Topic: Putting Your Heart Out There
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Tue 02/28/12 05:38 PM
And I am talking about love here.... NOT desire to possess or the need to be loved in return.

Love is very often a "mutual admiration society."

You will be drawn to love someone who likes you or loves you because it makes you feel good to be loved by someone.

People get high on being loved because it makes them feel good ABOUT THEM SELF.

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Tue 02/28/12 05:40 PM
People use the word "love" too freely.

I'll always love my mother/granny/sisters/dear friends.

But for the sake of the intended use of the word in this instance... love isn't unlimited. Your love may be for a short while, but if said love isn't returned, I'm almost definite you'd bail.

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Tue 02/28/12 05:41 PM


UNREQUITED?

rofl rofl rofl

WIKI:

"Unrequited love is love that is not openly reciprocated or understood as such, even though reciprocation is usually deeply desired."

That is not "free love" when you expect to be loved in return or if you expect anything else for it.

If you think you can only give "so much" love, then you have no idea what love really is.

Love is unlimited. If you let love flow, there is an infinite amount of it.


I don't see a problem here.

When you love someone, it's perfectly natural to want them to love you back. It's only a problem when you need someone to love you back in order for you to love them.

Unrequited love is when person A loves person B, but person B doesn't love person A. It's not reciprocal, person A is in love, regardless of how person B feels. Unrequited love is the very definition of what you are calling "free love"



No what I am calling "free love" is divine. It is like how you might say that God loves us. It is unconditional.

Yes it is "natural" to want to be loved back, it makes us feel good. But if being loved back is expected, then you are not giving your love unconditionally. In fact you are not loving at all. You are just fishing to be loved back.


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Tue 02/28/12 05:44 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Tue 02/28/12 05:44 PM



UNREQUITED?

rofl rofl rofl

WIKI:

"Unrequited love is love that is not openly reciprocated or understood as such, even though reciprocation is usually deeply desired."

That is not "free love" when you expect to be loved in return or if you expect anything else for it.

If you think you can only give "so much" love, then you have no idea what love really is.

Love is unlimited. If you let love flow, there is an infinite amount of it.


I don't see a problem here.

When you love someone, it's perfectly natural to want them to love you back. It's only a problem when you need someone to love you back in order for you to love them.

Unrequited love is when person A loves person B, but person B doesn't love person A. It's not reciprocal, person A is in love, regardless of how person B feels. Unrequited love is the very definition of what you are calling "free love"



No what I am calling "free love" is divine. It is like how you might say that God loves us. It is unconditional.

Yes it is "natural" to want to be loved back, it makes us feel good. But if being loved back is expected, then you are not giving your love unconditionally. In fact you are not loving at all. You are just fishing to be loved back.




Which is why I differentiated between a "want" and a "need" to be loved back.

I believe that God wants us to love Him, but He loves us regardless of how we feel.

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Tue 02/28/12 05:45 PM

People use the word "love" too freely.

I'll always love my mother/granny/sisters/dear friends.

But for the sake of the intended use of the word in this instance... love isn't unlimited. Your love may be for a short while, but if said love isn't returned, I'm almost definite you'd bail.


Bail from what?

Just because I love someone for who they are, and care about them does not mean I have to marry them or live with them or even like them.

The word love is only used too freely when it is not sincere. Love must be felt.

Love itself is unlimited. Only you can stifle it from your heart. If you hide from love and guard your heart and refuse to love, then within you, love is scarce.

It is like water, if you let if flow through you, there is an unlimited supply. If you stop the flow, then you cut off the flow of love in your life.


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Tue 02/28/12 05:53 PM


People use the word "love" too freely.

I'll always love my mother/granny/sisters/dear friends.

But for the sake of the intended use of the word in this instance... love isn't unlimited. Your love may be for a short while, but if said love isn't returned, I'm almost definite you'd bail.


Bail from what?

Just because I love someone for who they are, and care about them does not mean I have to marry them or live with them or even like them.

The word love is only used too freely when it is not sincere. Love must be felt.

Love itself is unlimited. Only you can stifle it from your heart. If you hide from love and guard your heart and refuse to love, then within you, love is scarce.

It is like water, if you let if flow through you, there is an unlimited supply. If you stop the flow, then you cut off the flow of love in your life.




I'm not a very spiritual person, and yeah... I judge people based upon their actions.

If more folks did what you say, then the World would definitely be a better place. But again, seems quite the daunting task.

- Just a glimpse of reason as to why some people are so reluctant to say, "I love you." indifferent

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Tue 02/28/12 05:56 PM
I never throw that word around so freely. Then again, words are only meaningful in the context they are said in. I'm sure none of us would agree we throw around the meaning of the word just to SAY the word. That's ludicrous brotha.

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Tue 02/28/12 07:05 PM
When you feel the love, then is when you should say it!

And damn the consequences.

Just be sincere and don't say it because you want to hear it.

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Tue 02/28/12 07:06 PM
And if you don't want to always say it because it is over used, then do something for the one you love that expresses your love.


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Tue 02/28/12 07:35 PM
Edited by MariahsFantasy on Tue 02/28/12 07:51 PM
Update: I've officially given up. I tried. Now my head hurts, where's the Whiskey???

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Tue 02/28/12 09:15 PM

When you feel the love, then is when you should say it!

And damn the consequences.

Just be sincere and don't say it because you want to hear it.


Amen, sista!

I had that opportunity in the last 6 months, and the words just came out -the other person wasn't ready to hear them, but it didn't matter because that is what I was feeling and I wanted to let them know someone else in the world loved them. love

As I grow older, the more I wish to share the love, not keep it too myself. Life is too short to keep love hidden.

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Tue 02/28/12 09:37 PM

Scary world, equally frightening is the people inside said world. Have anyone of you guys taken a chance and confessed how you felt for somebody you loved? Thrown caution to the wind sorta speak? For the first time I did. I actually feel kind of liberated, regardless of the reaction. Certainly feels like a weight has been lifted. Feel all growd up. bigsmile


I did so once - not to the degree that you are suggesting, I simply suggested to someone who messaged me almost daily for months that it might be nice get to each other better-but it was a disaster

the ageism on this site is as bad as I have seen anywhere when it comes to women who are older (and not just from guys who are younger)- we are viewed as candidates for sex but not relationships...guys from here who are currently WITH someone on here, have messaged me for sex (unsuccessfully) more than once - but never for relationship interest. it is not only ageist, it is annoying and exploitative - noway

at least that has been my expereince -

so no, you will see no confessions forthcoming from me any time soon

at your age you will prolly have more luck with your "confession"

sorry for the rant but that has been my experience in here

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Tue 02/28/12 09:53 PM

Scary world, equally frightening is the people inside said world. Have anyone of you guys taken a chance and confessed how you felt for somebody you loved? Thrown caution to the wind sorta speak? For the first time I did. I actually feel kind of liberated, regardless of the reaction. Certainly feels like a weight has been lifted. Feel all growd up. bigsmile


Nope, I haven't for fear of losing a good friend. Guess I am not grown up.

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Tue 02/28/12 10:21 PM

Scary world, equally frightening is the people inside said world. Have anyone of you guys taken a chance and confessed how you felt for somebody you loved? Thrown caution to the wind sorta speak? For the first time I did. I actually feel kind of liberated, regardless of the reaction. Certainly feels like a weight has been lifted. Feel all growd up. bigsmile



I've done it once. Long story short, I didn't get the response that I AND everyone else thought id get. Things were never the same after that and I lost a very good friend. I won't do it again..

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Tue 02/28/12 10:29 PM
Live and learn. Never again.

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Tue 02/28/12 10:36 PM

Update: I've officially given up. I tried. Now my head hurts, where's the Whiskey???


I don't get it. What is it that you expected that you did not get? If you expressed how you felt and you were sincere about it what is the problem?


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Tue 02/28/12 10:54 PM


Update: I've officially given up. I tried. Now my head hurts, where's the Whiskey???


I don't get it. What is it that you expected that you did not get? If you expressed how you felt and you were sincere about it what is the problem?




Audrey is a friend and she's hurting right now. Maybe you really have your life as together as you would like us to believe, but Audrey is less than half your age, so give her a break and let her grieve.

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Tue 02/28/12 11:59 PM
That's nice that she's your friend Spider. I don't really know what she is hurting about. One minute she was feeling "liberated" and the next minute she is "giving up" and saying that her head hurts, so I don't really understand the problem.

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(As for me "having my life together" I don't know about that. :tongue: I'm certainly working on that, but I'm 63 years old and its a little late for that.... laugh laugh )


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Wed 02/29/12 12:14 AM





There is nothing to lose in telling someone you care. Unless you are expecting something in return.

Give freely.



I'm calling self-righteous bull on this one.

Sounds good on paper, but just quite doesn't work out.



It was 100% sincere and I practice it myself.

Its called detachment and free love.'

Free love is when you love someone and don't expect anything in return.

It's not hard really.

If you give anything and expect something in return... then it is NOT GIVING.




It just seems like an infinite loop.

You can only give so much.

Unrequited love is just foolish.


UNREQUITED?

rofl rofl rofl

WIKI:

"Unrequited love is love that is not openly reciprocated or understood as such, even though reciprocation is usually deeply desired."

That is not "free love" when you expect to be loved in return or if you expect anything else for it.

If you think you can only give "so much" love, then you have no idea what love really is.

Love is unlimited. If you let love flow, there is an infinite amount of it.







there is no such thing as love of any kind with detachment

interpersonal detachment is actually a symptom of possible mental illness or personality disorder and/or cause to be referred for treatment or evaluation for treatment

emotional interpersonal detachment is a commonality shared by violent offenders and sex offenders

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Wed 02/29/12 12:15 AM


There is nothing to lose in telling someone you care. Unless you are expecting something in return.

Give freely.



I'm calling self-righteous bull on this one.

Sounds good on paper, but just quite doesn't work out.


exactly

not in real life anyway