I used 700 million as your estimate because you wrote:



Shouldn't be too hard to find out what we actually paid congress in 2010, though.

Plus, let's not forget you gotta pay ALL them secret service agents.
I think it's an outrageous number, either way, and far, far, far too much.

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Basically..

I don't think ANY politician.
Not even the president.
Deserves to make more than a Nurse, Doctor, or those who in today's society ACTUALLY dedicate their lives to helping others.

I don't believe they deserve million dollar vacations all across the world.

I don't believe they deserve a beautiful mansion, up on the hills, living retirement out like they just busted their a** the past 50-60 years to further aid the community.

I swear that every politician, at one point, has whipped their a** on the Declaration of Independence.

You're right. I don't vote.
Not because I don't want to.
Or not because I'm just that anti-political..
...but while you see 'choices' I do not.

Obama vs. McCain

Really?

That's what you're going with?

Bush vs. what was it? Kerry?

It's truly sad when I see an election end, a president announced, and I can almost 'theorize' why he won.

Back to the topic...

Drug test away.
For a measly 60* bucks I can pass your test in an hour. Give me a weeks notice and I can pass it with $9.99*, and if I get a weeks notice every time you want a sample; that 9.99* will last me a few months. Minuscule to how much I'll make doing absolutely nothing.

Therefore..

My point stands. With or without the bill, it won't stop the addictions or the spending on it.

So, if you are going to discuss this, I'd leave that point out, because I believe it's entirely irrelevant.

I think the idea of 'it's attacking the poor' is a rather weak statement. Social Security, Retirement, Disability; in my mind and opinion, are far different than mere Welfare. I do believe you had to work for the those three, am I right?

Not to mention, I can't picture a 90 year old pulling rips off a bong, though that would be a hilarious sight.

* - Prices may vary by state and availability. :D

your welfare department SUCKS and doesnt do their job in that case

but even with that, owning a car doesnt stop someone from being POOR

cars can be paid off and people can be poor, all in the same lifetime because crap happens

the guidelines for receiving assistance REQUIRE that people be at or below the poverty line,,
so its a pretty fair assessment

I doubt he was on welfare WHILE he was a multi millionaire

not if the main complaint is how much money it costs, because implementing such a program would dwarf what it already costing

LMFAO

His one CD has his face on his Food Stamp Card dated the same year the album came out. :O

That was amidst the Wu-Tang Clan era. Prior and Before.

HE LITERALLY WAS QUOTED SAYING:

"I got it just to prove there's loop holes. Now, 'scuse me, ima go take my cash assistance an' buy me some 40's n weed."

..how do you pictures on here? I'll find it and show it to you.

he was an intelligent crook, I Didnt know

but its not set up for that and I imagine he was able to do so by DEFRAUDING and not by receiving it legitimately

The man pulled up to the Welfare Office, in a Stretch Limousine.

He walked out with his acceptance papers.

End of story.

And they say pot makes you stupid.

I believe in reality what he did was this:

Aside from living in his run-down shack of house instead of the big life like the rest of the 'game'; ODB took all he made and put it into a Savings Account in his son's name; an account only he could access, until his son would turn 18.

Point?

They had no 'proof' of income, because 'musical artists' don't have a 'yearly' salary. His own bank account was running on fumes. Tack that with the house he lived in; that's why he was 'accepted'.

However...

You can't tell me they didn't know 'who' he was.
Especially after the man shows up in a 750,000 custom stretch limousine.

pot doesnt make people stupid, thats fallacy

pot ABUSE might

the incident at the office was BEFORE welfare reform

since then, people dont go in and pick up a check,,,

people that go in arent typically monitored for which vehicle brings them in, but have their papers and documents verified instead,,,

if they are eligible, the money comes on a card

I dont know, sometimes popular people arent truly known by 'everyone, especially when they use a stage name and have a very 'average' appearance off stage,,,

Trust me Harmony..
He abused it.
Like Vick to a Rottweiler; ODB was to weed.

I believe he probably did, being that it was in the NINETIES when it would have been easier to do so,,,

His signature clearly read, " Ol' Dirty Bastard'

Either way, we are waaaayyyy off topic now, lol.

..are you saying it's not these days?

pictures, especially in media, can be altered, edited and faked

I have a cousin who makes a living doing just that

I have pictures of me with celebrities too

but I find it funny they would have accepted the name ol dirty bastard being that birth certificate with birth name is required

unless of course, he legally changed his name to ol dirty bastard and brought documentation of proof it was his legal name

yes, I am

welfare reform made it much more difficult, still not impossible, but much more difficult to commit much of the types of fraud committed before,,,

Oh, you're speaking of the fraud, lol.

I thought you meant abusing Cannibas.

nvm :D