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Where I live, the min wage for servers is over $8 an hour. I can understand people not leaving a tip in a restaurant here.
But if you go to a restaurant that pays their employee only $2.10 an hour, and the person gives inferior service (not because they are an *******, just because they are honestly incompetent, or maybe having a bad day).... .... do you really feel okay about receiving their service for only $2.10 an hour? Is $2.10 an hour a fair wage, even for low quality service? |
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Where I live, the min wage for servers is over $8 an hour. I can understand people not leaving a tip in a restaurant here. But if you go to a restaurant that pays their employee only $2.10 an hour, and the person gives inferior service (not because they are an *******, just because they are honestly incompetent, or maybe having a bad day).... .... do you really feel okay about receiving their service for only $2.10 an hour? Is $2.10 an hour a fair wage, even for low quality service? I dont think most restaurants post what their servers hourly wage is to the customers. I consider it a commission type job personally, if you dont make the sale you dont get the tip. I feel fine with it, |
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Where I live, the min wage for servers is over $8 an hour. I can understand people not leaving a tip in a restaurant here. But if you go to a restaurant that pays their employee only $2.10 an hour, and the person gives inferior service (not because they are an *******, just because they are honestly incompetent, or maybe having a bad day).... .... do you really feel okay about receiving their service for only $2.10 an hour? Is $2.10 an hour a fair wage, even for low quality service? I dont think most restaurants post what their servers hourly wage is to the customers. I consider it a commission type job personally, if you dont make the sale you dont get the tip. I feel fine with it, Do you frequent restaurants with bad service? From what you've been saying, it sounds like this happens a lot. |
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Where I live, the min wage for servers is over $8 an hour. I can understand people not leaving a tip in a restaurant here. But if you go to a restaurant that pays their employee only $2.10 an hour, and the person gives inferior service (not because they are an *******, just because they are honestly incompetent, or maybe having a bad day).... .... do you really feel okay about receiving their service for only $2.10 an hour? Is $2.10 an hour a fair wage, even for low quality service? I dont think most restaurants post what their servers hourly wage is to the customers. I consider it a commission type job personally, if you dont make the sale you dont get the tip. I feel fine with it, Do you frequent restaurants with bad service? From what you've been saying, it sounds like this happens a lot. no, I dont frequent a restaurant if bad servers seem to be the NORM, but I have been to a restaurant or two where one PERSON who was supposed to wait the table gave piss poor service,,, |
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Also, those who don't tip if they're not satisfied, do you just not leave a tip, or do you speak to a manager and let them know what's going on?
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Also, those who don't tip if they're not satisfied, do you just not leave a tip, or do you speak to a manager and let them know what's going on? I just dont tip. I think that sends enough of a message without getting the person into trouble with their boss. It gives them the chance to reflect and correct the situation on their own. If the same server seems to repeatedly give poor service, thats when I Would talk with a manager. |
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Also, those who don't tip if they're not satisfied, do you just not leave a tip, or do you speak to a manager and let them know what's going on? I just dont tip. I think that sends enough of a message without getting the person into trouble with their boss. It gives them the chance to reflect and correct the situation on their own. If the same server seems to repeatedly give poor service, thats when I Would talk with a manager. |
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Also, those who don't tip if they're not satisfied, do you just not leave a tip, or do you speak to a manager and let them know what's going on? I just dont tip. I think that sends enough of a message without getting the person into trouble with their boss. It gives them the chance to reflect and correct the situation on their own. If the same server seems to repeatedly give poor service, thats when I Would talk with a manager. What do they have to do/not do to get you not to tip? |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 02/28/12 06:27 AM
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Also, those who don't tip if they're not satisfied, do you just not leave a tip, or do you speak to a manager and let them know what's going on? I just dont tip. I think that sends enough of a message without getting the person into trouble with their boss. It gives them the chance to reflect and correct the situation on their own. If the same server seems to repeatedly give poor service, thats when I Would talk with a manager. What do they have to do/not do to get you not to tip? have a bad attitude, throw food at the table, smack gum, roll their eyes, visit the table only to get the order, deliver the food, and pick up the check things of that nature which contribute to making my dining experience unpleasant,,,, |
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Also, those who don't tip if they're not satisfied, do you just not leave a tip, or do you speak to a manager and let them know what's going on? I just dont tip. I think that sends enough of a message without getting the person into trouble with their boss. It gives them the chance to reflect and correct the situation on their own. If the same server seems to repeatedly give poor service, thats when I Would talk with a manager. What do they have to do/not do to get you not to tip? have a bad attitude, throw food at the table, smack gum, roll their eyes, visit the table only to get the order, deliver the food, and pick up the check things of that nature which contribute to making my dining experience unpleasant,,,, And this has happened often to you? I can't remember the last time I went to a place where service was bad enough that I even thought about not tipping. |
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Also, those who don't tip if they're not satisfied, do you just not leave a tip, or do you speak to a manager and let them know what's going on? I just dont tip. I think that sends enough of a message without getting the person into trouble with their boss. It gives them the chance to reflect and correct the situation on their own. If the same server seems to repeatedly give poor service, thats when I Would talk with a manager. What do they have to do/not do to get you not to tip? have a bad attitude, throw food at the table, smack gum, roll their eyes, visit the table only to get the order, deliver the food, and pick up the check things of that nature which contribute to making my dining experience unpleasant,,,, And this has happened often to you? I can't remember the last time I went to a place where service was bad enough that I even thought about not tipping. no, thank goodness it hasnt happened 'often' but it has happened,,, |
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From the same link:
CORRECTION: On Monday evening, True Food Kitchen in Newport Beach released an official statement based on their investigation (described above) into the authenticity of the purported receipt showing a 1% tip. The restaurant's statement reveals that their hard receipt copies do not, in fact, match the photo (shown above) that was initially posted on futureexbanker.wordpress.com (since taken down). The complete statement from True Food Kitchen: We’re glad to respond to the news stories about a tipping incident at True Food Kitchen in Newport Beach. Our first concern upon learning about this situation was our staff. We are very fortunate to have employees that are talented, bright, and undoubtedly, some of the best in the business. However, we would like to report that there is misinformation circulating about this situation. The dining receipt that was originally posted on the blog, Future Ex Banker, and then republished by various websites, was, in fact, altered and exaggerated. We’d also like to assure people that the receipt was not posted and altered by anyone on behalf of True Food Kitchen. We respect our guests’ privacy and take it very seriously; we would never share personal information. |
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thats good news
this isnt polaroid era anymore , a picture now is worth about two cents,,,, |
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Unfortunately some people lie. But, it did bring up an interesting discussion about tipping.
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Tipping has gotten out of control and you are all just paying someone to do their job THATS RIGHT. YOU ARE. Imagine that paying someone to do there job, where else in the market is that done pft.
Here is the rub buddy. If we changed the way waiters and waitresses get paid the cost of the dinner would go up by that amount. Maybe we should. But then instead of a 10 dollar meal it would be 15, or even more. More and more businesses are adding a mandatory gratuity to the bill, good for them! If you dont like it, DONT patronize the establishment. It really is that simple. I'm saying, pay them more than 2.50 an hour and quit basing their pay on the variables of the industry. A waiter at a hole in the wall shouldn't make less money than someone doing the same job working just as hard at an upscale restraunt. I find it to be flawed logic and I don't believe in tipping. If I'm there for an hour and leave a $10 tip, if I'm the only table they had, thats $10 an hour. Meanwhile, the dishwasher is making, whats minimum wage now, like $7. He doesn't get tip share, is his job less important? Do customers not care about clean dishes, silverware, and cookware? Maybe he will get a raise if he stays around long enough and does a good job, that's the way it works. The dishwasher shouldn't get stiffed because his pay comes from the employer and not the customer directly. A waiter's job should not be based on what the customer is willing to pay but on what the employer is willing to pay. If they don't like that I don't tip, they can take it up with their employer, the person that is suppose to be supplying their income. |
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I disagree. The customer pays one price for the food which can be counted toward what the 'kitchen' staff make.
They pay another price for service, and service varies alot more than food on the menu,,, so the tip for service is just as flexible... |
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Tipping has gotten out of control and you are all just paying someone to do their job THATS RIGHT. YOU ARE. Imagine that paying someone to do there job, where else in the market is that done pft.
Here is the rub buddy. If we changed the way waiters and waitresses get paid the cost of the dinner would go up by that amount. Maybe we should. But then instead of a 10 dollar meal it would be 15, or even more. More and more businesses are adding a mandatory gratuity to the bill, good for them! If you dont like it, DONT patronize the establishment. It really is that simple. I'm saying, pay them more than 2.50 an hour and quit basing their pay on the variables of the industry. A waiter at a hole in the wall shouldn't make less money than someone doing the same job working just as hard at an upscale restraunt. I find it to be flawed logic and I don't believe in tipping. If I'm there for an hour and leave a $10 tip, if I'm the only table they had, thats $10 an hour. Meanwhile, the dishwasher is making, whats minimum wage now, like $7. He doesn't get tip share, is his job less important? Do customers not care about clean dishes, silverware, and cookware? Maybe he will get a raise if he stays around long enough and does a good job, that's the way it works. The dishwasher shouldn't get stiffed because his pay comes from the employer and not the customer directly. A waiter's job should not be based on what the customer is willing to pay but on what the employer is willing to pay. If they don't like that I don't tip, they can take it up with their employer, the person that is suppose to be supplying their income. Its just not clear cut, and when you ask questions you tend to find answers matter. I agree with msharmony service should be separate from food. Great tips are an incentive to serve to a high degree. There are pro's with a tipping system both for the waiter and for those being served. The people who dont tip, or pull stuff like the OP was about either do not understand these facts, or are indeed . . . hmm how to put it . . . not nice people. |
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Tipping has gotten out of control and you are all just paying someone to do their job THATS RIGHT. YOU ARE. Imagine that paying someone to do there job, where else in the market is that done pft.
Here is the rub buddy. If we changed the way waiters and waitresses get paid the cost of the dinner would go up by that amount. Maybe we should. But then instead of a 10 dollar meal it would be 15, or even more. More and more businesses are adding a mandatory gratuity to the bill, good for them! If you dont like it, DONT patronize the establishment. It really is that simple. I'm saying, pay them more than 2.50 an hour and quit basing their pay on the variables of the industry. A waiter at a hole in the wall shouldn't make less money than someone doing the same job working just as hard at an upscale restraunt. I find it to be flawed logic and I don't believe in tipping. If I'm there for an hour and leave a $10 tip, if I'm the only table they had, thats $10 an hour. Meanwhile, the dishwasher is making, whats minimum wage now, like $7. He doesn't get tip share, is his job less important? Do customers not care about clean dishes, silverware, and cookware? Maybe he will get a raise if he stays around long enough and does a good job, that's the way it works. The dishwasher shouldn't get stiffed because his pay comes from the employer and not the customer directly. A waiter's job should not be based on what the customer is willing to pay but on what the employer is willing to pay. If they don't like that I don't tip, they can take it up with their employer, the person that is suppose to be supplying their income. Its just not clear cut, and when you ask questions you tend to find answers matter. I agree with msharmony service should be separate from food. Great tips are an incentive to serve to a high degree. There are pro's with a tipping system both for the waiter and for those being served. The people who dont tip, or pull stuff like the OP was about either do not understand these facts, or are indeed . . . hmm how to put it . . . not nice people. I consider myself nice but I dont tip when service is lacking. |
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Its a perfect example of PROPAGANDA by an anonymous person.
What could be the motive? Political ploy to get people to hate greedy bankers? I think we already do. 
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