No diversion tactics and I didn't say you weren't worth my time. You are obviously intelligent and witty, you post some interesting things. But debating isn't worth my time today. I'm off to hang out with my kids for awhile and then I've got some errands to do. Have fun.

who said it is APPLE THEY EAT? THEY DID NOT EAT APPLE, BCOS EVEN TILL TODAY WE ARE STILL EATEN APPLE AND NOTHING IS WRONG FROM APPLE ATE,


IT WAS A SEX FOR PLEASURE THAT THE SATAN INSPIRED THE SERPENT TO DECIEVE THE WOMAN EVE,
MEAN WHILE WHILE SATAN HAS ANOTHER MOTIVE, BUT SERPENT IS JUST GOING TO HAVE SEX WITH THE WOMAN FOR FEEL ALRIGHT SAKE [JUST PLEASURE]

BUT THE SATAN HAS A PLAN TO SOW A NEGATIVE SEED FIRST INTO THE WOMB OF THE WOMAN EVE.

IT WAS AFTER HE SLEPT WITH THE SERPENT FIRST , THEN HER HUSBAND CAME BACK AND SHE TOLD HER THAT WE TESTED THIS PART OF LIFE WITH SERPENT,

AND THE MAN NOW WENT IN , AND AFTER THE WOMAN CONCIEVED 2 BABIES, CAIN AND ABEL,
IT IS NOT TWINS,

SO STUDY THE BIBLE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND VERY CLEAR THAT IS WAS AFTER THEY ATE THE FRUIT, THEN THEY DISCOVERED THAT THEY WERE NAKED, AND THEY COVER THEIR NAKEDNESS WHICH IS THE MOUTH THEY USE TO EAT THE FRUIT

THE SERPENT INTRODUCE SEX FOR PLEASURE UNTO THE WOMAN, THAT IS WHAT HAPPEN TO THE ADAM AND EVE,

AND REMEMBER THE BOOK OF GENESIS IS HOW MAN FAILED AND THE BOOK OF REVELATION IS HOW MAN WAS REDEEM AND END OF THE RULE OF MAN ON EARTH ,
NOTE ANYTHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GOD CONCERNING THE REDEMPTION OF MAN AND HIS PROGRAMMES ON EARTH, HE GOD WROTE THEM IN CODED SYMBOLS SO THAT IT WILL TAKE HIM ONLY TO REVEAL IT UNTO WHO SO EVER HE WISHES, AND FOR THE REST OF THE PEOPLE HE WILL LEAVE THE MESSAGES ONLY IN PARABLE

THANKS

I personally don't see 'death' as an entirely bad thing.

If we were all immortal? Oh man.. what chaos then.

But it'd be far better if we all had the same time frame.
Like we all live to 100, for example.

However, then that might create a different kind of pandemonium.

So, Spider, any actual thoughts on the Serpent Seed, or is it a topic you are just staying away from and prefer just to point own my miscues. :D

..that wasn't aimed at you, Spider.

EDIT: I meant, that instead of asking Marrion and the other guy who diverted by making me watch that video; I should have just sought you out and asked you.

Have fun with the kiddos. :D

In other words, treat your wife like she is the most beautiful and precious thing in the world and she'll give you as much sex as you can handle.

CORRECT!!!

The Bible does.
Second. Yes, Apples are everywhere, most are even man-made because most in nature are actually 'bitter'.

Regardless, we do not eat apples from the Tree of Knowledge, because we haven't had access to the Garden for.. well, a while.



Yeah, I got that much from the sweating pastor guy...
Kind of weird the bible makes no mention of bestiality or the fact the snake was out to have sex with the woman.



..so instead of doing it himself, he sends.. a serpent?
..and this woman Eve, willingly has sex... with a snake? o.o



..she told her husband she had sex with a snake?! o.O



He knew and STILL had sex with her? Please.
No man is going to have sex with his woman after she said she had sex with a talking snake.. let alone another guy.



I have studied the bible. For years.
And this statement right here, is common knowledge, and something I've even stated before. EXCEPT
That bold part which is baffling as to what you mean?

They used their mouths to cover their nakedness? Tell me how that works?



..so why isn't any of this in the bible itself and is only in your minds through the conceived notion of a Priest who is being called a false prophet by other pastors and priests?

Your version still, which you have not answered, leaves one major issue:

Your version PROVES God is not omni-anything. I'll get into this more after your next statement:



Man didn't fail. It was Gods plan, therefore, Man, as he wanted, did exactly what he was pre-destined to do.

Why?

According to your Theory.

God created the Devil PURPOSELY.
God created the Tree PURPOSELY.
He thus created those chain of events to occur.

Why?

Maybe it was to belittle man right from the gate? I don't know, you'd have to explain that one.



So, then God does hold favoritism? Or is that deemed prejudice?

So, if this is what you deem 'correct'.

Let me point out something.

Eve was then no longer 'Tempted'.

Why?

She didn't know the serpent was 'evil'.

..just saying.

And again, the fault lies not in man.

Proverbs 30:20
Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.

Which reverts back to what I was stating earlier by 'two mouths'.

It was indeed a sexual innuendo.

How come all these people seem to speak for God,but yet the almighty just can't teleport to this planet he created and put us atheist in check?Please don't say "he will when you're dead" that's a cop out abrahamic religions use cause they know dead people can't talk.Why not when i'm alive?

..you won't get a truthful answer for this outside:

A. "That is God's will. We are blind until 'Born Again'. Only then will know, but you shall feel and see his presence in everything."

Of course, for this to be true, those who have already been 'born again' wouldn't be arguing about which interpretation is correct. They'd already have that answer.

B. "You'll find out when you die and face him for your judgement."

"Why not when I'm alive?"

..I'm assuming it is based off the principle that God has decided, through scripture and what have you, that outside of 'pushing you in the right direction' God will no longer truly hold an effect over any man's life so that he may not disturb free-will.

Plus, and ultimately, though they won't outright say it, 'He doesn't care if you believe or not but when you face him in the after life; will you still deny me?'

Or so I've been told..

i cant talk much with you, just look yourself in this mirrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urlTBBKTO68

So then the great flood and the exodus was freewill?Ah the hypocrisy continues.

God made man and bless them to mutiply and be fruitful, if it was sex they had that brought death on them, how else were they going to mutiply the earth?

..that's my point.

You did read most or some of what I just wrote?
..in this thread and the other, right Riskit?

..and if you look just above your post.

He is copping out again.

You see.

The concept of: Rich and Poor also extends to knowledge.
The believer is proclaimed to be 'rich'.
The non-believer is said to be 'poor'.

You have what we lack.
So if we seek what you have, but do it in a means that is respectful and courteous, why do you show me the cold shoulder?

I have not belittled you, I have not judged.
I have not name-called, I have not screamed.

I have remained calmed, despite your judgments.
I even watched your video, and aside from poking some fun at the way people where during the 10 minutes song..
..I tried to remain respectful of their belief as well, and I only critiqued his actual words.

So, why is it when I ask you a question, or he asks you a question; you hit us with youtube links and state, 'we are not worth your time'.

..is it because now you must pray and ask for forgiveness for your sins by turning a cold shoulder to those in 'need'?

In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: "It is more blessed to give than to receive" (Acts 20:35)

..yet, here in front of those who read this, you deny Jesus.

So, my friend, it is you who is need of a mirror.

For you have not answered, nor attempted to answer, anything but instead seek for others to do that which you cannot do yourself.

"..it is through doubt that we feel we cannot answer in honest; and so you seek your Lord; but such in itself is a sin and you are no better than the sinner who steals.."

Onward and upward.

Joy, his logic, via the Serpent Seed Doctrine states:

"God did not intend for sex to be pleasurable; in fact, God HATES fornication. It was Satan, who entranced the serpent, that deceived Eve into accepting 'sex for pleasure'; and thus she introduced Adam to sex for pleasure."

In other words; we were to apparently multiply through a process that 'sucked', but after Eve committed bestiality and had sex with a snake; sex now became an act of pleasure and not just reproduction.

It wasn't an apple. The Bible just says "fruit".

But, that's not important. So, this theory....I think of heard of a similar theory where all non-white people people are descendants of Cain who was banished by God. And, they are somehow inferior because of their beginnings.

Complete nonsense.

God doesn't hate sex. Nor did he mean for it to be used only for procreation. The same with food. Food serves a purpose and a need greater than just caloric consumption.

God condemns the misuse of both food and sex. Too much of anything causes an imbalance which has negative consequences.

LMAO

..dude, did you watch this video?!

It proves God is an arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical atrocity. Not the opposite. >.<

"I don't care what good you've done. Only those who worship me are allowed in heaven. What kind of place would heaven be if I only let in good people?"

Brahahaha.