yah, and being without honor he stayed in office anyway.

i did say it was for "lying about sleeping with an intern"... but when you think about it, bush lied having proper pretenses to go to war. under oath or not, that's a LOT more damaging to the country.

he also wasent impeached for selling military secrets to china, Waco, Ruby ridge, raising taxes and expanding govt spending, ect. ect. ect....

LETS REVIEW:
BUSH WENT TO WAR AFTER HOW MANY WARNINGS OVER HOW MANY YEARS FROM HIM? FROM NATO? THE DECISION HE MADE WAS BASED ON THE BEST AVAILABLE EVIDENCE.
HELLO?

i forget about all the lines written in the sand in politics. lying is ok in one case and it isn't in another, because certain people say so. speaking of which, bush senior funded saddam with cash and weapons, but that's beside the point.

he did? hmmm you better look a little farther back in the history books if you believe that....

if you say it louder, it must be right, right? the condescending "HELLO?" at the end was spectacular. thanks.

lets review. NATO didn't endorse declaring war, nor did the UN. we took it upon ourselves without conclusive evidence (seeing the weapons) to attack, because we had other motives for attacking.

why does saddams army have SOVIET equipment? who was the country that was against the war? Russia both times. dont see any enemy M1 tanks or M16 rifles on the news do you?

i'm sorry, you're right. it was reagan, not bush senior.

wow, you are really getting angry now. i like how you are endorsing the deaths of thousands of americans here.

how old are you jawwd?
i was there and i remember the years of UN SANCTIONS, the reports of hussain gassing his own people. the weapons of mass destruction that were confoscated before they got there, the inspectors being turned back every time they wanted to inspect another so called baby milk factory, The weapons grade uranium confiscated, ect,ect, ect. This thing has been going on way before Bush even thought of being president.
there has probably never been a more legal and necessary war in american history.

lol if it's that necessary, we should have gotten the world's support first. UN, NATO, anyone... why are we the only ones who did anything? well, besides great britain, who grudgingly sent a few troops in as well because they're our ally... then we got stubborn and yelled at france for not helping (cuz they feel the same way i do) and deeming "french fries" as "freedom fries"... wow, we sure showed them.

saddam's been doing his thing for years and suddenly we try to find a false excuse to invade? bush senior showed how foolish that was, why did we do it again? natural resources? maybe, maybe not. being able to re-inforce homeland security? maybe, maybe not. i'll never know, but i do think the whole thing is f*cked up.

by the way, thanks for butchering my screen name. that's thoughtful.

jesus man we DID GET UN support first. in fact we had it i dont know how many times, where the UN passed resolutions to the effect of... either allow inspections or else.

where are you getting your info? i can assure you that you have been misled. anyone my age saw the whole damn mess unfold, and it was a process that took years. decades actually. No one wants War, but the decision was made and now we must complete the job. otherwise we ARE THE problem. I dont like this war any more than you but thats really irrelavent since we are in it.

and we arnt the only ones in country either. were these other countries also under bushes control?

they do use depleted uranium as a coating rambill, infact i just looked it up to make sure i wasn't wrong.

thanks for continuing to be condescending insult me for mixing up two presidents and assuming everything else i say is wrong. that's what i've noticed about people though. when someone can't make a good point, he/she attacks the person in question instead.

the UN allowed inspections. not the invasion. we did that on our own, without any support. in fact, the rest of the world thinks we're assholes for doing it, and several of them are gunning for us at this very moment. why do you think the terrorists are after us? why do you think north korea is making threats at us? we're definitely not without fault here, and i think bush is at the heart of the problem. yes, 9/11 happened before the war. but now we're giving them a reason to rally together and attack even stronger. that's pretty bad.

uh huh. that liberal/ communist doctrine is strong in this one. what your saying is just plain false. i lived it i was there. this business of the liberals rewriting history is the problem. if i say something enough times does it make it true? im not tying to bash you im hoping youll see that there IS another side of this, and its the true side.

king, that may well be true. never heard of that. its main property is that its 100 percent dense, which makes it both a great bullet and great armor also. The armor in the M1 HAS A LAYER OF du sandwitched between some other stuff. the DU IS MADE into a mesh like material, ABOUT 4" THICK. kinda like steel wool but woven together and used as armor. Penetrators are the darts they use to shoot thru tank armor, it is a dart wit fins moulded into it about an inch in dia, and 20 inches long. since it is so dense, several times denser than lead, it cuts thru conventional plating like butter.

haha... i think that's where you're wrong.

i'm a middle of the road independent, old enough to vote, and i have NO party ties. i am interested in the president's ability to run the country.

1) i think bush is an idiot. they did an IQ screen, and he scored a whopping 91, while bush senior got a 98 IQ. it runs in the family.

2) clinton had a 182 IQ.

here are two links for you, cuz you definitely wouldn't believe me otherwise.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bliq-bush.htm
http://www.csbsju.edu/uspp/Bush/Bush-IQ-Myth.html

ok, and straight off wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_UN_Security_Council_and_the_Iraq_war
On September 16, 2004 Kofi Annan, the Secretary General of the United Nations, speaking on the invasion, said, "I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN charter. From our point of view, from the charter point of view, it was illegal."

please, keep telling me i'm wrong. it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

ITS THE LIBS REWRITING HISTORY... SORRYABOUTIT.

yup rambill, that information you gave about the DU was right on.