Topic: Conspiracies.......
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/03/12 07:51 AM

Well there's more to the JFK assassination than lee harvey oswald just deciding to shoot him plus the Robert Kennedy assassination is questionable also.Theres this 1% of me that do to the Operation Northwoods files makes me question 911.Other than that Hoffa was killed by the mafia.


And you will find many who agree with those theories shades

Theory promotes research, which promotes views and opinions, which promotes beliefs, which is a product of individual freedom and liberty and should be admired, open to debate, and NOT imposed as truth or ridiculed.

teadipper's photo
Tue 01/03/12 10:39 AM
Edited by teadipper on Tue 01/03/12 10:40 AM



Your impulse to run and hide is valid. Go with your gut!

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Conspiracy theories share many common attributes. They are all
conjecture with no evidence. There is no reason to fear conspiracy
theories - they are paper tigers.

Most of them revolve around various ancient recycled themes.

Read all about them here and dispel any lingering doubts.
Base your reality on demonstrable evidence and never on innuendo.

And stay away from the conspiracy theorists whose warped and
unprovable world of shadows and fantasy should only scare themselves!

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory


Okay here is a Terri theory. Many of my friends are a reformed something. I tell them I do not care what they did in the past because I love the friend that they are today and however they got to this mind set is what made them who they are and I don't really need to know unless they are with me and can't get a job because of their record or have an STD because of the past........

Okay humor me on this jump............

Okay, let's suppose all these conspiracies are real. Just pretend. Does that change my daily reality? I mean think of everything happening in the world at all times. Does any of it really change the fact that I need to get up eat breakfast, take a shower, feed the dog and cat, scoop the cat box, do the laundry and go about my day?? If WWIII broke out somewhere in Asia RIGHT NOW other than concern, how would that truly affect me other than the economy, etc. None of these conspiracies, etc. really impact my daily life. Most of us are that way. We live in our own little sphere of influence. Is it really important that we know everything? What makes you think you can know everything? We are human not omnipotent or omnipresent........



IM with ya there sister

IF I have read it or heard about it somewhere, you can bet that somewhere else someone has said or written the exact opposite

I gotta look at what happens around me and what I feel, from my own epxeriences, and what is the likely truth about whats happens that I have no PROOF of other than what someone else has relayed through speaking or writing,,,


Okay, I'll play along with the others though I think Ms. Harmony is right.

So you have all this information that the world at large is plotting against you..........then what? Somehow you are up against an entire nation or military or religion and you believe as an individual if you are just self aware enough or in some cases stock pile your arsenal enough, somehow you personally are going to control an entire gov't or agency? Sounds kind of like a delusion of grandeur to me............I dunno..........

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 01/03/12 10:50 AM
Just because I am paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me!laugh

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/03/12 12:19 PM

I am a war veteran. Perhaps I sense danger or smell BS a little better than some, but that is thru training and simple logic.

I have my ..... demons..... my feelings of danger in situations, that may be over enhanced in reality, but I refuse to igore them! Act on them? Avoiding that has taken many years and much personal effort and therapy. Successes and failures.

Am I paranoid? Perhaps, because I see outcomes, options, possible actions, all at once. Reaction is the key word here... I had to "learn" to be a civilian again, not to dive at a car backfire, fear a plane overhead, or the simple "noises" of a crowd.

Paranoia saved my bacon more than passivism ever could.

My motto....Always be prepared, expect the unexpected, react for defense, evaluate, and expedite proceedure.

Trust me, not a bad way of thinking.

Optomistic69's photo
Tue 01/03/12 12:33 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 01/03/12 12:33 PM



The OP spoke of conspiracy theories....... Facts for anything to base a truth on is held in "secret" by the gov't, therefore any conjecture, without fact, for either argument is a conspiracy theory.


In a Nutshell my friend...drinker

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APRIL 8 2012: Dick Cheney announces from his hospital bed that the United States has finally discovered caches of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq — "So all those doubters can now just go 'F' themselves." The former vice-president, however, refuses to provide any details of the find because, he says, to do so might reveal intelligence sources or methods.






ujGearhead's photo
Tue 01/03/12 12:40 PM
I believe that Al Gore is a robot built by a large group of penguins in order to make us think that global warming is real. They're hoping that we make the Earth get colder, thus expanding their territories and ease their conquering of the universe.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/03/12 01:12 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 01/03/12 01:14 PM

I believe that Al Gore is a robot built by a large group of penguins in order to make us think that global warming is real. They're hoping that we make the Earth get colder, thus expanding their territories and ease their conquering of the universe.


rofl Sadly, that's almost believable!

Get Batman on it!

s1owhand's photo
Tue 01/03/12 01:44 PM
The list of conspiracy theories is a collection of the most popular unproven theories related but not limited to clandestine government plans, elaborate murder plots, suppression of secret technology and knowledge, and other supposed schemes behind certain political, cultural, and historical events. They did not have any link to the actual incidents. Some theories are meant to cover up the accusers' own schemes, such as Holocaust denial. Most of them are imaginary works of some people.

Conspiracy theories usually go against a consensus or cannot be proven using the historical method and are typically not considered to be similar to verified conspiracies such as Germany's pretense for invading Poland in WW2.

So, here is a list of the most common nutball conspiracy theories:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

1 New World Order
1.1 Federal Reserve System
2 False flag operations
3 Wars
4 Coups d'état
5 Assassinations and other deaths
6 US Presidency
6.1 Clinton Body Count
6.2 Barack Obama birth conspiracy theories
7 Ethnicity, race and religion
7.1 Antisemitic conspiracy theories
7.2 Armenian International Conspiracy
7.3 "Babylon" and racist oppression
7.4 Eurabia
7.5 Arab-fascist axis
7.6 Baha'i
7.7 Apocalyptic prophecies
7.8 Bible conspiracy theory
7.9 Catholicism as a veiled continuation of Babylonian paganism
7.10 Dominionism
8 Technology and weapons
8.1 Suppression of technologies
8.2 Development of weapons technology
8.3 Weapons testing
8.4 Surveillance, espionage and intelligence agencies
9 Media
9.1 DTV Transition
10 Medicine
10.1 Drug legalization
10.2 Chemtrails
10.3 Diet
10.4 Creation of diseases
10.5 Water fluoridation
10.6 Traditional, natural and alternative medicines
11 Peak oil
12 Real groups said to be involved in conspiracies
12.1 Alleged groups associated with conspiracy theories
12.2 The Plan
13 Paranormal activity
13.1 Evil aliens
13.2 Extraterrestrials
14 Miscellaneous
15 See also
16 References
17 Further reading

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no photo
Tue 01/03/12 02:21 PM

Cause we all know wiki is so credible.........ohwell


laugh laugh laugh laugh


no photo
Tue 01/03/12 02:22 PM


I am a war veteran. Perhaps I sense danger or smell BS a little better than some, but that is thru training and simple logic.

I have my ..... demons..... my feelings of danger in situations, that may be over enhanced in reality, but I refuse to igore them! Act on them? Avoiding that has taken many years and much personal effort and therapy. Successes and failures.

Am I paranoid? Perhaps, because I see outcomes, options, possible actions, all at once. Reaction is the key word here... I had to "learn" to be a civilian again, not to dive at a car backfire, fear a plane overhead, or the simple "noises" of a crowd.

Paranoia saved my bacon more than passivism ever could.

My motto....Always be prepared, expect the unexpected, react for defense, evaluate, and expedite proceedure.

Trust me, not a bad way of thinking.


Its not paranoia if its true. tongue2

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 01/03/12 02:23 PM


I am a war veteran. Perhaps I sense danger or smell BS a little better than some, but that is thru training and simple logic.

I have my ..... demons..... my feelings of danger in situations, that may be over enhanced in reality, but I refuse to igore them! Act on them? Avoiding that has taken many years and much personal effort and therapy. Successes and failures.

Am I paranoid? Perhaps, because I see outcomes, options, possible actions, all at once. Reaction is the key word here... I had to "learn" to be a civilian again, not to dive at a car backfire, fear a plane overhead, or the simple "noises" of a crowd.

Paranoia saved my bacon more than passivism ever could.

My motto....Always be prepared, expect the unexpected, react for defense, evaluate, and expedite proceedure.

Trust me, not a bad way of thinking.
:thumbsup:

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/03/12 02:27 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 01/03/12 02:33 PM

The list of conspiracy theories is a collection of the most popular unproven theories related but not limited to clandestine government plans, elaborate murder plots, suppression of secret technology and knowledge, and other supposed schemes behind certain political, cultural, and historical events. They did not have any link to the actual incidents. Some theories are meant to cover up the accusers' own schemes, such as Holocaust denial. Most of them are imaginary works of some people.

Conspiracy theories usually go against a consensus or cannot be proven using the historical method and are typically not considered to be similar to verified conspiracies such as Germany's pretense for invading Poland in WW2.

So, here is a list of the most common nutball conspiracy theories:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

1 New World Order
1.1 Federal Reserve System
2 False flag operations
3 Wars
4 Coups d'état
5 Assassinations and other deaths
6 US Presidency
6.1 Clinton Body Count
6.2 Barack Obama birth conspiracy theories
7 Ethnicity, race and religion
7.1 Antisemitic conspiracy theories
7.2 Armenian International Conspiracy
7.3 "Babylon" and racist oppression
7.4 Eurabia
7.5 Arab-fascist axis
7.6 Baha'i
7.7 Apocalyptic prophecies
7.8 Bible conspiracy theory
7.9 Catholicism as a veiled continuation of Babylonian paganism
7.10 Dominionism
8 Technology and weapons
8.1 Suppression of technologies
8.2 Development of weapons technology
8.3 Weapons testing
8.4 Surveillance, espionage and intelligence agencies
9 Media
9.1 DTV Transition
10 Medicine
10.1 Drug legalization
10.2 Chemtrails
10.3 Diet
10.4 Creation of diseases
10.5 Water fluoridation
10.6 Traditional, natural and alternative medicines
11 Peak oil
12 Real groups said to be involved in conspiracies
12.1 Alleged groups associated with conspiracy theories
12.2 The Plan
13 Paranormal activity
13.1 Evil aliens
13.2 Extraterrestrials
14 Miscellaneous
15 See also
16 References
17 Further reading

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It is a sad day when we fail to consider, or passively accept, what is sold to us as (unproven) fact or a conspiracy theory.

I for one will ALWAYS question until the FACTS are known, and never discount ANY belief of those who might agree with one or the other...

THAT is illogical, irresponsible, and more of an abasement to oneself than being called a conspiracy theorist (one who investigates or requires more information of unknown, unproven, statements or events).

Many sound silly, but without facts, who is the fool?

s1owhand's photo
Tue 01/03/12 02:27 PM

The list of conspiracy theories is a collection of the most popular unproven theories related but not limited to clandestine government plans, elaborate murder plots, suppression of secret technology and knowledge, and other supposed schemes behind certain political, cultural, and historical events. They did not have any link to the actual incidents. Some theories are meant to cover up the accusers' own schemes, such as Holocaust denial. Most of them are imaginary works of some people.

Conspiracy theories usually go against a consensus or cannot be proven using the historical method and are typically not considered to be similar to verified conspiracies such as Germany's pretense for invading Poland in WW2.

So, here is a list of the most common nutball conspiracy theories:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

1 New World Order
1.1 Federal Reserve System
2 False flag operations
3 Wars
4 Coups d'état
5 Assassinations and other deaths
6 US Presidency
6.1 Clinton Body Count
6.2 Barack Obama birth conspiracy theories
7 Ethnicity, race and religion
7.1 Antisemitic conspiracy theories
7.2 Armenian International Conspiracy
7.3 "Babylon" and racist oppression
7.4 Eurabia
7.5 Arab-fascist axis
7.6 Baha'i
7.7 Apocalyptic prophecies
7.8 Bible conspiracy theory
7.9 Catholicism as a veiled continuation of Babylonian paganism
7.10 Dominionism
8 Technology and weapons
8.1 Suppression of technologies
8.2 Development of weapons technology
8.3 Weapons testing
8.4 Surveillance, espionage and intelligence agencies
9 Media
9.1 DTV Transition
10 Medicine
10.1 Drug legalization
10.2 Chemtrails
10.3 Diet
10.4 Creation of diseases
10.5 Water fluoridation
10.6 Traditional, natural and alternative medicines
11 Peak oil
12 Real groups said to be involved in conspiracies
12.1 Alleged groups associated with conspiracy theories
12.2 The Plan
13 Paranormal activity
13.1 Evil aliens
13.2 Extraterrestrials
14 Miscellaneous
15 See also
16 References
17 Further reading

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Cause we all know wiki is so credible.........ohwell


Obviously you cannot argue for the validity of any of the conspiracy
theories!

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Tue 01/03/12 02:30 PM

I have a playmate I met on here who is UBER smart and also UBER paranoid and he is really into conspiracies..... He's super intellectual and entertaining...... You know me I humor people.....

However, I tell him I could never ever be with him because the stuff he reads and believes about the gov't. etc. Makes me want to crawl under the covers trembling while clutching my cat and a loaded shot gun and scares me so bad I would be afraid out of fear I might accidentally shoot the Avon lady.

Just wondering how many of you are into these conspiracies and how many of you really believe them and if you do believe them how do you sleep at night?

I tell this guy if he ever starts posting, he is going to scare the heck out of people.



I look at declassified documents about things our government has done in the past and that's enough to scare the be-jesus out of anyone.

There are so many dark and sinister things going on that we don't know ab out!

So how do I sleep at night? I have faith. To add to that, I'm tired. tongue2

Am I "paranoid?" No, I don't think so. I am simply suspicious of many things, and I don't trust authority. The higher the authority, the less I trust them.

I don't believe what I see in ads, on news programs etc. I don't believe politicians. I don't believe propaganda, and there is a lot of it.

You can know who not to trust. There are plenty of clues and signs. Study how the CIA operates. Learn about top secret, and above top secret programs.... not easy to do of course. Watch to see what they are calling "classified" that should not be classified. They are hiding something. Read between the lines. Trust your instinct.

We are like gazelles walking around in the tall grass. You know there are lions in the grass somewhere. Look out for them.


teadipper's photo
Tue 01/03/12 02:32 PM

I believe that Al Gore is a robot built by a large group of penguins in order to make us think that global warming is real. They're hoping that we make the Earth get colder, thus expanding their territories and ease their conquering of the universe.


Hon, did you forget your meds? Should you be driving today? I will call kitten to pick you up...........

no photo
Tue 01/03/12 02:40 PM
Conspiracy theories are born when questions are not answered.

Conspiracy theories are born when the news media and the government fail to tell the truth and common ordinary citizens find out things are not what they are being told.

THAT is where conspiracy theories are born.

And many of them are coming up with the truth.


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/03/12 02:40 PM


The list of conspiracy theories is a collection of the most popular unproven theories related but not limited to clandestine government plans, elaborate murder plots, suppression of secret technology and knowledge, and other supposed schemes behind certain political, cultural, and historical events. They did not have any link to the actual incidents. Some theories are meant to cover up the accusers' own schemes, such as Holocaust denial. Most of them are imaginary works of some people.

Conspiracy theories usually go against a consensus or cannot be proven using the historical method and are typically not considered to be similar to verified conspiracies such as Germany's pretense for invading Poland in WW2.

So, here is a list of the most common nutball conspiracy theories:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

1 New World Order
1.1 Federal Reserve System
2 False flag operations
3 Wars
4 Coups d'état
5 Assassinations and other deaths
6 US Presidency
6.1 Clinton Body Count
6.2 Barack Obama birth conspiracy theories
7 Ethnicity, race and religion
7.1 Antisemitic conspiracy theories
7.2 Armenian International Conspiracy
7.3 "Babylon" and racist oppression
7.4 Eurabia
7.5 Arab-fascist axis
7.6 Baha'i
7.7 Apocalyptic prophecies
7.8 Bible conspiracy theory
7.9 Catholicism as a veiled continuation of Babylonian paganism
7.10 Dominionism
8 Technology and weapons
8.1 Suppression of technologies
8.2 Development of weapons technology
8.3 Weapons testing
8.4 Surveillance, espionage and intelligence agencies
9 Media
9.1 DTV Transition
10 Medicine
10.1 Drug legalization
10.2 Chemtrails
10.3 Diet
10.4 Creation of diseases
10.5 Water fluoridation
10.6 Traditional, natural and alternative medicines
11 Peak oil
12 Real groups said to be involved in conspiracies
12.1 Alleged groups associated with conspiracy theories
12.2 The Plan
13 Paranormal activity
13.1 Evil aliens
13.2 Extraterrestrials
14 Miscellaneous
15 See also
16 References
17 Further reading

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Cause we all know wiki is so credible.........ohwell


Obviously you cannot argue for the validity of any of the conspiracy
theories!

laugh


I repeat...... Many sound silly, but without facts, who is the fool?

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Tue 01/03/12 02:46 PM
1 New World Order -----> TRUE

1.1 Federal Reserve System -----> I don't know what the conspiracy is about them. They exist.


2 False flag operations ------> They are facts.

3 Wars -------> They are facts. All started ON PURPOSE.

4 Coups d'état -------> They happen all the time.

5 Assassinations and other deaths ---------> Her majesties secret service, licence to kill. The death of some guy said to be Osama Bin Laden... assassinated. Kennedy... -----> all facts.

These are not "crazy conspiracy theories." These are all efforts to uncover the truth. Citizen efforts, because the Media is owned by Zionists and Elite Criminals, and the government is controlled by the Elite who are controlled by Aliens.

All true.bigsmile bigsmile




6 US Presidency
6.1 Clinton Body Count
6.2 Barack Obama birth conspiracy theories
7 Ethnicity, race and religion
7.1 Antisemitic conspiracy theories
7.2 Armenian International Conspiracy
7.3 "Babylon" and racist oppression
7.4 Eurabia
7.5 Arab-fascist axis
7.6 Baha'i
7.7 Apocalyptic prophecies
7.8 Bible conspiracy theory
7.9 Catholicism as a veiled continuation of Babylonian paganism
7.10 Dominionism
8 Technology and weapons
8.1 Suppression of technologies
8.2 Development of weapons technology
8.3 Weapons testing
8.4 Surveillance, espionage and intelligence agencies
9 Media
9.1 DTV Transition
10 Medicine
10.1 Drug legalization
10.2 Chemtrails
10.3 Diet
10.4 Creation of diseases
10.5 Water fluoridation
10.6 Traditional, natural and alternative medicines
11 Peak oil
12 Real groups said to be involved in conspiracies
12.1 Alleged groups associated with conspiracy theories
12.2 The Plan
13 Paranormal activity
13.1 Evil aliens
13.2 Extraterrestrials
14 Miscellaneous
15 See also
16 References
17 Further reading

s1owhand's photo
Tue 01/03/12 03:35 PM
rofl

teadipper's photo
Tue 01/03/12 04:05 PM

Conspiracy theories are born when questions are not answered.

Conspiracy theories are born when the news media and the government fail to tell the truth and common ordinary citizens find out things are not what they are being told.

THAT is where conspiracy theories are born.

And many of them are coming up with the truth.




Is that also not when religion is born????