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Topic: Conspiracies.......
teadipper's photo
Tue 01/03/12 06:24 AM
I have a playmate I met on here who is UBER smart and also UBER paranoid and he is really into conspiracies..... He's super intellectual and entertaining...... You know me I humor people.....

However, I tell him I could never ever be with him because the stuff he reads and believes about the gov't. etc. Makes me want to crawl under the covers trembling while clutching my cat and a loaded shot gun and scares me so bad I would be afraid out of fear I might accidentally shoot the Avon lady.

Just wondering how many of you are into these conspiracies and how many of you really believe them and if you do believe them how do you sleep at night?

I tell this guy if he ever starts posting, he is going to scare the heck out of people.

Kleisto's photo
Tue 01/03/12 06:33 AM
I for one do, which probably will come as a surprise to very few who know me or have seen me post here lol.

As for how do I sleep at night......I sleep with one eye open. :tongue: Just kidding.....or am I......no really just kidding lol.

It can be hard really balancing what I have come to know vs. living my life too, and at times I have been pretty depressed about it all. I'm trying to get myself going forward though now despite it all, but it is a challenge to be sure.

Just have to remind myself that as much as they can take, they can't take my soul, my spirit away. That goes for all of us really, we'll always have that no matter what they do.


s1owhand's photo
Tue 01/03/12 06:37 AM
Your impulse to run and hide is valid. Go with your gut!

laugh

Conspiracy theories share many common attributes. They are all
conjecture with no evidence. There is no reason to fear conspiracy
theories - they are paper tigers.

Most of them revolve around various ancient recycled themes.

Read all about them here and dispel any lingering doubts.
Base your reality on demonstrable evidence and never on innuendo.

And stay away from the conspiracy theorists whose warped and
unprovable world of shadows and fantasy should only scare themselves!

laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

Kleisto's photo
Tue 01/03/12 06:43 AM
Cause we all know wiki is so credible.........ohwell

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/03/12 06:45 AM

One persons dream is anothers reality...

To beieve something you base on facts that satisfy you may not be sufficient to satisfy another, thereby it is one "theory", while it may be shared by many.

All belief theory is based on something of note or merit.

Like religion, it is personal faith which developes your opinions, and research which provides things you may deem fact.

I suggest using the internet before the SOPA bill in congress and the new NDAA law removes your right and ability to find it there.

These are both FACT!

teadipper's photo
Tue 01/03/12 06:46 AM

Your impulse to run and hide is valid. Go with your gut!

laugh

Conspiracy theories share many common attributes. They are all
conjecture with no evidence. There is no reason to fear conspiracy
theories - they are paper tigers.

Most of them revolve around various ancient recycled themes.

Read all about them here and dispel any lingering doubts.
Base your reality on demonstrable evidence and never on innuendo.

And stay away from the conspiracy theorists whose warped and
unprovable world of shadows and fantasy should only scare themselves!

laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory


Okay here is a Terri theory. Many of my friends are a reformed something. I tell them I do not care what they did in the past because I love the friend that they are today and however they got to this mind set is what made them who they are and I don't really need to know unless they are with me and can't get a job because of their record or have an STD because of the past........

Okay humor me on this jump............

Okay, let's suppose all these conspiracies are real. Just pretend. Does that change my daily reality? I mean think of everything happening in the world at all times. Does any of it really change the fact that I need to get up eat breakfast, take a shower, feed the dog and cat, scoop the cat box, do the laundry and go about my day?? If WWIII broke out somewhere in Asia RIGHT NOW other than concern, how would that truly affect me other than the economy, etc. None of these conspiracies, etc. really impact my daily life. Most of us are that way. We live in our own little sphere of influence. Is it really important that we know everything? What makes you think you can know everything? We are human not omnipotent or omnipresent........

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/03/12 06:50 AM

I have a playmate I met on here who is UBER smart and also UBER paranoid and he is really into conspiracies..... He's super intellectual and entertaining...... You know me I humor people.....

However, I tell him I could never ever be with him because the stuff he reads and believes about the gov't. etc. Makes me want to crawl under the covers trembling while clutching my cat and a loaded shot gun and scares me so bad I would be afraid out of fear I might accidentally shoot the Avon lady.

Just wondering how many of you are into these conspiracies and how many of you really believe them and if you do believe them how do you sleep at night?

I tell this guy if he ever starts posting, he is going to scare the heck out of people.



I think even a broken clock is right twice a day. I think the internet exposes us to more misinformation posing as fact than we have ever had before.


so, I think 9/10 conspiracy theories are paranoid stretches of reality, and 1/10 is probably true.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/03/12 06:52 AM

Your impulse to run and hide is valid. Go with your gut!

laugh

Conspiracy theories share many common attributes. They are all
conjecture with no evidence. There is no reason to fear conspiracy
theories - they are paper tigers.

Most of them revolve around various ancient recycled themes.

Read all about them here and dispel any lingering doubts.
Base your reality on demonstrable evidence and never on innuendo.

And stay away from the conspiracy theorists whose warped and
unprovable world of shadows and fantasy should only scare themselves!

laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory


Hey buddy...... One more theory not to be construed as fact laugh

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/03/12 06:56 AM


so, I think 9/10 conspiracy theories are paranoid stretches of reality, and 1/10 is probably true.


I believe the odds to be a little more equal based on laws of average ..... both are theories laugh

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:03 AM


Your impulse to run and hide is valid. Go with your gut!

laugh

Conspiracy theories share many common attributes. They are all
conjecture with no evidence. There is no reason to fear conspiracy
theories - they are paper tigers.

Most of them revolve around various ancient recycled themes.

Read all about them here and dispel any lingering doubts.
Base your reality on demonstrable evidence and never on innuendo.

And stay away from the conspiracy theorists whose warped and
unprovable world of shadows and fantasy should only scare themselves!

laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory


Okay here is a Terri theory. Many of my friends are a reformed something. I tell them I do not care what they did in the past because I love the friend that they are today and however they got to this mind set is what made them who they are and I don't really need to know unless they are with me and can't get a job because of their record or have an STD because of the past........

Okay humor me on this jump............

Okay, let's suppose all these conspiracies are real. Just pretend. Does that change my daily reality? I mean think of everything happening in the world at all times. Does any of it really change the fact that I need to get up eat breakfast, take a shower, feed the dog and cat, scoop the cat box, do the laundry and go about my day?? If WWIII broke out somewhere in Asia RIGHT NOW other than concern, how would that truly affect me other than the economy, etc. None of these conspiracies, etc. really impact my daily life. Most of us are that way. We live in our own little sphere of influence. Is it really important that we know everything? What makes you think you can know everything? We are human not omnipotent or omnipresent........



IM with ya there sister

IF I have read it or heard about it somewhere, you can bet that somewhere else someone has said or written the exact opposite

I gotta look at what happens around me and what I feel, from my own epxeriences, and what is the likely truth about whats happens that I have no PROOF of other than what someone else has relayed through speaking or writing,,,

Kleisto's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:03 AM

Okay, let's suppose all these conspiracies are real. Just pretend. Does that change my daily reality? I mean think of everything happening in the world at all times. Does any of it really change the fact that I need to get up eat breakfast, take a shower, feed the dog and cat, scoop the cat box, do the laundry and go about my day?? If WWIII broke out somewhere in Asia RIGHT NOW other than concern, how would that truly affect me other than the economy, etc. None of these conspiracies, etc. really impact my daily life. Most of us are that way. We live in our own little sphere of influence. Is it really important that we know everything? What makes you think you can know everything? We are human not omnipotent or omnipresent........


The problem is when you put some of these together particularly with regards to our rights and the removal of them, they start to effect our day to day life. A war overseas maybe by itself doesn't so much, but other things including perhaps fallout from that war (like Iraq for example) do. The thing about it is, it's all done so subtlety that those not paying attention will not notice it till it is too late like the frog in a pot of slowly heating water. By the time it realizes it's in hot water, it can no longer jump out and thus it boils to death.

The same thing applies here. It's all been such a slow process that we haven't even noticed it happening. Now that some are starting to.....we're so far gone that it's almost too late to go back. It's quite ingenius really.

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:07 AM
people have always 'started' to notice

I remember the same type of panic when we went to iraq the first time

I have read about and talked to those who lived through the same panic when people were 'told' by their government they couldnt discriminate


the same panic, im sure, when the south were no longer 'permitted' to have the slaves they wanted,,,,



life is full of things that go our way and things that dont, most of it is growing pains and the world keeps spinning

some of it is proposal for unsteady foundation that will not sustain family or community and we fight for change,,,



we just gotta choose which is which,,,

Kleisto's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:12 AM

people have always 'started' to notice


The whole problem is they are drowned out by the majority as being crazy, crackpots, conspiracy theorists and any other name you can think of. But they are the ones telling the truth.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:12 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 01/03/12 07:20 AM
To disavow the beliefs of another as a conspiracy theory, when most admit there is no "proof" to either belief.... simply leaves bias as the outcome.

Both may be arguable, neither provable.

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:19 AM


people have always 'started' to notice


The whole problem is they are drowned out by the majority as being crazy, crackpots, conspiracy theorists and any other name you can think of. But they are the ones telling the truth.



yes it is true, since the world began, we have been closer everyday to the end of it,,,


not so verifiable, which collection of actions, inactions, laws, or personal choices we can hold responsible for such an end,,,,,


msharmony's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:20 AM

To disavow the beliefs of another as a conspiracy theory, when most admit there is no "proof" to either belief.... simply leaves bias as the outcome.




not really, conspiracy just means that people have conspired together to do something and a theory is something not proven

so conspiracy theory is not disavowing anything, but is the definition fo something that has not been 'proven' regarding someones belief that a large group has conspired to do wrong,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:30 AM


To disavow the beliefs of another as a conspiracy theory, when most admit there is no "proof" to either belief.... simply leaves bias as the outcome.




not really, conspiracy just means that people have conspired together to do something and a theory is something not proven

so conspiracy theory is not disavowing anything, but is the definition fo something that has not been 'proven' regarding someones belief that a large group has conspired to do wrong,,,


conspiracy [kənˈspɪrəsɪ]
n pl -cies
1. a secret plan or agreement to carry out an illegal or harmful act, esp with political motivation; plot
2. the act of making such plans in secret

The OP spoke of conspiracy theories....... Facts for anything to base a truth on is held in "secret" by the gov't, therefore any conjecture, without fact, for either argument is a conspiracy theory.

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:33 AM



To disavow the beliefs of another as a conspiracy theory, when most admit there is no "proof" to either belief.... simply leaves bias as the outcome.




not really, conspiracy just means that people have conspired together to do something and a theory is something not proven

so conspiracy theory is not disavowing anything, but is the definition fo something that has not been 'proven' regarding someones belief that a large group has conspired to do wrong,,,


conspiracy [kənˈspɪrəsɪ]
n pl -cies
1. a secret plan or agreement to carry out an illegal or harmful act, esp with political motivation; plot
2. the act of making such plans in secret

The OP spoke of conspiracy theories....... Facts for anything to base a truth on is held in "secret" by the gov't, therefore any conjecture, without fact, for either argument is a conspiracy theory.


I agree

RKISIT's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:41 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Tue 01/03/12 07:56 AM
Well there's more to the JFK assassination than lee harvey oswald just deciding to shoot him plus the Robert Kennedy assassination is questionable also.Theres this 1% of me that do to the Operation Northwoods files makes me question 911.Other than that Hoffa was killed by the mafia.

Oh yeah and as for modern times,yes the government is watching over the people and invading our privacy,but then again that's been going on since the cold war with Russia even now that's over it still continues.Just now they are looking for "terrorist" instead of "commies."

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:49 AM
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Conspiracies


It's true,it's on the Internet!!!!!!!!!!!!!laugh

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