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Topic: Happy La Befana
Redykeulous's photo
Tue 12/27/11 03:59 PM

The Italian tradition tells that La Befana, a nice old woman, on the night between the 5th and 6th January, lands on the roofs with her broom stick and goes down the chimney, where every child has left their stocking. La Befana, who carries with her a bag of sweets, fills the stockings of the children who behave with lots of chocolates. She fills the stockings of the kids who didn’t behave with lumps of coal instead.

The Epiphany day, the 6th of January, is considered the last day of the Christmas holiday and everyone takes the Christmas tree down on that day. In Italy there is a saying " L'Epifania che ogni festa si porta via" which roughly translated means “The Epiphany takes away all festivity”.

In most Italian regions, even adults give little presents to each other and so do lovers with stockings full of chocolate, that are similar to those that La Befana leaves for the kids.

Everyone knows La Befana as an old woman, usually ugly, who wears an old, long and big skirt with colourful patches, a scarf on her shoulders, a hat and a pair of old and broken shoes.

http://goitaly.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=goitaly&cdn=travel&tm=290&f=00&su=p531.56.342.ip_&tt=2&bt=1&bts=1&st=11&zu=http%3A//www.mybefana.it/english/befana_home_en.html

I think Santa Claus would like La Befana. I think they might have a lot in common.:smile:


Now this is a scenario I'm familiar with and I agree that Santa would like LaBefana and maybe he's just one of the many who continue bring joys to little girls and boys.

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Tue 12/27/11 04:02 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 12/27/11 04:08 PM

:heart: MorningSong:heart:

I love you, too. And, so does God. :heart:

But, I will always be too Pagan for the Christians and too Christian for the Pagans. Such is the fate of a Catholic witch. ohwell

But, please, don't waste your concern on me. I am very happy and have no intention of changing for anyone. :heart: flowerforyou



Ruth... NEVER change for ANYONE.

LOVE You ,Ruth.


ps...NO man could EVER change any of us ,anyway .

Even God doesn't try to CHANGE us .

Instead,GOD just makes us BRAND NEW.:heart::heart::heart:

HAVE A BLESSED NEW YEAR, RUTH !!!
flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


Ruth34611's photo
Tue 12/27/11 04:04 PM


:heart: MorningSong:heart:

I love you, too. And, so does God. :heart:

But, I will always be too Pagan for the Christians and too Christian for the Pagans. Such is the fate of a Catholic witch. ohwell

But, please, don't waste your concern on me. I am very happy and have no intention of changing for anyone. :heart: flowerforyou



Ruth... NEVER change for ANYONE.

LOVE You ,Ruth.
flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou




flowers

Redykeulous's photo
Tue 12/27/11 04:05 PM



The sacred-texts website presents FALSE

information ,especially in regards to anything concerning the bible .


NONE of what you shared in your 2 posts on King Solomon , line

up with The Word of God at all, Rainbow.


IF you want to just share legends from that webiste, that is

fine ; but again, the website offers nothing but false

information as far as the bible is concerned( I wouldn't be

surprised if even the legends are incorrect also ).


Just letting you know in case you are not aware of

this,Rainbow.flowerforyou


Sadly, many websites today on the internet, do not present the

Truth of the Word of God at all.


This is why it is so importantt to study and know the Word of God

for one self.


:heart::heart::heart:


They are ALL legends, you believe in one while others have their own. To say that others are wrong is only the opinion of one falible human judging the beliefs of yet another falible human.

What does it matter to you as along as the beliefs result in human behavior that is kind, generous, caring, and includes an acceptance of some form of human dignity and responsibility for all that exists?

Your sacred texts are sacred to you and what you take from them comes from sources unknown and it works the same for everyone.

Perhaps judgement of whose beleifs are right and wrong are not even what the creator intends. Perhaps the intention is to judge a person's characther and behavior and beliefs are of no consequence.

Imagine that and then ask yourself, what guides human behavior and what does it matter if the behavior was intended for a good outcome.




Redy....If one wants to believe it is ALL legend,

that is one's own perogative.....In my post above,I was

especially addressing WEBSITES which MISQUOTE the bible.

Which,btw, are MANY .


THAT was my whole point...... waaayyyyy toooo much

misrepresentation is going on, of what the bible is truly

saying....due of course ,to lack of True undersrtanding of the

Word of God.


But ONLY GOD has the POWER to OPEN one's eyes anyway, so one may

FINALLY SEE THE TRUTH ....and finally gain True UNDERSTANDING

of GOD'S HOLY WORD and WHO HE TRULY IS .


No man can do this.

Only God .

Only God Draws and Opens eyes...All in His Own Time.

And When God Does ,He does it at just the Right Time.

God's Timing is Always Perfect.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



:heart::heart::heart:


There are many bibles and many translations of those many bibles. Every time a new translation makes its way into the genre there are new interpretations.

Maybe your particular bible and your particular interpretation do not match up with others - why would you 'in the name of God, presume to determine who and which is right and wrong?

That a rhetorical question by the way, just something more to think about, outside of scripture that is.

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Tue 12/27/11 04:19 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 12/27/11 04:51 PM
ALL the Bible Translations AGREE ,AND DO NOT

CHANGE OR ADD OR DETRACT FROM THE WORD OF GOD

( except for some cults who have created their own version,and

therefore,have actually added or taken away From the Word of

God, and NOT just translated the Word ) !!!


ALL Denominations AGREE on ALL the BASIC FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS OF

GOD'S WORD..and that is All that is important...

The disagreements are on minor issues, NOT on the Basic

Fundamental Truths !!!



BUT...there are MANY false websites that COMPLETELY CHANGE AND

TWIST ....AND ALSO ADD OR TAKE AWAY FROM The Word of God !!!!

ALSO do MANY false teachers out there today !!!!


THAT is what I am referring to , Redy.



:heart::heart::heart:

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Tue 12/27/11 04:33 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 12/27/11 04:37 PM
The Holy Spirit INDWELLING a Believer, IS THE ONLY ONE

WHO IS ABLE TO SHOW a Believer , when the TRUTH of God's Word is

BEING Spoken or not.

ONLY THE HOLY SPIRIT INDWELLING ALL BELIEVERS ,IS THE ONE WHO

LEADS AND GUIDES ALL BELIEVERS INTO ALL TRUTH.....it is NOT of

man's doing.


This is HOW one comes to KNOW ALL TRUTH..God does NOT leave

Believers in the dark, once they have become SAVED.


God makes His Word CLEAR now to ALL Believers.....because ALL

Believers eyes have now been OPENED....AND also,because the Holy

Spirit now INDWELLING ALL Believers, now becomes The Believers'

TEACHER AND GUIDE.


Point being....Believers are now able to KNOW THE TRUTH......and

are also able to RECOGNIZE when The Truth is NOT being taught.



God's Sheep HEAR and KNOW HIS VOICE now, and the Voice of a

Stranger they will NOT follow !!!



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 12/27/11 05:26 PM

The Holy Spirit INDWELLING a Believer, IS THE ONLY ONE

WHO IS ABLE TO SHOW a Believer , when the TRUTH of God's Word is

BEING Spoken or not.

ONLY THE HOLY SPIRIT INDWELLING ALL BELIEVERS ,IS THE ONE WHO

LEADS AND GUIDES ALL BELIEVERS INTO ALL TRUTH.....it is NOT of

man's doing.


This is HOW one comes to KNOW ALL TRUTH..God does NOT leave

Believers in the dark, once they have become SAVED.


God makes His Word CLEAR now to ALL Believers.....because ALL

Believers eyes have now been OPENED....AND also,because the Holy

Spirit now INDWELLING ALL Believers, now becomes The Believers'

TEACHER AND GUIDE.


Point being....Believers are now able to KNOW THE TRUTH......and

are also able to RECOGNIZE when The Truth is NOT being taught.



God's Sheep HEAR and KNOW HIS VOICE now, and the Voice of a

Stranger they will NOT follow !!!



flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


MS.. Did the Holy Spirit tell you u should celebrate chr-stmas and easter? or did man?

Ruth34611's photo
Tue 12/27/11 05:31 PM
Poor La Befana. Her thread's been hijacked. :cry:

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Tue 12/27/11 05:35 PM

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Tue 12/27/11 05:48 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 12/27/11 06:04 PM
Miles....Born Again Believers (which is who true

christians are ) worship and celebrate Jesus EVERY DAY AND

ALWAYS AND FOREVER, not just at Christmas or easter.


We NOW KNOW the Message and TRUE Meaning of christmas and

easter..BECAUSE WE PERSONALLY KNOW OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST...

THAT is WHY we Celebrate the TRUE meaning.


But people who are just caught up in religious bondage

only, won't even celebrate christmas or easter at all, but

will always condemn others that do....and it

is only because they know not the PERSON OF JESUS CHRIST

yet in their hearts.........which is what christmas and easter

is all about.

But When they do ask Jesus Christ into their hearts one day, THEN

they will LOVE everyone too, and will not condemn anymore

Amen.
:heart::heart::heart:

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Tue 12/27/11 06:02 PM

The book of Job tells the story of an extremely righteous man named Job, who was very prosperous and had seven sons and three daughters. Constantly fearing that his sons may have sinned and "cursed God in their hearts", he habitually offered burnt offerings as a pardon for their sins.[2] The "sons of God" and Satan (literally "the adversary") present themselves to God, and God asks Satan his opinion on Job. Satan answers that Job is pious only because God has put a "wall around" him and "blessed" his favourite servant with prosperity, but if God were to stretch out his hand and strike everything that Job had, then he would surely curse God. God gives Satan permission to test Job's righteousness.[3]
All of Job's possessions are destroyed; the 500 yoke of oxen and 500 donkeys carried off by Sabeans, the 7000 sheep were burned up by 'The fire of God which fell from the sky,' the 3000 camels were stolen by the Chaldeans and the house of the firstborn collapsed, due to a mighty wind, killing all of Job's offspring, but Job does not curse God but instead shaves his head, tears his clothes and says, "Naked I came out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return: Lord has given, and Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of Lord."[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Job

Doing a backtrack of these Sabeans.:smile:


Shalom.

The Book of Job and the sons of g-d when given a christian thought destroys what was really happening.

this term is really The Sons of Elohim and Presenting themselves before him is this.

in the Law 3 times a year all males and thier families came before Yahweh.. commands throughout eternity.. we see the feast of Tabernacles being kept after Yahshua's return still in Zech 14.. The 3 feast were Passover/unleavened bread.. 2.. The first of Firstfruits ( Pente(50)cost) and the Feast of Tabernacles.

All these times it is calling the Sons of Elohim before him.. His people.

Satan also comes as a Tare/tares.amoung the people. Just as the parables speak of.

The Book of Jude says satan squabbles with Michael over Moses bones yet he does not accuse him but says Yahweh Rebuke you.

Job is a good example of Living the Faith not just saying Oh I am saved. He knew that if he did what was right then everything would be ok because it's Yahweh's will.. whether in good times or bad.

This is how we know the Spirits.. Where they come from. Test the Spirits.. They that are from Yahweh will not go against his law.

Job and Faith go hand in Hand as does Abraham, Yahshua and the roman soldier.. not the religious of the day. They condemn people who do not have all the luck in the world and claims thiers is a higher power. When being tested is a Blessing according to the Sermon on the Mount.

Job is a book of Obeying and not looking back or for excuses. But of Prayer and Thanksgiving nomatter what our circumstances are.. The Sons of g-d (Elohim) are his chosen people who only will follow that still small voice that upholds the tenets of Yahweh not destroy them.. These they will understand are the Tares of the world..Blessings..Miles


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