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Topic: Happy La Befana
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Sun 12/25/11 06:19 AM
Christian legend had it that Befana was approached by the biblical magi, also known as the Three Wise Men (or the three kings) a few days before the birth of the Infant Jesus. They asked for directions to where the Son of God was, as they had seen his star in the sky, but she did not know. She provided them with shelter for a night, as she was considered the best housekeeper in the village, with the most pleasant home. The magi invited her to join them on the journey to find the baby Jesus, but she declined, stating she was too busy with her housework. Later, La Befana had a change of heart, and tried to search out the astrologers and Jesus. That night she was not able to find them, so to this day, La Befana is searching for the little baby. She leaves all the good children toys and candy (“caramelle”) or fruit, while the bad children get coal (“carbone”), onions or garlic.
Another Christian legend takes a slightly darker tone as La Befana was an ordinary woman with a child whom she greatly loved. However, her child died, and her resulting grief maddened her. Upon hearing news of Jesus being born, she set out to see him, delusional that he was her son. She eventually met Jesus and presented him with gifts to make him happy. The infant Jesus was delighted, and he gave La Befana a gift in return; she would be the mother of every child in Italy.
Also, popular tradition tells that if one sees La Befana one will receive a thump from her broomstick, as she doesn't wish to be seen. This aspect of the tradition may be designed to keep children in their beds while parents are distributing candy (or coal) and sweeping the floor on Epiphany Eve.
Also, another commonly heard Christian legend of la Befana starts at the time of the birth of baby Jesus. Befana spends her days cleaning and sweeping. One day the magi, also known as the three wise men, came to her door in search of baby Jesus. Befana turned them away because she was too busy cleaning. Befana notices a bright light in the sky; she thinks this is the way to baby Jesus. She brought some baked goods and gifts for baby Jesus in her bag and took her broom to help the new mother clean and began her search for baby Jesus. She searched and searched for Baby Jesus, but never found him. Befana still searches today, after all these centuries. On the eve of the Epiphany, Befana comes to a house where there is a child and leaves a gift. Although she has been unsuccessful in her search, she still leaves gifts for good young children because the Christ Child can be found in all children.
Many people believe that the name Befana is derived from the Italians' mispronunciation of the Greek word epifania or epiphaneia (Greek, επιφάνεια = appearance, surface, English: epiphany). Others point to the name being a derivative of Bastrina, the gifts associated with the goddess Strina. In the book Domestic Life in Palestine, by Mary E. Rogers (Poe & Hitchcock, 1865) the author notes:
"But an 'Essay on the Fine Arts,' by E. L. Tarbuck, led me to believe that this custom is a relic of pagan worship, and that the word "Bastrina" refers to the offerings which used to be made to the goddess Strenia. We could hardly expect that the pagans who embraced Christianity could altogether abandon their former creeds and customs. Macaulay says, "Christianity conquered paganism, but paganism infected Christianity; the rites of the Pantheon passed into her 'worship, and the subtilties of the Academy into her creed.' Many pagan customs were adopted by the new Church. T. Hope, in his 'Essay on Architecture,' says: 'The Saturnalia were continued in the Carnival, and the festival with offerings to the goddess Strenia was continued in that of the New Year…'" – page 408
An interesting theory connects the tradition of exchanging gifts to an ancient Roman festivity in honour of Ianus and Strenia (in Italian a Christmas gift is called strenna), celebrated at the beginning of the year, when Romans used to give each other presents.
The tradition of La Befana appears to incorporate other pre-Christian popular elements as well, adapted to Christian culture and related to the celebration of the New Year. Historian Carlo Ginzburg relates her to Nicevenn. The old lady character should then represent the old year just passed, ready to be burned in order to give place to the new one. In many European countries the tradition still exists of burning a puppet of an old lady at the beginning of the New Year, called Giubiana in Northern Italy, with clear Celtic origins. Italian anthropologists Claudia and Luigi Manciocco, in their book Una Casa Senza Porte (House without a Door) trace Befana's origins back to Neolithic beliefs and practices. The team of anthropologists also write about Befana as a figure that evolved into a goddess associated with fertility and agriculture.
Befana also maintains many similarities with Perchta and her Pre-Christian Alpine traditions.

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Mon 12/26/11 07:54 PM
RainbowTrout, You come up with some of the most interesting articles. I've never heard some of those stories. I find it fascinating to see the evolution of traditions. Thanks for great post.

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Tue 12/27/11 05:14 AM
You're welcome, Diane.:smile: I was doing one of the questionnaires at the nursing home of world like different Christmas customs and the La Befana was on it. It got me curious. I was already interested in the magi.


1 Kings x.

1 And when the Queen of Sheba heard of the fame of Solomon concerning the name of the Lord, she came to prove him with hard questions.

2 And she came to Jerusalem with a very great train, with camels that bare spices, and very much gold, and precious stones: and when she was come to Solomon, she communed with him of all that was in her heart.

3 And Solomon told her all her questions.

4 And when the Queen of Sheba had seen all Solomon's wisdom, and the house that he had built,

5 And the meat of his table, and the sitting of his servants, and the attendance of his ministers, and their apparel, and his cup-bearers, and his ascent by which he went up unto the house of the Lord; there was no more spirit in her.

6 And she said to the king, It was a true report that I heard in mine own land of thy acts and of thy wisdom.

7 Howbeit I believed not the words, until I came, and mine eyes had seen it; and,. behold, the half was not told me; thy wisdom and prosperity exceedeth the fame which I heard.

9 Blessed be the Lord thy God, which delighteth in thee, to set thee on the throne of Israel.

10 And she gave the king a hundred and twenty talents of gold, and of spices very great store, and precious stones: . . .

13 And King Solomon gave unto the Queen of Sheba all her desire, whatsoever she asked. So she turned and went to her own country.

IN the height of Solomon's piety and prosperity the Queen of Sheba came to visit him. She had heard of his great wealth and wisdom and desired to see if all was true. She was called the Queen of the South, supposed to be in Africa. The Christians in Ethiopia say to this day that she came from their country, and that Candace, spoken of in Acts viii., 27, was her successor. She was queen regent, sovereign of her country. Many a kingdom would have been deprived of its greatest blessing if the Salic law had been admitted into its constitution.

It was a great journey for the queen, with her retinue, to undertake. The reports of the magnificence of Solomon's surroundings, the temple of the Lord and the palace for the daughter of Pharaoh, roused her curiosity to see his wealth. The reports of his wisdom inspired her with the hope that she might obtain new ideas on the

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science of government and help her to establish a more perfect system in her kingdom. She had heard of his piety, too, his religion and the God whom he worshiped, and his maxims of policy in morals and public life. She is mentioned again in the New Testament ill Matthew xii., 42. She brought many valuable presents of gold, jewels, spices and precious stones to defray all the expenses of her retinue at Solomon's court, to show him that her country was worthy of honor and of respect.

The queen was greatly surprised with all that she saw, the reality surpassed her wildest imagination. Solomon's reception was most cordial and respectful, and he conversed with her as he would with a friendly king coming to visit from afar. This is the first account which we have in the Bible of a prolonged rational conversation with a woman on questions of public policy. He answered all her questions, though the commentators volunteer the opinion that some may have been frivolous and captious. As the text suggests no such idea, we have a right to assume that her conduct and conversation were pre-eminently judicious. Solomon did not suggest to the queen that she was out of her sphere, that home duties, children and the philosophy of domestic life were the proper subjects for her consideration; but he talked with her as one sovereign should with another.

She was deeply impressed by the elegance of his surroundings, the artistic effect of his table, and the gold, silver and glass, the skill of his servants, the perfect order which reigned throughout the palace, but more than all with his piety and wisdom, and his reverence when he went up to the temple to worship God or to make the customary offering. She wondered at such greatness and goodness combined in one man. Her visit was one succession of surprises; and she rejoiced to find that the truth of all that she had heard exceeded her expectations. She is spoken of in Psalms lxxii., 15, as a pattern for Solomon.

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Tue 12/27/11 05:23 AM
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1 Kings xi.

1 But King Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians and Hittites:

2 Of the nations concerning which the Lord said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love.

3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines:

4 It came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God.

This is a sad story of Solomon's defection and degeneracy. As the Queen of Sheba did not have seven hundred husbands, she had time for travel and the observation of the great world outside of her domain. It is impossible to estimate the ennui a thousand women must have suffered crowded together, with only one old gentleman to contemplate; but he probably solaced their many hours with some of his choice songs, so appreciative of the charms of beautiful women. It is probable that his little volume of poems was in the hand of every woman, and that Solomon gave them occasional recitations on the imaginative and emotional nature of women. We have reason to believe that with his wisdom he gave as much variety to their lives as possible, and with fine oratory, graceful manners and gorgeous apparel made himself as attractive as the situation permitted.

There have been a great number of different views held in regard to the Queen of Sheba, both in reference to the signification of the name "Sheba," and also in relation to the country from which this famous personage made a visit to Solomon. Abyssinia, Ethiopia, Persia and Arabia have each laid claim to this wise woman. Menelik, the present king of the former country, who so effectually defeated Italy in his recent war with that country, possesses the same name as, and claims descent from, the fabled son of this wise woman and of the wise king Solomon, one of whose numerous wives, it is traditionally said, she became. Ethiopia, the seat of a very ancient and great civilization, and whose capital was called Saba; Persia, where the worship of the sun and of fire originated; and Arabia, the country of gold, of frankincense and of myrrh, also claim her. It is to the latter country that this queen belonged.

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Whether we look upon the Bible as a historical work, a mythological work, or, as many now do regard it, as "A Book of the Adepts, written by Initiates, for Initiates," a record of ancient mysteries hidden to all but initiates, the Queen of Sheba is a most interesting character.

The words Sab, Saba, Sheba, all have an astronomical or astrological meaning, signifying the "Host of Heaven," "The Planetary System." Saba, or Sheba, was especially the home of astronomical wisdom; and all words of this character mean wise in regard to the stars. The wisdom of Saba and of the Sabeans was planetary wisdom, the "Sabean language" meaning astronomy, or astrology, the latter being the esoteric portion of the science. At the time of the mysteries, astrology was a sacred or secret science, the words "sacred" and "secret" meaning the same thing. Among the oldest mysteries, when all learning was confined to initiates, were those of Sabasia, whose periodic festivals of a sacred character were so extremely ancient that their origin is now lost.

Solomon, also, whether looked upon as a historical or a mythical character, is philologically shown to have been connected with the planetary system, Sol-Om-On signifying "the sun." It is singular to note how closely the sun, the moon and the stars are connected with ancient religions, even that of the Jewish. In the Old Testament the new moon and the Sab-bath are almost invariably mentioned together. The full moon also possessed a religious signification to the Jews, the agricultural feasts taking place at the full moon, which were called Sab-baths. Even in the Old Testament we find that Sab has an astronomical or astrological meaning, connected with the planetary system.

The Sabeans were an occult body, especially devoted to a study of the heavens; at their head, the wisest among them, the chief astronomer and astrologer of the nation, the wisest person in a nation of wisdom, was that Queen of Sheba, who visited that other planetary dignitary, Solomon, to prove him with hard astronomical and astrological questions.

There is historic proof that the city of Saba was the royal seat of the kings of Arabia, which country, Diodorus says, was never conquered. {p. 68} Among ancient peoples it bore the names of "Araby the Happy," "Araby the Blest." It was a country of gold and spices whose perfume was wafted far over the sea. All cups and utensils were of the precious metals; all beds, chairs and stools having feet of silver; the temples were magnificently adorned; and the porticoes of even the private houses were of gold inlaid with ivory and precious stones.

Among the presents carried by the Queen of Sheba to Sol-Om-On were the famous balsam trees of her country. The first attempt at plant acclimatizing of which the world has record was made with this tree by the magnificent Pharaoh, Queen Hatasu, of the brilliant eighteenth Egyptian dynasty. A thousand years before she of Sheba, Queen Hatasu, upon her return from a naval expedition to the Red Sea, carried home with her twelve of these trees in baskets of earth, which lived and became one of the three species of sacred trees of Egypt.

Arabia was the seat of Eastern wisdom, from which it also radiated to the British Isles of Europe at the time of the Celtic Druids, with whom Sabs was the day when these lords of Sabaoth rested from study and gave instructions to the people. As previously among the Jews, this day of instruction became known as one of rest from physical labor, Sab-bath and rest becoming synonymous. Seven being a sacred number among initiates, every seventh day was devoted to instruction. When a knowledge of the mysteries became lost, the words "Sab-bath," "rest" and "seven" began to have a very wrong meaning in the minds of people; and much injury has been done to the world through this perversion.

But later than Druidical times, Arabian wisdom made the southwestern portion of the European continent brilliant with learning, during the long period of the Christian dark ages, a time when, like the Bourbons of later date, Christians learned nothing, a time when no heresy arose because no thought was allowed, when there was no progress because there was no doubt.

From these countrymen of the Queen of Sheba, the Spanish Arabs, Columbus first learned of a world beyond the Pillars of Hercules. Architecture rose to its height in the beautiful Alhambra,

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with its exquisite interlaced tracery in geometric design; medicine had its profound schools at various points; poetry numbered women among its most famous composers; the ballad originated there; and the modern literature of Europe was born from a woman's pen upon the hearth of the despised Ishmaelite, whose ancestral mother was known as Hagar, and whose most brilliant descendant was the Queen of Sheba.

Nowhere upon the earth has there existed a race of improvisatores equal to the daughters of that despised bondwoman, the countrywoman of the Queen of Sheba. As storytellers the world has not their equal. Scherezade is a name upon the lips of Jews, of Gentiles, of Mohammedans and of Christians. A woman's "Thousand and One Nights" is famous as a combination of wit, wisdom and occultism wherever the language of civilization is spoken. With increasing knowledge we learn somewhat of the mysteries of the inner, higher life contained in those tales of genii, of rings and of lamps of wondrous and curious power. The race descended from Hagar, of which the Queen of Sheba is the most brilliant reminder, has given to the world the most of its profound literature, elegant poetry, art, science and occultism. Arabia is the mother of mathematics; from this country was borrowed our one (1) and our cipher (0), from which all other notation is evolved.

Astronomy and astrology being among the oldest sciences, the moon early became known as "the Measurer," her varied motions, her influence upon the tides, her connection with the generative functions, all giving her a high place in the secret sciences. While in a planetary sense the Queen of Sheba has in a manner been identified with the moon, as Sabs, she was also connected with the sun, the same as Solomon and the serpent. When Moses lifted up the brazen serpent in the wilderness it was specifically a part of sun worship. The golden calf of Aaron was more closely connected with moon worship, although the serpentine path of both these bodies in the heavens identified each with the serpent.

The occult knowledge which the Jews possessed in regard to those planets was borrowed by them from Egypt, where for many ages the sun and the moon had been studied in connection with their movements

http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/wb/wb53.htm

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Tue 12/27/11 06:02 AM
The book of Job tells the story of an extremely righteous man named Job, who was very prosperous and had seven sons and three daughters. Constantly fearing that his sons may have sinned and "cursed God in their hearts", he habitually offered burnt offerings as a pardon for their sins.[2] The "sons of God" and Satan (literally "the adversary") present themselves to God, and God asks Satan his opinion on Job. Satan answers that Job is pious only because God has put a "wall around" him and "blessed" his favourite servant with prosperity, but if God were to stretch out his hand and strike everything that Job had, then he would surely curse God. God gives Satan permission to test Job's righteousness.[3]
All of Job's possessions are destroyed; the 500 yoke of oxen and 500 donkeys carried off by Sabeans, the 7000 sheep were burned up by 'The fire of God which fell from the sky,' the 3000 camels were stolen by the Chaldeans and the house of the firstborn collapsed, due to a mighty wind, killing all of Job's offspring, but Job does not curse God but instead shaves his head, tears his clothes and says, "Naked I came out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return: Lord has given, and Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of Lord."[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Job

Doing a backtrack of these Sabeans.:smile:

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Tue 12/27/11 06:08 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 12/27/11 06:18 AM
The sacred-texts website presents FALSE

information ,especially in regards to anything concerning the bible .


NONE of what you shared in your 2 posts on King Solomon , line

up with The Word of God at all, Rainbow.


IF you want to just share legends from that webiste, that is

fine ; but again, the website offers nothing but false

information as far as the bible is concerned( I wouldn't be

surprised if even the legends are incorrect also ).


Just letting you know in case you are not aware of

this,Rainbow.flowerforyou


Sadly, many websites today on the internet, do not present the

Truth of the Word of God at all.


This is why it is so importantt to study and know the Word of God

for one self.


:heart::heart::heart:

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Tue 12/27/11 06:09 AM
Pre Dynastic Qahtan (3rd millennium BC - 8th century BC)
According to some hypotheses, in the 3rd millennium BC the Arabs of the southern Arabian peninsula united under the leadership of Qahtan.[3] The Qahtanis began building simple earth dams and canals in the Marib area in the Sayhad desert. This area would later become the site of the Dam of Marib. A trade route began to flourish along the Red Sea coasts of Tihama. An order of high priests appeared in South Arabian culture who are referred to as the Mukkaribs of the "Sabeans"[4] represented by local tribal leaders who came to rule South Arabia and some parts of East Africa. This period witnessed the reign of the legendary Queen Bilqis mentioned in the Bible/Quran.[5] This period ended with the arrival of the alphabet in the 9th century BC. A variant of the Phoenician script, this will lead to the recording of the South Arabian history.

Kingdom of Saba (8th century BCE - 275 CE)

Main article: Sabaeans
During Sabaean rule, trade and agriculture flourished generating much wealth and prosperity. The Sabaean kingdom is located in what is now the Aseer region in southwestern Yemen, and its capital, Ma'rib, is located near what is now Yemen's modern capital, Sana'a.[6] According to Arab tradition, the eldest son of Noah, Shem, founded the city of Ma'rib.
During Sabaean rule, Yemen was called "Arabia Felix" by the Romans who were impressed by its wealth and prosperity. The Roman emperor Augustus sent a military expedition to conquer the "Arabia Felix", under the orders of Aelius Gallus. After an unsuccessful siege of Ma'rib, the Roman general retreated to Egypt, while his fleet destroyed the port of Aden in order to guarantee the Roman merchant route to India.
The success of the Kingdom was based on the cultivation and trade of spices and aromatics including frankincense and myrrh. These were exported to the Mediterranean, India, and Abyssinia where they were greatly prized by many cultures, using camels on routes through Arabia, and to India by sea.
Agriculture in Yemen thrived during this time due to an advanced irrigation system which consisted of large water tunnels in mountains, and dams. The most impressive of these earthworks, known as the Ma'rib Dam was built ca. 700 BCE, provided irrigation for about 25,000 acres (101 km²) of land[7] and stood for over a millennium, finally collapsing in 570 CE after centuries of neglect. The final destruction of the dam is noted in the Qur'an and the consequent failure of the irrigation system provoked the migration of up to 50,000 people.
The Sabaean kingdom, with its capital at Ma'rib where the remains of a large temple can still be seen, thrived for almost 14 centuries. Some have argued that this kingdom was the Sheba described in the Old Testament.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_history_of_Yemen

RainbowTrout's photo
Tue 12/27/11 06:45 AM

The sacred-texts website presents FALSE

information ,especially in regards to anything concerning the bible .


NONE of what you shared in your 2 posts on King Solomon , line

up with The Word of God at all, Rainbow.


IF you want to just share legends from that webiste, that is

fine ; but again, the website offers nothing but false

information as far as the bible is concerned( I wouldn't be

surprised if even the legends are incorrect also ).


Just letting you know in case you are not aware of

this,Rainbow.flowerforyou


Sadly, many websites today on the internet, do not present the

Truth of the Word of God at all.


This is why it is so importantt to study and know the Word of God

for one self.


:heart::heart::heart:


Exactly. All one has to do is read the Songs of Solomon. It is like why do you need 700 wives?laugh

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Tue 12/27/11 06:55 AM
6 Who is this that cometh out of the wilderness like pillars of smoke, perfumed with myrrh and frankincense,
with all powders of the merchant?

The Song of Solomon
3

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Tue 12/27/11 07:16 AM
La Befana! The Christmas witch! drinker

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Tue 12/27/11 07:56 AM

La Befana! The Christmas witch! drinker
:smile:

I think people buy that faster than the Kings of Kings being the King of Queens. drinker

After all it is called the Songs Of Solomon. :smile: It would be a good way for for a Queen to stay anonymous. :smile: I mean who would be the wiser.happy

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Tue 12/27/11 08:13 AM
Edited by Redykeulous on Tue 12/27/11 08:14 AM

The sacred-texts website presents FALSE

information ,especially in regards to anything concerning the bible .


NONE of what you shared in your 2 posts on King Solomon , line

up with The Word of God at all, Rainbow.


IF you want to just share legends from that webiste, that is

fine ; but again, the website offers nothing but false

information as far as the bible is concerned( I wouldn't be

surprised if even the legends are incorrect also ).


Just letting you know in case you are not aware of

this,Rainbow.flowerforyou


Sadly, many websites today on the internet, do not present the

Truth of the Word of God at all.


This is why it is so importantt to study and know the Word of God

for one self.


:heart::heart::heart:


They are ALL legends, you believe in one while others have their own. To say that others are wrong is only the opinion of one falible human judging the beliefs of yet another falible human.

What does it matter to you as along as the beliefs result in human behavior that is kind, generous, caring, and includes an acceptance of some form of human dignity and responsibility for all that exists?

Your sacred texts are sacred to you and what you take from them comes from sources unknown and it works the same for everyone.

Perhaps judgement of whose beleifs are right and wrong are not even what the creator intends. Perhaps the intention is to judge a person's characther and behavior and beliefs are of no consequence.

Imagine that and then ask yourself, what guides human behavior and what does it matter if the behavior was intended for a good outcome.







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Tue 12/27/11 09:59 AM
The Italian tradition tells that La Befana, a nice old woman, on the night between the 5th and 6th January, lands on the roofs with her broom stick and goes down the chimney, where every child has left their stocking. La Befana, who carries with her a bag of sweets, fills the stockings of the children who behave with lots of chocolates. She fills the stockings of the kids who didn’t behave with lumps of coal instead.

The Epiphany day, the 6th of January, is considered the last day of the Christmas holiday and everyone takes the Christmas tree down on that day. In Italy there is a saying " L'Epifania che ogni festa si porta via" which roughly translated means “The Epiphany takes away all festivity”.

In most Italian regions, even adults give little presents to each other and so do lovers with stockings full of chocolate, that are similar to those that La Befana leaves for the kids.

Everyone knows La Befana as an old woman, usually ugly, who wears an old, long and big skirt with colourful patches, a scarf on her shoulders, a hat and a pair of old and broken shoes.

http://goitaly.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=goitaly&cdn=travel&tm=290&f=00&su=p531.56.342.ip_&tt=2&bt=1&bts=1&st=11&zu=http%3A//www.mybefana.it/english/befana_home_en.html

I think Santa Claus would like La Befana. I think they might have a lot in common.:smile:

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Tue 12/27/11 10:02 AM

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Tue 12/27/11 10:35 AM
It must be really nice for the kids. Santa Claus comes on Christmas Day and then La Befana right afterwards. Say for instance you screwed up and was bad and didn't get any Christmas presents. You could either get your act together for La Befana and make up for it or say you were poor. You could get an extra chuck of coal. What a bargain especially if you were cold.:smile: Man that would be cool to be there. I could just imagine the conversation La Befana would have with Santa Claus about the magic of the torque eight flying reindeer and the magic of the aero dynamics of a flying broom stick. One could probably get some credit in a class in Quantum Physics.:smile:

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Tue 12/27/11 10:46 AM
Epiphany Processions and Living Nativities

In Vatican City, following another Epiphany tradition, a procession of hundreds of people in medieval costumes walk along the wide avenue leading up to the Vatican, carrying symbolic gifts for the Pope. The Pope says a morning mass in St Peter's Basilica to commemorate the visit of the Wise Men bearing gifts for Jesus.

http://goitaly.about.com/od/festivalsandevents/a/epiphany.htm:smile:

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Tue 12/27/11 03:09 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 12/27/11 03:33 PM


The sacred-texts website presents FALSE

information ,especially in regards to anything concerning the bible .


NONE of what you shared in your 2 posts on King Solomon , line

up with The Word of God at all, Rainbow.


IF you want to just share legends from that webiste, that is

fine ; but again, the website offers nothing but false

information as far as the bible is concerned( I wouldn't be

surprised if even the legends are incorrect also ).


Just letting you know in case you are not aware of

this,Rainbow.flowerforyou


Sadly, many websites today on the internet, do not present the

Truth of the Word of God at all.


This is why it is so importantt to study and know the Word of God

for one self.


:heart::heart::heart:


They are ALL legends, you believe in one while others have their own. To say that others are wrong is only the opinion of one falible human judging the beliefs of yet another falible human.

What does it matter to you as along as the beliefs result in human behavior that is kind, generous, caring, and includes an acceptance of some form of human dignity and responsibility for all that exists?

Your sacred texts are sacred to you and what you take from them comes from sources unknown and it works the same for everyone.

Perhaps judgement of whose beleifs are right and wrong are not even what the creator intends. Perhaps the intention is to judge a person's characther and behavior and beliefs are of no consequence.

Imagine that and then ask yourself, what guides human behavior and what does it matter if the behavior was intended for a good outcome.




Redy....If one wants to believe it is ALL legend,

that is one's own perogative.....In my post above,I was

especially addressing WEBSITES which MISQUOTE the bible.

Which,btw, are MANY .


THAT was my whole point...... waaayyyyy toooo much

misrepresentation is going on, of what the bible is truly

saying....due of course ,to lack of True undersrtanding of the

Word of God.


But ONLY GOD has the POWER to OPEN one's eyes anyway, so one may

FINALLY SEE THE TRUTH ....and finally gain True UNDERSTANDING

of GOD'S HOLY WORD and WHO HE TRULY IS .


No man can do this.

Only God .

Only God Draws and Opens eyes...All in His Own Time.

And When God Does ,He does it at just the Right Time.

God's Timing is Always Perfect.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



:heart::heart::heart:

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Tue 12/27/11 03:19 PM


This kind Italian lady emerged in Italy during the 17th century trend of 'replacing St. Nicholas'. Her legend describes her as an old woman too busy with her housework to accompany the Magi in search of the manger. Later, feeling remorseful, she loaded a basket of gifts and fruit and set out to find the Christ child without success. Thereafter, known as 'the Good Christmas Witch', she travels on the Eve of Epiphany, January 5, giving gifts to good boys and girls and coal to the naughty ones. A broom is her mode of transportation, upon which she swoops down the chimneys!


This is a beautiful statue...I may have to save up my pennies and buy myself this for Christmas next year.

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Tue 12/27/11 03:45 PM

La Befana! The Christmas witch! drinker



Ruth!!!

Would you hurry up and get saved already !!!??laugh :tongue:


Ruth?

I Love You.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

Just the way you are.:heart:

So does God.:heart::heart::heart:


But know this:

God ain't done with ya, young lady.flowerforyou

He has a Great Plan and Purpose still ahead for You .drinker<<<<folgers in my cup bigsmile


Be Encouraged Now, Ruth.:heart::heart::heart:

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Tue 12/27/11 03:57 PM
:heart: MorningSong:heart:

I love you, too. And, so does God. :heart:

But, I will always be too Pagan for the Christians and too Christian for the Pagans. Such is the fate of a Catholic witch. ohwell

But, please, don't waste your concern on me. I am very happy and have no intention of changing for anyone. :heart: flowerforyou

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