That too, but I was just quoting King James' version. Since that seems to be a world wide favorite.

You know King James, right? Man who loved propaganda? Man who took translations from du Bartas, in particular the idea of Urania; which later would go and become the Christian's modern day, Holy Spirit representation? Man that sought to make his word higher than that of the Pope? The same guy who sought to control the media; which in those days was... what again? Right, right, literature.

James also faced repeated allegations of being homosexual; but later it was discovered, he was simply bi-sexual.

So, who spat on the bible? Was it really the homosexuals?

One does wonder.

That one verse nullifies everything you posted earlier and all you do is offer an editorial?



You're right, we're done here...

First, hadn't noticed.
Second, how does that nullify anything?
Third, you proved nothing.

Editorial?
Ha! YOU PROVED MY POINT.

..you quoted the bible to nullify the fact I'm saying you can't use the bible as a reference; thus all you believe is now based on what..?

If you refrain from the bible as your sole reference; which it is all you have, what have you then? A faith started by what? Air?

You made no sense.

lol, I don't follow your rules...


So, tell me what 2+2 is without using math.

Exactly what I expected for those without brains to think for themself at how ridiculous they sound.

You'd have to be taught math. This would require a math book. Such that is written by reason, by common sense; by science physics; what have you.

Unless you'd like to question the exist of Einstein.

So, that comparison is moot.

Way to give up on your God so fast. Typical Christian.

Have fun with that. Next? Anyone with a brain?



Yeah.. I can go emote crazy too.

I love a good rant, it shows a lack of intelligence...



Don't hurt your keyboard, k?

LMFAO

Right.

Ahem.

Next?

Seriously? I know you can do better than.. whatever that is.

And I know that you can't do better than that...

I already did.
Feebles minds can't handle it.
So you resort to your pointless attempts to upset and avoid the question at hand, which you, my good sir, will never be able to answer.
Can't do better?
You're so indeed right. Because I've already reached the top.

So, for your own sake, stop making yourself look stupid. Seriously.

What did you answer? Nothing. You proved me further right.

So get over it. You lost.
Move on.
Save yourself the embarrassment.

Just saying...

Sweet!



Two incoherant rants in one day!

Again..
..prove my point.

Thanks!

Ahhh, I get it.

Your point was to prove how feeble minded and stupid you are...



C'mon, post the last word. Doesn't matter what is though, right?
Last post = victory!!!

For someone to win.
There needs to be a 'battle'.
You haven't done that.

All you've done is prove to me why so many said,

"Don't bother, he's a flipping idiot that swears he's always right. But he's just a (censored)."

I was like, nah, he can't be that bad..

I hate when I am wrong, which I will admit..

But like I keep telling you..
Thinking your right, doesn't make you it.

Just face it already.
You lost 50 times over.

Grasping at straws, and can't even come up with a comeback.

Have fun with that.

Go have a slushie.

Thank you come again.

I know you hate when you're wrong, that's why you are getting so upset...


So tell ya what, I'll answer your original rant without using the Bible if you'll answer 2+2 without using math... And if you think your "rules" are logical, look up "intelectual honesty".






You might wanna bring a ladder to climb outta that hole you dug.

Upset? LOL
Yet I claim to know everything.. I'm seriously ROFL.

Second.

Your math problem.

Here's the problem with your question.

If you wanted me to answer a question like that, why would I even feel the need to? If there is no 'math' then there is no such thing as '2' to add it to another '2'. Therefore, in an non-existence of math why would I feel that this is even a question? I wouldn't know there is 2 of something, let alone 2 more of it.

So, therefore, your question, in itself has no grounds to be solved, because without the concept of math, it is merely a trick question in which cannot be answered because the question would have never been asked, because, my friend, math doesn't exist.

Therefore, religion wouldn't exist, because there would be no faith; after all, faith in nothing, is what again?

Explaining this concept further; the church, the Pope, they wouldn't need to exist because either God would be in our face OR he wouldn't exist. There'd be no question. Correct?

In a world without math and in a world without faith, you'd need not ask such questions because you'd have no grounds to make said question. Faith, furthermore, wouldn't exist as a concept.

The number 2 could be referred to as crumblidextreos and that would represent having 'two' of something. Faith would only be a name given to a pop star.

So, in retrospect, what you are trying to tell me is this:

Math doesn't exist because it was invented by man.
God doesn't exist because it was invented by man.

That's what you're going for?

Nice.

OK n o w , n i c e a n d s l o w f o r t h o s e w h o h a v e a h a r d t i m e w i t h w o r d s...


You posted verses from the bible and expect others to not be allowed to post verses from the Bible.

I posed a math question and asked that you not use math to answer it...


D o y o u g e t i t n o w ?

Oh, so you are still stuck way back there???

Now I get it no wonder.. Man, your mind is slow.

Well, first off, let me say. I did answer your question, and you've yet to answer mine, but I'll play along a little longer.

You see, I posted quotes to show that they can mean whatever you want them to and, you can translate them however you want; but the overall meaning is irrelevant, because said quotes all come from a book written by man, and not necessarily the word of God. Therefore, I wanted an answer as to how you hold faith in something, like God, with your only proof of his existence and story being written by man.

I was answered by quoting the bible, so, thus I quoted the bible to some verses that, if not explained, can have darker meanings; i.e., killing your children, or owning slaves.

My question, which you've failed to even grasp let alone answer, had nothing to do with the quotes, as they were just a comparison to a response I had received. Thus, why I asked for an answer in which someone would give me without referring to a book written by man.

Let me see.. How can I make this as simple as possible.....

You say you have 'faith'.

Faith is to know without seeing; or believing without seeing.

I want to know what makes you so sure that your 'faith' is justified if the bible didn't exist; how would you explain what 'you see in everything'. Just because you know the bible inside and out doesn't mean you know 'God', because those aren't Gods words; after all, he isn't known as an author, is he?

I showed various points as to why the bible is so ridiculous to believe and I understand not why churches exist when all they do is spread the word of man and a God they themselves had created.

Make sense now?

I'll give you a hand out of the hole, if you want?

Oh, and pst, I answered your math question without using math.

d o y o u g e t i t n o w ?

Slow? Man, I've lapped you 7 times now, going on 8, 9 and 10...







Not true, you wanted to know why you should believe that "stuff"...

You said: "So, without resorting to your infamous book of fiction; can someone, anyone, lay out an argument as to why anyone should believe this stuff?"

In case you don't remember (or if you want to deny this fact later), the "stuff" you were refering to was verses from the Bible. I rightly refused to honor your request even though you didn't specify the "Bible". (you seem to forget that the Bible is considered a historical document, not an "infamous book of fiction")






Wrong again... You quoted those first...

You responded to my one verse with an editorial about King James and homosexuals. (a transparent deflection tactic)






See above, I grasped your question fine. Unless of course you wish to change it now?
And again with your restrictions of not referring to a book...?

Do you remember these two lines from the post of yours to which I responded?

1. "Oh, please, let's continue to QUOTE a BOOK."
and
2. "Now, you can go ahead, quote scripture all freaking day long but it boils down to the simple fact: God did NOT write the Bible."

I'm not claiming God wrote it, are you???







Wrong again, you're describing "blind" faith...






Was this the question you thought you asked which I "never" answered?








Ummm, I guess you haven't read many of posts in the religion forums.
I'm all about exposing the lies and errors, mistranslations, whatever. There is probrably nothing "shocking" that you could show me about the Bible that I do not already know about.






I think I'm good there buddy.

Tell you what though. Since this particular post was fairly civil with only a few ad-homs, I'll give you a free "out".


Ignore all of my points above and state your question.

If it's about God only, I'll not use the Bible.
If it's about the bible, then I will use the Bible. Fair enough?

If you wish to debate my points, verify my facts before you respond please...