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True Conrad.
There are lots of sites than can be classed as being like wolves in sheep's clothing. |
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Edited by
5apphire
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Sun 12/18/11 02:05 PM
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It was not from any Islam forum. There are many sources for what I posted, where I got it from was from biblebelievers.org. This is one of that site's pages: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm |
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Stop and smell the flowers once in a while. It doesn't always have to be a rose. Consider the lilies of the field. Dandelions are fun to blow, too.
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Edited by
5apphire
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Sun 12/18/11 02:36 PM
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Stop and smell the flowers once in a while. It doesn't always have to be a rose. Consider the lilies of the field. Dandelions are fun to blow, too. And to quote an old English saying, what's that got to do with the price of fish. Oops - sorry trout. 
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Stop and smell the flowers once in a while. It doesn't always have to be a rose. Consider the lilies of the field. Dandelions are fun to blow, too. And to quote an old English saying, what's that got to do with the price of fish. Oops - sorry trout. It is okay. I know I have to work, tonight. Its not always about fishes and loaves. Its not always about bread. For me it is about loving what I do. Nothing against bread as I have loved listening to them. Yahweh has helped me a lot. Yahweh's bread has been good for me to eat. Yahweh got busted for working the Sabbath so I know he will be there with me. He is a great comforter. A good friend to help me when I have to do the impossible. He has given me a lot of creative alternatives.  
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Sun 12/18/11 04:39 PM
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Sorry, we Jews were here first. Jesus was a Jew. Sabbath is Friday after the sun goes down when you can see 3 stars until Saturday at sun down when you can see 3 stars. During His lifetime, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the "homeland" of the ancestors of those who today style themselves "Jews". Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their "homeland", and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a "Jew". The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%252810%252900246-6 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MiamiImageURL&_cid=276895&_user=10&_pii=S0002929710002466&_check=y&_coverDate=2010-06-11&view=c&_gw=y&wchp=dGLzVlk-zSkzS&md5=6911cf3ab22fb01510fee07891397de4/1-s2.0-S0002929710002466-main.pdf What we call jews today may have come from there, but in the time of mention they were not "jews". Again, no where in either the new or old testament is Jesus referred to as a jew. When mention of a jew in the bible it is referring to a resident of Judea again without regard to race or religion. ps. the first link didn't work. In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same. Ummmm...it was called "Judea" for a reason.....that reason was Judaism. 
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 12/19/11 04:31 AM
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True Conrad. There are lots of sites than can be classed as being like wolves in sheep's clothing. EXACTLY 5APPHIRE !!!!!!! Cowboy stated he got his info off Biblebelievers.org .... this organization is based out of Australia ,and IS COMPLETELY ANTI-SEMITIC, and SADLY have locations thruout the world, including the United States.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Believers http://www.fighthatred.com/web-of-hate/fundamentalists/551-biblebelieversorgau They are pseudo-christian only !!! Wolves in sheepsclothing !! THE WAY TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THESE WEBSITES WHICH SPREAD FALSEHOODS, IS TO BE TRULY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THE WORD OF GOD !!! GOD'S WORD SAYS TO PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM !!!! THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE STILL GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE !!!  |
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True Conrad. There are lots of sites than can be classed as being like wolves in sheep's clothing. EXACTLY 5APPHIRE !!!!!!! In fact, Cowboy got his info off Biblebieversrs.org ,which is an organization based out of Australia ,WHICH IS COMPLETELY ANTI-SEMETIC, and SADLY has locations thruout the world, including the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Believers http://www.fighthatred.com/web-of-hate/fundamentalists/551-biblebelieversorgau They are pseudo-christian only !!! Wolves in sheepsclothing !! THE WAY TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THESE WEBSITES WHICH SPREAD FALSEHOODS, IS TO BE TRULY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THE WORD OF GOD !!! GOD SAYS TO PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM !!!! THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE STILL GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE !!! Thank you so much MorningSong. Israel and the Jewish people have far more supporters than these anti-semites would care to acknowledge and Israel and the Jewish people certainly acknowledge and appreciate the support from all those people. |
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My dearest and closest lifelong friends
are Jewish!!! I am praying this anti-semitic hatred is stopped !!!! |
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Edited by
5apphire
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Mon 12/19/11 04:42 AM
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My dearest and closest lifelong friends are Jewish!!! I am praying this anti-semitic hatred is stopped !!!! You just made another! One thing I have learned from various forums is anti-semitissm is built-in deep into someone's psyche. It is hard to break their hate. You can bombard them with facts to decimate their idiotic and hateful conspiracy theories, blood libels, beliefs in the most ridiculous views etc., etc., but they rarely budge. I think it is because very very deep down they rather admire the Jews but of course don't want to admit it and as we have seen from a raging anti-semeites in the past on forums they refuse to believe historical facts and still spew out rubbish against the Jews. The Jewish people will survive and thrive even with these anti-semites! Maybe people find it easier to hate than to love? And certainly people don't find it easy to understand history. Plus you get the non-believers in God who perhaps had such an intense religious upbringing and schooling that they totally rebel in adolescence/adulthood and go against everything they were taught and that leads to their antisemitism. However those in support of the Jewish people should not give up educating the haters and educate them on historical facts and the present situation, because there is a good chance some may be won over, and in fact I did win over a few on another forum. In the end they were simply stumped against my and others' posts. |
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((((((((
5apphire))))))))) Be Blessed, 5apphire...You have a Beautiul Day Now !!!
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(((((((( 5apphire))))))))) Be Blessed, 5apphire...You have a Beautiul Day Now !!! Thanks and bless you too. Have a lovely day! |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 12/19/11 06:00 PM
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Miles...Jesus being our Sabbath rest ,
is directed to born again christians. We ENTERED into that Sabbath rest now, ONLY because we have now become born again . BTW Miles...You presented only PART of scripture referring to the Sabbath.... One has to study ALL of Scripture, and NOT JUST PART, IN ORDER TO SEE AND UNDERSTAND AND GET ALL OF WHAT GOD IS SAYING IN HIS WORD ABOUT THE SABBATH.... ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT ENTERING INTO THAT SABBATH REST NOW !!!! WHICH COMES WHEN WE ARE BORN AGAIN!!! And when we are born again, GOD LIVES WITHIN us now (remember, JESUS is also Lord over the Sabbath ) , and therefore, THIS IS WHY we are ABLE now to KEEP ALL THE LAW , by the KEEPING of the 2 NEW COMMANDMENTS Jesus gave us...which FULFILLS ALL the law and the prophets. Again...on those 2 NEW COMMANDMENTS that Jesus gave us, hang ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS . No Law is EVER broken or EVER passes away, thru the Keeping of these 2 New Commandments( LOVE GOD and LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF )that Jesus gave us !!!! NOTICE !!!!!! GOD'S LAW IS LOVE !!!!!!!!!! Regarding the Sabbath ( one more time now ): We have NOW ENTERED into that REST ...that SABBATH REST... found ONLY in Christ Jesus...WHEN we become BORN AGAIN. Born again christians are not under law but UNDER grace now. BUT....just because we are NO longer UNDER law , but UNDER GRACE NOW, does NOT mean we BREAK any of GOD'S LAWS !!!! How? By the KEEPING of the 2 New Commandments ( that GOD LIVING in us now ENABLES us to KEEP )....and on these 2 NEW COMMANDMENTS now HANG ALL the Law and the Prophets !!!! ALSO Notice..God ENABLES us now to KEEP His Law !!! GOD IS LOVE !!! GOD'S LAW IS LOVE !!! AND HIS GOSPEL IS PEACE !!! Praying God will make this perfectly clear now to All. God Bless You All . |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Tue 12/20/11 02:55 AM
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The Sabbath predates Jesus and Christianity. It is part of the
Ten Commandments and was always a special way to bring God into ones life on a continuous basis. Jesus observed the Sabbath. =-=-=-= Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. (Exodus 20:8-11) =-=-=-= Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter or your male servant or your female servant, or your ox or your donkey or any of your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates, that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you. You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day. (Deuteronomy 5:12-15) =-=-=-= There are 2 original reasons given to observe the Sabbath. 1. Based on creation, a time was set aside each week by God as a day of rest and this is interpreted as meaning that one day a week should be reserved for rest and contemplation and reverence of all of God's creation - taken as a direct commandment (Exodus). 2. Based on redemption, as a recognition that God has saved us all This is interpreted that each week we should rest and devote our time that day to introspection of God and our God given gift of freedom (Deuteronomy).
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Miles...Jesus being our Sabbath rest , is directed to born again christians. We ENTERED into that Sabbath rest now, ONLY because we have now become born again . BTW Miles...You presented only PART of scripture referring to the Sabbath.... One has to study ALL of Scripture, and NOT JUST PART, IN ORDER TO SEE AND UNDERSTAND AND GET ALL OF WHAT GOD IS SAYING IN HIS WORD ABOUT THE SABBATH.... ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT ENTERING INTO THAT SABBATH REST NOW !!!! WHICH COMES WHEN WE ARE BORN AGAIN!!! And when we are born again, GOD LIVES WITHIN us now (remember, JESUS is also Lord over the Sabbath ) , and therefore, THIS IS WHY we are ABLE now to KEEP ALL THE LAW , by the KEEPING of the 2 NEW COMMANDMENTS Jesus gave us...which FULFILLS ALL the law and the prophets. Again...on those 2 NEW COMMANDMENTS that Jesus gave us, hang ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS . No Law is EVER broken or EVER passes away, thru the Keeping of these 2 New Commandments( LOVE GOD and LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF )that Jesus gave us !!!! NOTICE !!!!!! GOD'S LAW IS LOVE !!!!!!!!!! Regarding the Sabbath ( one more time now ): We have NOW ENTERED into that REST ...that SABBATH REST... found ONLY in Christ Jesus...WHEN we become BORN AGAIN. Born again christians are not under law but UNDER grace now. BUT....just because we are NO longer UNDER law , but UNDER GRACE NOW, does NOT mean we BREAK any of GOD'S LAWS !!!! How? By the KEEPING of the 2 New Commandments ( that GOD LIVING in us now ENABLES us to KEEP )....and on these 2 NEW COMMANDMENTS now HANG ALL the Law and the Prophets !!!! ALSO Notice..God ENABLES us now to KEEP His Law !!! GOD IS LOVE !!! GOD'S LAW IS LOVE !!! AND HIS GOSPEL IS PEACE !!! Praying God will make this perfectly clear now to All. God Bless You All . Does the Holy Spirit go against Yahweh's law? His Sabbath? Does Yahshua rest on Yahweh's Sabbath to man today or did he give himself a day? |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 12/27/11 06:16 PM
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The Holy Spirit never goes against God's law...and
neither do christians... I already explained this many times...but I realize you don't understand yet ,Miles.... but I am truly believing one day you will. I will just leave it at that now.
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I realize you don't understand yet ,Miles.... but I am truly believing one day you will. I will just leave it at that now. I know.. Thats quite an answer.. I do not have the Holy Spirit because only someone who believes as MS does can have it..I would hate to be the Roman Soldier Yahshua spoke of in all of Israel.. Blessings..Miles |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 12/27/11 09:05 PM
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Miles.....
It is NEVER about us...... It's ONLY about Him..... Our Creator and Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. That NAME that is ABOVE Every Name..... the Same NAME OF JESUS.. spoken in every language... you call Him Yehshua......I call him Jesus. SAME NAME !!! THAT NAME IS JESUS.....Just translated into different languages...but THE NAME NEVER changes !!! There is only ONE NAME by which man can be Saved.... That NAME is JESUS. (or Yehshua as you call Him in your language). Same Name. Same Lord and Saviour..... Amen. ps...and God SEES and KNOWS the heart...and therefore KNOWS if we are calling and believing upon The NAME OF HIS SON JESUS CHRIST , or, calling upon another .....for there are already many FALSE Christs gone out into the world.
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Miles..... It is NEVER about us...... It's ONLY about Him..... Our Creator and Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. That NAME that is ABOVE Every Name..... the Same NAME OF JESUS.. spoken in every language... you call Him Yehshua......I call him Jesus. SAME NAME. There is only ONE NAME by which man can be Saved.... That NAME is JESUS. Amen. MorningSong, you fail to realise that while you sit here insinuating that "we", don't know "God's Word", you sit here spouting your version of "man's interpretation" like it was divine. |
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Miles..... It is NEVER about us...... It's ONLY about Him..... Our Creator and Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. That NAME that is ABOVE Every Name..... the Same NAME OF JESUS.. spoken in every language... you call Him Yehshua......I call him Jesus. SAME NAME !!! THAT NAME IS JESUS.....Just translated into different languages...but THE NAME NEVER changes !!! There is only ONE NAME by which man can be Saved.... That NAME is JESUS. (or Yehshua as you call Him in your language). Same Name. Same Lord and Saviour..... Amen. ps...and God SEES and KNOWS the heart...and therefore KNOWS if we are calling and believing upon The NAME OF HIS SON JESUS CHRIST , or, calling upon another .....for there are already many FALSE Christs gone out into the world. Ok since you want to talk about names how they change from different languages. This is a quote from an English article about a Israel Hebrew man. " Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu" Netanyahu would you please tell me what the English equivelant is? Is it netanjes? Please .. Blessings..Miles |
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