only if your the one laughing.
speaking of laughing, when playing those video games making the racing look so easy, add the following real world factors:
a: positive G
b:NEGATIVE G
c:EXTREME SWEAT FACtOR. which inludes the following worries:
1) damn its hot in here
2) the heat from the engine aint helpin
3) the heat from the sun baked track aint helpin much either
4) the worry sweat factor, breakdowns, spinouts,strategy, ect
d: hope i dont screw up factor
e: wish i could pee factor
f: the i hope the voices in hy helmet dont quit talking to me factor
g; hope i dont miss my pit / spin out in my pit factor

I'll take that as a yes to the name calling then. I guess some people cant help themselves
And those reason you gave dont make you an athlete lol. Try again.

whatever sinsneer. lol

lol sinsneer? geeze stop that already! No need for name calling gosh

well lakeman!!!
like i said ))))))ANYONE(((((((((
can drive!!
what do you think these
)))))))ATHLETES((((((((just jumped in a car and got to nascar??
hell if anyone had the sponser money and unlimited funds these big companyies have hell my mom could do it!!
theres no big thing about nascar
hell ten years ago most people did even know what nascar was!!
and besides nascar is red neck for))))NICE CAR((((((hehehehe

Can anyone explain the "redneck" hating of Jeff Gordon?? Lot of people say he's "queer", But it's really because he is better than the Earnhardts.
Personally I am soooo glad he is breaking all of #3's records and personal timetable stuff.


Look I'm glad there is so much passion here. But come on, already. Drivers are skilled professionals NOT athletes!!

This is an argument thay no one is going to win. Like Lakeman said, if ya don't like NASCAR, fine. Don't watch it. It gets a little monotonous to hear the same old "drivers aren't really athletes" and "it's boring to watch cars drive in circles" and "there is no skill involved". These are jabs from people who know nothing about NASCAR, know nothing about the drivers and crews, know nothing about the competition, know nothing about the personalities of the people in the sport, know nothing about the family atmosphere (you rarely hear about a NASCAR driver or crewman being up on drug charges or whatever), know nothing about how a driver looks and feels as he climbs out of his car exhausted, sweaty and dehidrated after 500 miles at Bristol, know nothing about the strategy and pit stops and fuel mileage and tire wear and heat/coolness of the day and track and how well the car is handling and the circumstances involved with wrecks and cautions and teammates and which drivers are more skilled at certain tracks and everything involved with how a complete race plays out. So, say what you want about a sport you know nothing about, because millions of people/fans disagree with you. Why? Because they know SOMETHING you don't know. You're same old arguments are tired and old. You've voiced them, now move on.......and go watch golf or something.

Maybe you should start your own thread (cricket) about how awesome NASCAR is then.

It is a very ignorant statement to say that those people who don't like it, or think it's stupid, are only saying that because they don't have any knowledge about NASCAR.

I drive fast to work & sometimes sweat a lot. Does that make me an athlete too???

these guys drive 2-3 times as fast as you should be on your way to work. thats a lot diferent there BR549. LOL

i dont think my statement is ignorant at all, BR77R. if you dont like the sport of NASCAR thats fine with me. but hearing the same reasons for not liking it (i.e. drivers are not athletes, driving in circles is boring) over and over and over again without any validation to your point tells me that you do not follow or even watch NASCAR and therefore, probably don't know much about it. if you do know about it, then any complaints that you have about the sport i'd hope to believe would be more detailed than the same old vague complaints mentioned above.

so you'd rather watch baseball? fine. don't those guys hit a ball with a stick and run in circles over and over and over again? you'd rather watch basketball? fine. don't those guys bounce a ball back and forth and back and forth and back and forth on a court shooting the ball into a hoop over and over again? you'd rather watch football? fine. don't those guys run back and forth...............blah blah blah, yawn. to each his/her own i guess. all i'm saying is, there's more to NASCAR than driving in circles and going fast. just as there's more to baseball, basketball, and football than i mentioned above. you want to argue that NASCAR is boring and the drivers arent athletes? fine with me. just know a little more what you're arguing about before you start the debate.

BASICALLY IT AINT EASY DRIVING A RACE CAR GOING 200 MILES A HOUR AND STILL STAY ON THE TRACK AND NOT WRECK,THERE IS A STRAGEDTY ,FIRST POINTS AND PLACING AND WHO IS GOING TO START.SO BASICALLY WEATHER OR NOT YOU THINK RACING IS A SPORT IS IREVELENT YOU GET OUT ON THAT TRACK AND DO IT! THEY RISK THERE LIVES EVERYTIME THEY DO IT!!!!!!!!1 SO WAKE UP PEOPLE ITS A JOB THEY MAKE MORE MONEY THEN ME AND YOU SO LETS GET IT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!AND YES I AM A FAN,SO

IS DOG FIGHTING A SPORT?AND IF YOU SAY YES TO THIS YOU NEEDX TO BE SHOT!!!!!!!!!SAME WITH MIKE VICK!!!!!!!!!1

lol
1.)FONTANA, Calif. -- NASCAR officials said Friday that Shane Hmiel has failed his third drug test and was permanently banned from NASCAR competition.

2.)NASCAR suspends Fike, fiancee for drug arrests

Nope no drugs in nascar

PHOENIX—Nextel Cup Series driver Kurt Busch, who was detained on suspicion of driving drunk and cited for reckless driving

NASCAR Driver Faces Charges After Weekend Crash ... Michael Waltrip is charged with reckless driving and failure to report an accident.

oops

"NASCAR has dropped its ban on sponsorships by distilled spirits companies and now invites their participation, according to Mike Helton, president of NASCAR."

Have another

to br77r About nascar not being athletes:
Got to this late but each race the drivers lose an average of 10lbs (piss, sweat) during a regular nascar event. The average person (exercise once in a blue moon) would get exhausted and pass out a 1/4 way through at most. You have to be physically stable to drive and stay focused. I used to race in circles I know.

About nascar:
Nascar is a team sport, 75% pit crew and chief 25% driver. Controlling the car at 150mph around a corner even if its the same corner over and over still takes skill. Lack of knowledge on a subject is your downfall.

About gordon:
Awesome driver, breaking records left and right, yes. Better than earnheardt sr. no, jr. yes. Sr no because if you watch all of his races, many teams involved there strategies around this driver. He is the single most infulential racer ever to race (that I watched).

k2 you have some good points. I think that the measuring stick between Jr. and Gordon will be a little more clear during next season when they are both in similar equipment. They are both top drivers. I do know first hand that 2 years ago at Martinsville...I was listening to Jr. on the scanner and he was complaining that the engine in his car was a piece of crap that would not keep up with Gordon down the straights. Tony Jr. came back at him and said "Gordon is coming out of the turns cleaner and getting straight faster which allows him to then put the power to the track quicker. Junior only said "That's a Roger!"
After the restart he was right on Gordon's bumper and stuck like glue. Each track and every turn is different as far as angles,surface and smoothness. These all have to be taken into account during set-up of the chassis. Tire pressures can win or lose a race. Just like they said above. It is a team sport. If ya don't like it...go watch kick ball. (sock her...lol)That should be a good boring sport for the non-technical that wants to see lots of running people doing nothing but kicking each other in the nuts!! BORING!!

Those that say Nascar isn't a sport or that the drivers are not in good shape oughta head out to the Petty Experience and give it a "try".... lol

Yah, you'd be back here changing your tune with a ton of humility sprinkled on top.

Nascar is a sport, and I enjoy all the other motor sports as well.

My opinion and your welcome for it. lol

bullie

I agree with ya bully it looks a damn sight eaisier than it is, most of us would be dead before the first lap was completed!!!