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I hate rolls and expectations. Just let people be who they are. Don't expect them to fill some roll. Damned straight! Veto on the labels por favor. ..but sometimes roles are good.. Like you play a french maid.. who's been naughty. I play the rich millionaire who delivers punishment.  
Not all roles are bad.. *can already see someone whipping out Websters for this reply* That's just yo fantasy Sooooooooo? :] |
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Darling. What's not to get? Men and Women are different. That's all. When a Man or a Woman acknowledges that....Great. When we PRETEND we are all the same...we are living a lie. I am merely seeking a man who understands....men and women are different. In spite of that, they are the same. I get it! Men and women are different but in spite of their differences they are the same. Makes perfect sense... |
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The difference between men and women.
http://www.blessed2bless.us/by-others/difference-between-men-and-women.html Seriously, though people, men or women, need to just be allowed to be who they are. We may be different in many fundamental ways, but in the end we all experience the same things for the most part and are trying to become our own individual selves. I think we have moved past the idea of roles in society. Maybe not everyone, but even those groups are slowly disappearing. |
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When you appreciate and respect each other and each set of skills.............
There should be no.....Conflict! If I understood correctly. |
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Edited by
navygirl
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Fri 01/06/12 10:58 PM
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So. My question is this...Is it possible to have this type of relationship? I mean-Traditional roles while having our own opinions-without conflict????? Not entirely sure what you mean by 'traditional' roles. As in, man goes to work, woman maintains house and family? Men are good at some things. Women are good at other things. Sometimes-their gifts cross paths...sometimes they have the same skills...but....make no mistake....MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT THE SAME.I merely want to bring 2 talents 2 THE FOREFRONT. And...I want to find a man who 'gets" what I am saying. Had one before...and unfortunately he passed away...way before his time.................I am upbeat and in the way, and on the way! I am not a traditional woman by any means and yep the war starts. I get the "its a man's job" line and it pisses me off. I don't want any man outlining what I can or can't do as a woman. I did a man's job for 20 years in the military and I should be able to do what I want as should he. I think if we can't work together equally; then don't waste my time. I am not going to make a guy a sandwich while he does my renos. That is insulting to me as a person. |
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So. My question is this...Is it possible to have this type of relationship? I mean-Traditional roles while having our own opinions-without conflict????? Not entirely sure what you mean by 'traditional' roles. As in, man goes to work, woman maintains house and family? Men are good at some things. Women are good at other things. Sometimes-their gifts cross paths...sometimes they have the same skills...but....make no mistake....MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT THE SAME.I merely want to bring 2 talents 2 THE FOREFRONT. And...I want to find a man who 'gets" what I am saying. Had one before...and unfortunately he passed away...way before his time.................I am upbeat and in the way, and on the way! I am not a traditional woman by any means and yep the war starts. I get the "its a man's job" line and it pisses me off. I don't want any man outlining what I can or can't do as a woman. I did a man's job for 20 years in the military and I should be able to do what I want as should he. I think if we can't work together equally; then don't waste me time. I am not going to make a guy a sandwich while he does my renos. That is insulting to me as a person. |
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Forgive me for insulting you. That was not my intent. Let's just face some cold hard facts...You're a woman and I'm a woman. We are not Men. Making a sandwich does not make me less of who I am....nor does it make the man less of who he is! It's a gesture. I've had several female/male relatives in every war since the this country was founded.....if they had to play passive/dominant/invisible...so be it!
My point was-why can't I bask in an old fashioned traditional role? Pretending to be as tough as a man isn't working for ME. Again, forgive me for offending you. |
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Edited by
navygirl
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Fri 01/06/12 11:05 PM
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Forgive me for insulting you. That was not my intent. Let's just face some cold hard facts...You're a woman and I'm a woman. We are not Men. Making a sandwich does not make me less of who I am....nor does it make the man less of who he is! It's a gesture. I've had several female/male relatives in every war since the this country was founded.....if they had to play passive/dominant/invisible...so be it! My point was-why can't I bask in an old fashioned traditional role? Pretending to be as tough as a man isn't working for ME. Again, forgive me for offending you. No no, you didn't insult or offend me. I just get offended when a man treats me like that. I think you can certainly bask in a traditional role and I am sure many men would love that in a woman. I was just saying that wouldn't work for me. I suppose I am used to the military way of life and having to take a man's role that it is too hard to adjust. Don't get me wrong, I would take a man's help but it has to be an equal partnership with me. I realize that it doesn't work for all women. My apologies for the misunderstanding. 
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So. My question is this...Is it possible to have this type of relationship? I mean-Traditional roles while having our own opinions-without conflict????? possibilities are endless, it is possible to have traditional roles and our own opinions, particularly if our own opinions are in line with traditional roles,,, |
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Forgive me for insulting you. That was not my intent. Let's just face some cold hard facts...You're a woman and I'm a woman. We are not Men. Making a sandwich does not make me less of who I am....nor does it make the man less of who he is! It's a gesture. I've had several female/male relatives in every war since the this country was founded.....if they had to play passive/dominant/invisible...so be it! My point was-why can't I bask in an old fashioned traditional role? Pretending to be as tough as a man isn't working for ME. Again, forgive me for offending you. No no, you didn't insult or offend me. I just get offended when a man treats me like that. I think you can certainly bask in a traditional role and I am sure many men would love that in a woman. I was just saying that wouldn't work for me. I suppose I am used to the military way of life and having to take a man's role that it is too hard to adjust. Don't get me wrong, I would take a man's help but it has to be an equal partnership with me. I realize that it doesn't work for all women. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
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Forgive me for insulting you. That was not my intent. Let's just face some cold hard facts...You're a woman and I'm a woman. We are not Men. Making a sandwich does not make me less of who I am....nor does it make the man less of who he is! It's a gesture. I've had several female/male relatives in every war since the this country was founded.....if they had to play passive/dominant/invisible...so be it! My point was-why can't I bask in an old fashioned traditional role? Pretending to be as tough as a man isn't working for ME. Again, forgive me for offending you. That is YOU ALLOWING THAT to transform into a consciousness. NOT HIM..It is WE who MAKE OURSELVES,,NOT ANOTHER. I could NEVER be YOU,,nor YOU I..and WE both have to know where WE stand on life and US,,and IN THAT,,,is where MANY separate to be with someone who is NOT their ONE, to share a life with. Can ANYONE put a dog and cat together and expect THEM to be that same as if they were BOTH of THE SAME? Your living on Earth and all time spent here,,is with YOU making life continue to go on..and if your feeling that you have to be someone else,,to be loved or admired,,then ITS YOU WHO ARE DECEIVING THEM,,Not them deceiving you... LIVE TO JUST BE YOU,,and BE HAPPY,,and LOVE YOURSELF,,Then,,the RIGHT MAN,,will find you,,,AS YOU,,,and LOVE YOU FOR THAT.. |
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Hey, Navy Girl-thanks for understanding what I'm saying. I realize I was kinda vague from the outset...but-I was curious if other women had experienced what I was feeling.....that's all. take care, friend and have a super great New Year!
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Hey, Navy Girl-thanks for understanding what I'm saying. I realize I was kinda vague from the outset...but-I was curious if other women had experienced what I was feeling.....that's all. take care, friend and have a super great New Year!
Thanks and I hope 2012 will be the year that you find the man you are looking for. I will cross my fingers for you. Best of luck and may all your dreams come true.
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Forgive me for insulting you. That was not my intent. Let's just face some cold hard facts...You're a woman and I'm a woman. We are not Men. Making a sandwich does not make me less of who I am....nor does it make the man less of who he is! It's a gesture. I've had several female/male relatives in every war since the this country was founded.....if they had to play passive/dominant/invisible...so be it! My point was-why can't I bask in an old fashioned traditional role? Pretending to be as tough as a man isn't working for ME. Again, forgive me for offending you. That is YOU ALLOWING THAT to transform into a consciousness. NOT HIM..It is WE who MAKE OURSELVES,,NOT ANOTHER. I could NEVER be YOU,,nor YOU I..and WE both have to know where WE stand on life and US,,and IN THAT,,,is where MANY separate to be with someone who is NOT their ONE, to share a life with. Can ANYONE put a dog and cat together and expect THEM to be that same as if they were BOTH of THE SAME? Your living on Earth and all time spent here,,is with YOU making life continue to go on..and if your feeling that you have to be someone else,,to be loved or admired,,then ITS YOU WHO ARE DECEIVING THEM,,Not them deceiving you... LIVE TO JUST BE YOU,,and BE HAPPY,,and LOVE YOURSELF,,Then,,the RIGHT MAN,,will find you,,,AS YOU,,,and LOVE YOU FOR THAT.. Sometimes, we fake it to make it. Have you put on a tie as a kid for a job? Padded the resume? I mean.....so many times in life-we feel like crap...but we put on a brave face....I don't deceive anybody. but at times, I have faked left and faked right just because I didn't want to upset the applecart....that's all. Nowadays, I live to be happy and free. |
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U r ri8 women n men r change from eachother , even if u talk in deep then u can feel that women r also change from other women,
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Hey, Navy Girl-thanks for understanding what I'm saying. I realize I was kinda vague from the outset...but-I was curious if other women had experienced what I was feeling.....that's all. take care, friend and have a super great New Year!
everyday girl, everyday love to meet that guy with whom I can ENJOY my feminine differences and appreciate his masculine ones,,, |
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U r ri8 women n men r change from eachother , even if u talk in deep then u can feel that women r also change from other women, Thank you for recognizing people change. Mena and women are different...and gues what?????????? That's OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Forgive me for insulting you. That was not my intent. Let's just face some cold hard facts...You're a woman and I'm a woman. We are not Men. Making a sandwich does not make me less of who I am....nor does it make the man less of who he is! It's a gesture. I've had several female/male relatives in every war since the this country was founded.....if they had to play passive/dominant/invisible...so be it! My point was-why can't I bask in an old fashioned traditional role? Pretending to be as tough as a man isn't working for ME. Again, forgive me for offending you. That is YOU ALLOWING THAT to transform into a consciousness. NOT HIM..It is WE who MAKE OURSELVES,,NOT ANOTHER. I could NEVER be YOU,,nor YOU I..and WE both have to know where WE stand on life and US,,and IN THAT,,,is where MANY separate to be with someone who is NOT their ONE, to share a life with. Can ANYONE put a dog and cat together and expect THEM to be that same as if they were BOTH of THE SAME? Your living on Earth and all time spent here,,is with YOU making life continue to go on..and if your feeling that you have to be someone else,,to be loved or admired,,then ITS YOU WHO ARE DECEIVING THEM,,Not them deceiving you... LIVE TO JUST BE YOU,,and BE HAPPY,,and LOVE YOURSELF,,Then,,the RIGHT MAN,,will find you,,,AS YOU,,,and LOVE YOU FOR THAT.. Sometimes, we fake it to make it. Have you put on a tie as a kid for a job? Padded the resume? I mean.....so many times in life-we feel like crap...but we put on a brave face....I don't deceive anybody. but at times, I have faked left and faked right just because I didn't want to upset the applecart....that's all. Nowadays, I live to be happy and free. BUT,,we cannot STAY,,in that as it only be one GIVING.. BOTH GIVE because BOTH contribute to that same love,,if only will works to KEEP IT,,,then it will at some point,,still come to its end.. ANYTHING WITH LOVE IN ITS MAKING,,,requires GIVE AND TAKE.. And for THAT to all work,,the closer a couple comes to be AS EQUAL to each other in BOTH,,,The stronger their hearts will come together as ONE... We can ALL take a LOT,,from our other, IF our other GIVES US BACK what we gave-up.. But NEVER shall two people BE,,ACT,or FEEL their exact SAME all the time so differences,,and faked left and faked rights,,will always be a presence within them and their relationship. To ME,,,THATS just part of LOVE.. Their a BIG difference in asking,,and telling. Also in saying ok,, but feeling discouraged the other has to also NOT want you to go agaisnt YOUR SPIRIT of YOU, Only through communicating THAT to each other can you feel happy in heart of it being asked,, |
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Forgive me for insulting you. That was not my intent. Let's just face some cold hard facts...You're a woman and I'm a woman. We are not Men. Making a sandwich does not make me less of who I am....nor does it make the man less of who he is! It's a gesture. I've had several female/male relatives in every war since the this country was founded.....if they had to play passive/dominant/invisible...so be it! My point was-why can't I bask in an old fashioned traditional role? Pretending to be as tough as a man isn't working for ME. Again, forgive me for offending you. That is YOU ALLOWING THAT to transform into a consciousness. NOT HIM..It is WE who MAKE OURSELVES,,NOT ANOTHER. I could NEVER be YOU,,nor YOU I..and WE both have to know where WE stand on life and US,,and IN THAT,,,is where MANY separate to be with someone who is NOT their ONE, to share a life with. Can ANYONE put a dog and cat together and expect THEM to be that same as if they were BOTH of THE SAME? Your living on Earth and all time spent here,,is with YOU making life continue to go on..and if your feeling that you have to be someone else,,to be loved or admired,,then ITS YOU WHO ARE DECEIVING THEM,,Not them deceiving you... LIVE TO JUST BE YOU,,and BE HAPPY,,and LOVE YOURSELF,,Then,,the RIGHT MAN,,will find you,,,AS YOU,,,and LOVE YOU FOR THAT.. Sometimes, we fake it to make it. Have you put on a tie as a kid for a job? Padded the resume? I mean.....so many times in life-we feel like crap...but we put on a brave face....I don't deceive anybody. but at times, I have faked left and faked right just because I didn't want to upset the applecart....that's all. Nowadays, I live to be happy and free. BUT,,we cannot STAY,,in that as it only be one GIVING.. BOTH GIVE because BOTH contribute to that same love,,if only will works to KEEP IT,,,then it will at some point,,still come to its end.. ANYTHING WITH LOVE IN ITS MAKING,,,requires GIVE AND TAKE.. And for THAT to all work,,the closer a couple comes to be AS EQUAL to each other in BOTH,,,The stronger their hearts will come together as ONE... We can ALL take a LOT,,from our other, IF our other GIVES US BACK what we gave-up.. But NEVER shall two people BE,,ACT,or FEEL their exact SAME all the time so differences,,and faked left and faked rights,,will always be a presence within them and their relationship. To ME,,,THATS just part of LOVE.. Their a BIG difference in asking,,and telling. Also in saying ok,, but feeling discouraged the other has to also NOT want you to go agaisnt YOUR SPIRIT of YOU, Only through communicating THAT to each other can you feel happy in heart of it being asked,, True.True.True. |
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