Thessalonians
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

God's children will not be "judged". We are saved by the grace of God. And if we are saved purely by the grace of God, what is there to judge?

Notice verse 17, it states "to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord." Does not say "to meet the Lord in the air and will be judged"

The Second Coming is not the rapture....2 different events.

I was giving one example...but if you choose to be specific.....what if 100s of thousands of Christians are driving and all were killed and removed at the same time ...imagine how many others people will be killed by their vehicles

lol, Funches. When Judgement comes, it will be SIMULTANEOUSLY. Christians, muslims, buddhists, atheists, ect will ALL be judged SIMULTANEOUSLY. Will not be given a court date to show up for.

Cowboy,Funches is talking abou the rapture,not the judgment.

Yes he did die for our sins. Jesus went to HELL for YOU. Jesus shook hands with Satan.

CowboyGH




|Please give me exactly whedre in the bible said that Jesus went to HELL for YOU. Jesus shook hands with Satan.

Funches wrote:



Cowboy responded to Funches with:





And I said:

Funches wrote:



Cowboy responded to Funches with:





And I said:

Judgement and the rapture still will happen simotaneously. God's children will be taken home and the rest of the world will be destroyed. Does not state that God's children will be taken to Heaven then 100 years later .. ect ect. Does not give any specified reference to time between the rapture and the judgement. So with no time being specified it would be safe to assume they happen simotaneously, again because there is not time frame mentioned between the two.

Question: "Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection?"


There is a great deal of confusion in regards to this question.

This concept comes primarily from the Apostles' Creed, which

states, “He descended into hell.” There are also a few Scriptures

which, depending on how they are translated, describe Jesus going

to “hell.” In studying this issue, it is important to first

understand what the Bible teaches about the realm of the dead.



In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the

dead is sheol. It simply means the “place of the dead” or

the “place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek word

that is used for hell is “hades,” which also refers to “the place

of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that

sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await

the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a

clear distinction between the two. Hell (the lake of fire) is the

permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades is a

temporary place. So, no, Jesus did not go to hell because hell is a

future realm, only put into effect after the Great White Throne

Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15).



Sheol/hades is a realm with two divisions (Matthew 11:23, 16:18;

Luke 10:15, 16:23; Acts 2:27-31), the abodes of the saved and the

lost. The abode of the saved was called “paradise” and “Abraham's

bosom.” The abodes of the saved and the lost are separated by

a “great chasm” (Luke 16:26). When Jesus ascended to heaven, He

took the occupants of paradise (believers) with Him (Ephesians 4:8-

10). The lost side of sheol/hades has remained unchanged. All

unbelieving dead go there awaiting their final judgment in the

future. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes, according to Ephesians

4:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:18-20.



Some of the confusion has arisen from such passages as Psalm 16:10-

11 as translated in the King James Version, “For thou wilt not leave

my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see

corruption....Thou wilt show me the path of life.” “Hell” is not a

correct translation of this verse. A correct reading would be “the

grave” or “sheol.” Jesus said to the thief beside Him, “Today you

will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). Jesus’ body was in the

tomb; His soul/spirit went to the “paradise” side of sheol/hades. He

then removed all the righteous dead from paradise and took them

with Him to heaven. Unfortunately, in many translations of the

Bible, translators are not consistent, or correct, in how they

translate the Hebrew and Greek words for “sheol,” “hades,”

and “hell.”



Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering

side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins.

This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the

cross and His suffering in our place that sufficiently provided for

our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own

cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross,

He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He

became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so

that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2

Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand

Christ's struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin

which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.



When Jesus cried upon the cross, “Oh, Father, why have you forsaken

me?” (Matthew 27:46), it was then that He was separated from the

Father because of the sin poured out upon Him. As He gave up His

spirit, He said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit” (Luke

23:46). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit

went to the paradise side of hades. Jesus did not go to hell.

Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was

paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return

to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to

sheol/hades? Yes.

In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the

dead is sheol. It simply means the “place of the dead” or

the “place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek word

that is used for hell is “hades,” which also refers to “the place

of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that

sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await

the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a

clear distinction between the two. Hell (the lake of fire) is the

permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades is a

temporary place. So, no, Jesus did not go to hell because hell is a

future realm, only put into effect after the Great White Throne

Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15).

Cowboy wrote"



NO COWBOY...THE REST OF THE WORLD WILL NOT BE DESTROYED AT

THE RAPTURE!!!!!!! STUDY THE WORD BEFORE POSTING YOUR CRAP ON HERE !!!!!

THAT IS WHERE FUNCHES GOT HIS FALSE TEACHING ON THE RAPTURE...FROM YOUR 3 YEARS OF FALSE TEACHING ON HERE !!!!

I AM SICK OF IT!!!

Cowboy wrote"



NO COWBOY...THE REST OF THE WORLD WILL NOT BE DESTROYED AT

THE RAPTURE!!!!!!! STUDY THE WORD BEFORE POSTING YOUR CRAP ON HERE !!!!!

THAT IS WHERE FUNCHES GOT HIS FALSE TEACHING ON THE RAPTURE...FROM YOUR 3 YEARS OF FALSE TEACHING ON HERE !!!!

I AM SICK OF IT!!!

Hell is a temporary holding place, it's not ment to be eternal. Satan was placed there until Judgement.

And we won't mention the corrections I have made for you including but not limited to my post prior to this one. It is true the rapture and the second coming are not the exact same thing. But they will happen simotaneously. There is no time specified between the two.

And yes the rest of world will be destroyed. That is why a new Earth and Heaven is made. For there would be no need for a new Earth or Heaven if the first was not destroyed in one way or other.

Revelation 21

1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Cowboy,this above, does NOT take place simultaneously WITH the rapture.

Read the bible.....this is all false info you are sharing on here.


Will you please listen fro once?

And NO satan was not placed there til

Judment....Satan is NOT there yet !!!

Satan LIKE a roaring lion, seeketh whom he may devour.

STUDY THE WORD !!

Almost EVERY post of yours has been false over the

past 3 years.

No one can make you listen.

Oh well....

Carry on....post as you wish..I will not bother anymore.


Take care.

See this is exactly what I mean. You do not "discuss". You say what you say as it were the absolute and complete truth no matter what any one else says or shows. You state that people are wrong, or in this case specifically me. But when someone states something you can no longer disagree with you drop it and leave it at that. So in your mind, nothing changed at that instance and you remain with the error or possibly leave someone else with their error, where's the love in that? What if Jesus would have just left us with our error? What good would that have brought forth? None, so why do you do it? Why do you allow someone to remain in their error when they have said time and time again they wish you would SHOW and EXPLAIN to them their error using scriptual evidence. You've done this to an extent, then when further discussion on the topic progresses you just drop it and leave it at that.