Topic: The Death Penalty
don4169's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:34 PM
WACK'EM.
i have personally been responsible for a man being in levenworth and his brother being in a federal prison in california. they beat a military policeman to death with a steel pipe and got $1500.00. i and others chased them for a month and all they got was 30 years. one lawyer walked into federal court and said they would plead guilty as long as the death penalty wasn't an issue.
MY OPINION: you murder someone, you die.
i carry a gun legally and if you act wrong with me or someone/people i am with you may have a problem. other then work from which i retired in 95 i have not pulled my gun, but it is good to know i can.

seahawks's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:36 PM
dont get me goin again.!!! lol

seahawks's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:37 PM
let me wire m n fry m .!!!

vivalosdodgers's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:37 PM
come on sea, im holding the carrot out there just for you to grab it

seahawks's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:38 PM
i want more then carrot ya brat.!!! lol

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:39 PM
I used to not agree with it. The older I get, the more I see that the death penalty is fair in some cases. I just wish they could give the death penalty to rapists and child molesters. At least the murderers had the humanity to put their victims out of their misery.

don4169's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:39 PM
hey dodger.
am i out of line here??

seahawks's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:40 PM
no ones out of line with there opinion bro.!!!!!

don4169's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:42 PM
seahawk, what did i say you didn't agree with??
if you take a life them your breath should be taken fromyou.
only slower then the person you killed .

seahawks's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:45 PM
i agree with yur opinion bro, you take a life through vicious attack, murder etc, then i think they should pay with there life.

vivalosdodgers's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:46 PM
obsolutely not don!!! you have people like us who feel strong about it which is cool and then you have people who are not like us who oppose it and i guess thats cool. but thank god for freedom of speech. we're on this side of the fence and they are on the other side. if a person rapes a 3 yr. old, tortures them then decapitates them, why in the hell should that person live? and i dont want to hear let god decide, cause was it gods decision to allow that child to get what he/she had done to him/her???

seahawks's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:49 PM
but what bothers me is the people that say oh forgive forgive, yeah well if it was there family there child a friend etc, then see if they can find forgiveness, i think not.!!!!

vivalosdodgers's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:51 PM
hi-5 sea!!! now your rollin

seahawks's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:56 PM
well i dont wanna play judge jury executioner, but i see on the news little girls or anyone for that matter brutually murdered, and they have all the evidence, ie dna etc, and these monsters appeal appeal etc. just makes my blood boil because you know there gonna take yrs to finally see justice done.

no photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:56 PM
Just a few facts ........

Around 128 countries have abolished the death penalty in law or practice. On average, in the past decade more than three countries a year have abolished the death penalty for all crimes. Despite international human rights standards, some nations still execute people. Around the world, the death penalty is used as a tool of political repression and a means to forever silence political opponents or eliminate politically "troublesome" individuals.


The Death Penalty Is Not a Deterrent
A September 2000 New York Times survey found that during the last 20 years, the homicide rate in states with the death penalty has been 48 to 101 percent higher than in states without the death penalty.

FBI data showed that 10 of the 12 states without capital punishment have homicide rates below the national average.

The Bureau of Justice Statistics reports that the South repeatedly has the highest murder rate. In 1999, it was the only region with a murder rate above the national rate. The South accounts for 80% of executions. The Northeast, which accounts for less than 1% of all executions in the U.S., has the lowest murder rate.


The Death Penalty Claims Innocent Lives
Since 1973, more than 120 people have been released from death rows throughout the country due to evidence of their wrongful convictions. In 2003 alone, 10 innocent defendants were released from death row.


The Death Penalty Costs More

A 2003 legislative audit in Kansas found that the estimated cost of a death penalty case was 70% more than the cost of a comparable non-death penalty case. Death penalty case costs were counted through to execution (median cost $1.26 million). Non-death penalty case costs were counted through to the end of incarceration (median cost $740,000).
(December 2003 Survey by the Kansas Legislative Post Audit)
The estimated costs for the death penalty in New York since 1995 (when it was reinstated): $160 million, or approximately $23 million for each person sentenced to death. To date, no executions have been carried out.
(The Times Union, Sept. 22, 2003)
In Tennessee, death penalty trials cost an average of 48% more than the average cost of trials in which prosecutors seek life imprisonment.
(2004 Report from Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury Office of Research)



don4169's photo
Fri 07/20/07 11:56 PM
yea, my experience may be excessive in comparison, but if you can take a life, rape, molest, you should die in my mind. fortunately i'm not a judge.
as we get older we naturally get harder. i still love my rock and roll new and old, but physically assaulting a person is harder for me to accept. hell when i was young we all had fights and a week later we drank beer together.
now, you ask me out i tell you you don't want to go there, but again i wiegh the same thing i did when i graduated high school and carry myself that way. i don't fight, i go for taking you out as fast as i can. they taught me that.

vivalosdodgers's photo
Sat 07/21/07 12:00 AM
DON YOU THE MAN BABY!!!! I LOVE YOUR COMMENTS. YOU ROCK!!!

seahawks's photo
Sat 07/21/07 12:02 AM
don yur ol school like me. !!!! cheers

vivalosdodgers's photo
Sat 07/21/07 12:03 AM
THERE ARE STILL A GOOD FEW OF US LEFT

don4169's photo
Sat 07/21/07 12:08 AM
the arguement isn't about cost. hell if we all did like texas and put in a express lane the cost would dramaticly drop.
if you would have stood in the town square of riyhad saudi arabia on a friday, the holy day and saw a hand chopped off for stealing snd the family left to deal with that the death penalty as we know it is kind.
what person that you know of that was murdered died peacefully?
the one that was buried alive and fell asleep before they died?
they didn't go peacefully.
why should the ones that did that go peacefully of old age in there beds asleep. wack'em.