should be in physical proximity with their children ...just because you disagree doesn't mean that a debate should be deem off topic

the thread is about the right to believe....and how belief effects society ...

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Sat 03/10/12 12:50 PM


its idiocy to 'give up everything' for children

its an oxymoron, because children have needs, that cant be met with a parent who has given up
'everything'


parents have a delicate balance of providing and loving, and its not always about physical proximity,,,,,the debate has gone far off topic and gotten quite ridiculous,,,


MsHarmony...some believe that both parent if reasonably possible should be in physical proximity with their children ...just because you disagree doesn't mean that a debate should be deem off topic

the thread is about the right to believe....and how belief effects society ...



there is no debate about someones 'right' to a belief

in a religion forum, it is pre supposed that the topic is about RELIGION,,ie religious beliefs,,,

whats being discussed is peoples personal choices on what and where their childrens interests are best served


perhaps it should be in a general discussion thread,,,,?

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Sat 03/10/12 12:54 PM



jeez....so now a band is more important that your child...most bands can't even bring in mimimum wage ...so can you supply a link to their facebook page or their website or a youtube video....er...if they even have one

I bet the clone band in this video I made is better than your band ...if they are...then you need to leave them along and go to your son

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_62UNPfDn74



LOL

That song was ...different. -.-

..the video looked like Halo had intercourse with the original Sims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUepmbGC7zQ
DeXperience (DXP)
"Tempted" Official Music Video.
Just internationally released.

Just had a huge celebration party at Starters Riverport.

Minimum wage maybe for you.
xD


that's industrial music with a voice sync ...probably not even them singing ....also I get lots of videos from people that faked like they created it.....

that's why I asked for the website or the facebook page with your credits on it

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Sat 03/10/12 01:00 PM



its idiocy to 'give up everything' for children

its an oxymoron, because children have needs, that cant be met with a parent who has given up
'everything'


parents have a delicate balance of providing and loving, and its not always about physical proximity,,,,,the debate has gone far off topic and gotten quite ridiculous,,,


MsHarmony...some believe that both parent if reasonably possible should be in physical proximity with their children ...just because you disagree doesn't mean that a debate should be deem off topic

the thread is about the right to believe....and how belief effects society ...



there is no debate about someones 'right' to a belief

in a religion forum, it is pre supposed that the topic is about RELIGION,,ie religious beliefs,,,

whats being discussed is peoples personal choices on what and where their childrens interests are best served


perhaps it should be in a general discussion thread,,,,?



the thread is about the "right to believe" and injecting the ideology into society.....it's not about only what MsHarmony believes

msharmony's photo
Sat 03/10/12 01:02 PM




its idiocy to 'give up everything' for children

its an oxymoron, because children have needs, that cant be met with a parent who has given up
'everything'


parents have a delicate balance of providing and loving, and its not always about physical proximity,,,,,the debate has gone far off topic and gotten quite ridiculous,,,


MsHarmony...some believe that both parent if reasonably possible should be in physical proximity with their children ...just because you disagree doesn't mean that a debate should be deem off topic

the thread is about the right to believe....and how belief effects society ...



there is no debate about someones 'right' to a belief

in a religion forum, it is pre supposed that the topic is about RELIGION,,ie religious beliefs,,,

whats being discussed is peoples personal choices on what and where their childrens interests are best served


perhaps it should be in a general discussion thread,,,,?



the thread is about the "right to believe" and injecting the ideology into society.....it's not about only what MsHarmony believes



I Agree, its about believing in general, apparently

not believing as it applies to religion

,, so ,, maybe it should be in a GENERAL Forum and not a RELIGION forum,,,,,?

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Sat 03/10/12 01:05 PM
Edited by funches on Sat 03/10/12 01:07 PM





its idiocy to 'give up everything' for children

its an oxymoron, because children have needs, that cant be met with a parent who has given up
'everything'


parents have a delicate balance of providing and loving, and its not always about physical proximity,,,,,the debate has gone far off topic and gotten quite ridiculous,,,


MsHarmony...some believe that both parent if reasonably possible should be in physical proximity with their children ...just because you disagree doesn't mean that a debate should be deem off topic

the thread is about the right to believe....and how belief effects society ...



there is no debate about someones 'right' to a belief

in a religion forum, it is pre supposed that the topic is about RELIGION,,ie religious beliefs,,,

whats being discussed is peoples personal choices on what and where their childrens interests are best served


perhaps it should be in a general discussion thread,,,,?



the thread is about the "right to believe" and injecting the ideology into society.....it's not about only what MsHarmony believes



I Agree, its about believing in general, apparently

not believing as it applies to religion

,, so ,, maybe it should be in a GENERAL Forum and not a RELIGION forum,,,,,?


well since both the religious and non-religious have seen fit to post in it....it applies to both....if you have such a beef with it...simply stop entering into it...unless "you believe" that you have to ...or perhaps you can place it on topic

msharmony's photo
Sat 03/10/12 01:08 PM






its idiocy to 'give up everything' for children

its an oxymoron, because children have needs, that cant be met with a parent who has given up
'everything'


parents have a delicate balance of providing and loving, and its not always about physical proximity,,,,,the debate has gone far off topic and gotten quite ridiculous,,,


MsHarmony...some believe that both parent if reasonably possible should be in physical proximity with their children ...just because you disagree doesn't mean that a debate should be deem off topic

the thread is about the right to believe....and how belief effects society ...



there is no debate about someones 'right' to a belief

in a religion forum, it is pre supposed that the topic is about RELIGION,,ie religious beliefs,,,

whats being discussed is peoples personal choices on what and where their childrens interests are best served


perhaps it should be in a general discussion thread,,,,?



the thread is about the "right to believe" and injecting the ideology into society.....it's not about only what MsHarmony believes



I Agree, its about believing in general, apparently

not believing as it applies to religion

,, so ,, maybe it should be in a GENERAL Forum and not a RELIGION forum,,,,,?


well since both the religious and non-religious have seen fit to post in it....it applies to both....if you have such a beef with it...simply stop entering into it...unless "you believe" that you have to



well, religious and non religious people often post on religious topics....

but that has nothing to do with whether THIS topic belongs more in a religious thread or a general thread

if YOU have a beef with my opinion about it,, perhaps YOU should stop responding to me,,,,,lol

whats good for the goose,,,,laugh

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Sat 03/10/12 01:09 PM




jeez....so now a band is more important that your child...most bands can't even bring in mimimum wage ...so can you supply a link to their facebook page or their website or a youtube video....er...if they even have one

I bet the clone band in this video I made is better than your band ...if they are...then you need to leave them along and go to your son

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_62UNPfDn74



LOL

That song was ...different. -.-

..the video looked like Halo had intercourse with the original Sims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUepmbGC7zQ
DeXperience (DXP)
"Tempted" Official Music Video.
Just internationally released.

Just had a huge celebration party at Starters Riverport.

Minimum wage maybe for you.
xD


that's industrial music with a voice sync ...probably not even them singing ....also I get lots of videos from people that faked like they created it.....

that's why I asked for the website or the facebook page with your credits on it


I said I "help" the band, not I'm "in" the band. For one.
Two, it is their voices.

Three. Care that much look it up yourself.
They've got both.
I'm busy now.

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Sat 03/10/12 01:10 PM

well, religious and non religious people often post on religious topics....

but that has nothing to do with whether THIS topic belongs more in a religious thread or a general thread

if YOU have a beef with my opinion about it,, perhaps YOU should stop responding to me,,,,,lol

whats good for the goose,,,,laugh


MsHarmony...now it's you that is not on topic

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Sat 03/10/12 01:11 PM


whats good for the goose,,,,laugh



Makes the gander cry "stalker!".....




Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 03/10/12 01:11 PM






its idiocy to 'give up everything' for children

its an oxymoron, because children have needs, that cant be met with a parent who has given up
'everything'


parents have a delicate balance of providing and loving, and its not always about physical proximity,,,,,the debate has gone far off topic and gotten quite ridiculous,,,


MsHarmony...some believe that both parent if reasonably possible should be in physical proximity with their children ...just because you disagree doesn't mean that a debate should be deem off topic

the thread is about the right to believe....and how belief effects society ...



there is no debate about someones 'right' to a belief

in a religion forum, it is pre supposed that the topic is about RELIGION,,ie religious beliefs,,,

whats being discussed is peoples personal choices on what and where their childrens interests are best served


perhaps it should be in a general discussion thread,,,,?



the thread is about the "right to believe" and injecting the ideology into society.....it's not about only what MsHarmony believes



I Agree, its about believing in general, apparently

not believing as it applies to religion

,, so ,, maybe it should be in a GENERAL Forum and not a RELIGION forum,,,,,?


well since both the religious and non-religious have seen fit to post in it....it applies to both....if you have such a beef with it...simply stop entering into it...unless "you believe" that you have to ...or perhaps you can place it on topic


But the non-religious have stated such from a religious point of view. As in, it is the right for a person to "not" believe in God, just as equally as the right to believe in God.

..you made it personal.

Then compared religious belief to my personal beliefs.

So, nah, Harmony speaks in harmony. xD

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Sat 03/10/12 01:11 PM



whats good for the goose,,,,laugh



Makes the gander cry "stalker!".....






laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 03/10/12 01:27 PM





jeez....so now a band is more important that your child...most bands can't even bring in mimimum wage ...so can you supply a link to their facebook page or their website or a youtube video....er...if they even have one

I bet the clone band in this video I made is better than your band ...if they are...then you need to leave them along and go to your son

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_62UNPfDn74



LOL

That song was ...different. -.-

..the video looked like Halo had intercourse with the original Sims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUepmbGC7zQ
DeXperience (DXP)
"Tempted" Official Music Video.
Just internationally released.

Just had a huge celebration party at Starters Riverport.

Minimum wage maybe for you.
xD


that's industrial music with a voice sync ...probably not even them singing ....also I get lots of videos from people that faked like they created it.....

that's why I asked for the website or the facebook page with your credits on it


I said I "help" the band, not I'm "in" the band. For one.
Two, it is their voices.

Three. Care that much look it up yourself.
They've got both.
I'm busy now.


so now you only help the band but you are not in the band or managering the band or even have credits or your picture with the band....and this is what is keeping you from your son?....so in helping with the band... do you mean...bring them water?

do you have the "right to believe" this is in the best interest of a child ...

if you start "believing" that you should be in physical proximity with your son...then your ideology will change and you will do everything reasonable to make it happen ....


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Sat 03/10/12 01:31 PM

But the non-religious have stated such from a religious point of view. As in, it is the right for a person to "not" believe in God, just as equally as the right to believe in God.

..you made it personal.

Then compared religious belief to my personal beliefs.

So, nah, Harmony speaks in harmony. xD


MsHarmony is commanded to spread the word...and telling others they have a right to not believe in God is doing the work of Satan

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