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Topic: Spiritual awakening.
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Fri 03/16/12 11:11 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 03/16/12 11:12 AM
This thread is about the topic of spiritual awakening.

It is not about religion or dogma.




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Fri 03/16/12 11:20 AM





Has anyone experienced a spiritual awakening lately?


you mean has a ghost woke us up out of a slumber?

if not...can you give an example



An example is that you realize something that changes your way of looking at things or living your life.




how is that spiritual?


How is it not spiritual?


it is for those that found Jesus

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Fri 03/16/12 11:20 AM

This thread is about the topic of spiritual awakening.

It is not about religion or dogma.


you have yet to explain the difference

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Fri 03/16/12 11:23 AM


This thread is about the topic of spiritual awakening.

It is not about religion or dogma.


you have yet to explain the difference


You want me to explain the difference between spiritual awakening and religion or dogma?

Why?


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Fri 03/16/12 11:24 AM






Has anyone experienced a spiritual awakening lately?


you mean has a ghost woke us up out of a slumber?

if not...can you give an example



An example is that you realize something that changes your way of looking at things or living your life.




how is that spiritual?


How is it not spiritual?


it is for those that found Jesus




That is "religion."

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Fri 03/16/12 11:27 AM
Nobody really "finds Jesus" because Jesus does not exist. The term "I found Jesus" is an analogy. It does not mean that Jesus was missing and someone "found" him. It does not mean that they suddenly saw him walking down the street and went up to him and kissed his robe.

It simply means that they realized and accepted the religious notion of what "Jesus" stands for and have accepted the dogma attached to that religious notion.


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Fri 03/16/12 11:36 AM

Nobody really "finds Jesus" because Jesus does not exist. The term "I found Jesus" is an analogy. It does not mean that Jesus was missing and someone "found" him. It does not mean that they suddenly saw him walking down the street and went up to him and kissed his robe.

It simply means that they realized and accepted the religious notion of what "Jesus" stands for and have accepted the dogma attached to that religious notion.


but it could be referred to as a "Spiritual Awakening"

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Fri 03/16/12 11:37 AM


Nobody really "finds Jesus" because Jesus does not exist. The term "I found Jesus" is an analogy. It does not mean that Jesus was missing and someone "found" him. It does not mean that they suddenly saw him walking down the street and went up to him and kissed his robe.

It simply means that they realized and accepted the religious notion of what "Jesus" stands for and have accepted the dogma attached to that religious notion.


but it could be referred to as a "Spiritual Awakening"



Yes it could.

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Sat 03/17/12 05:51 AM



Nobody really "finds Jesus" because Jesus does not exist. The term "I found Jesus" is an analogy. It does not mean that Jesus was missing and someone "found" him. It does not mean that they suddenly saw him walking down the street and went up to him and kissed his robe.

It simply means that they realized and accepted the religious notion of what "Jesus" stands for and have accepted the dogma attached to that religious notion.


but it could be referred to as a "Spiritual Awakening"



Yes it could.


which is why Spirituality is slang for Religious

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Sat 03/17/12 08:37 AM




Nobody really "finds Jesus" because Jesus does not exist. The term "I found Jesus" is an analogy. It does not mean that Jesus was missing and someone "found" him. It does not mean that they suddenly saw him walking down the street and went up to him and kissed his robe.

It simply means that they realized and accepted the religious notion of what "Jesus" stands for and have accepted the dogma attached to that religious notion.


but it could be referred to as a "Spiritual Awakening"



Yes it could.


which is why Spirituality is slang for Religious


No, people study religions eg., religious. God is not about religion. God is about a relation, is about our spirituality. You can know ever word of the bible from front to back through out ones religious studies and at the same time not know God.

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Sat 03/17/12 09:51 AM


No, people study religions eg., religious. God is not about religion. God is about a relation, is about our spirituality. You can know ever word of the bible from front to back through out ones religious studies and at the same time not know God.


<---- Example A.

:P

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Sat 03/17/12 10:00 AM
Edited by funches on Sat 03/17/12 10:05 AM

God is not about religion.


Right God just make Commandments so that you don't follow them ...perhaps that's why people can't stop sinning







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Sat 03/17/12 10:04 AM






Nobody really "finds Jesus" because Jesus does not exist. The term "I found Jesus" is an analogy. It does not mean that Jesus was missing and someone "found" him. It does not mean that they suddenly saw him walking down the street and went up to him and kissed his robe.

It simply means that they realized and accepted the religious notion of what "Jesus" stands for and have accepted the dogma attached to that religious notion.


but it could be referred to as a "Spiritual Awakening"



Yes it could.


which is why Spirituality is slang for Religious


No, people study religions eg., religious. God is not about religion. God is about a relation, is about our spirituality. You can know ever word of the bible from front to back through out ones religious studies and at the same time not know God.


so Cowboy... religious people have no spirituality?.....perhaps you should think before you post


I have no idea if they have no spirituality, that is between them and God.

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Sat 03/17/12 10:07 AM

I have no idea if they have no spirituality, that is between them and God.


wouldn't that fact that it's between them and God means that they do have spirituality

that's why you can't have religion without having spirituality and vice versa

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Sat 03/17/12 10:12 AM


I have no idea if they have no spirituality, that is between them and God.


wouldn't that fact that it's between them and God means that they do have spirituality

that's why you can't have religion without having spirituality and vice versa


Not specifically, you're misunderstanding what I'm referring to, let me elaborate.

Say there is a Christian who is quite interested in general about the different beliefs around the world. How they came to be, who established them, what groups of people held close to those beliefs, ect.

This person has put there faith in Christianity, they are spiritually enlightened by this faith. They have not spiritually been attached to these religions they are merely "studying".

That is the difference between "religious" and "spiritual".

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Sat 03/17/12 10:17 AM



I have no idea if they have no spirituality, that is between them and God.


wouldn't that fact that it's between them and God means that they do have spirituality

that's why you can't have religion without having spirituality and vice versa


Not specifically, you're misunderstanding what I'm referring to, let me elaborate.

Say there is a Christian who is quite interested in general about the different beliefs around the world. How they came to be, who established them, what groups of people held close to those beliefs, ect.

This person has put there faith in Christianity, they are spiritually enlightened by this faith. They have not spiritually been attached to these religions they are merely "studying".

That is the difference between "religious" and "spiritual".


religious/spirituality is a belief in a higher power or a universal entity that bonds all together...

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Sat 03/17/12 10:21 AM




I have no idea if they have no spirituality, that is between them and God.


wouldn't that fact that it's between them and God means that they do have spirituality

that's why you can't have religion without having spirituality and vice versa


Not specifically, you're misunderstanding what I'm referring to, let me elaborate.

Say there is a Christian who is quite interested in general about the different beliefs around the world. How they came to be, who established them, what groups of people held close to those beliefs, ect.

This person has put there faith in Christianity, they are spiritually enlightened by this faith. They have not spiritually been attached to these religions they are merely "studying".

That is the difference between "religious" and "spiritual".


religious/spirituality is a belief in a higher power or a universal entity that bonds all together...


Not necassarily. Religion and spirituality are two separate things, can be two totally different things as well depending on the elements involved.

When one studies a "religion" they are not becoming spiritually attached nor will they.

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Sat 03/17/12 10:23 AM


God is not about religion.


Right God just make Commandments so that you don't follow them ...perhaps that's why people can't stop sinning



His "Commandments" had/have "little" to do with "religion".

What do I mean?

The Christian God proclaims He is the "Only" God.

Therefore, the Commandments aren't a "religious" idea, they are an "ordinance".

God, in other words, didn't "invent" religion, Man did when we started to stray from "One God" by creating thousands. That "act" created "religion".

That's imo.

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Sat 03/17/12 10:23 AM

Not necassarily. Religion and spirituality are two separate things, can be two totally different things as well depending on the elements involved.

When one studies a "religion" they are not becoming spiritually attached nor will they.


ok...now all you have to do is name which one has nothing to do with a belief in a higher power or a God


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Sat 03/17/12 10:25 AM


Not necassarily. Religion and spirituality are two separate things, can be two totally different things as well depending on the elements involved.

When one studies a "religion" they are not becoming spiritually attached nor will they.


ok...now all you have to do is name which one has nothing to do with a belief in a higher power or a God




That question is irrelevant to what we are talking about here.

A "religion" is a study.
A "spirituality" is a life.


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