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The U.S. Navy SEALs on the hunt for Usama bin Laden killed the Al Qaeda leader within 2 minutes of entering his fortress-like home in Pakistan, a new book reveals.
Chuck Pfarrer, a former SEAL Team Six assault-element commander, says it only took the SEALs 90 to 120 seconds – from landing to firing the fatal shot – to take out bin Laden, according to his new book, “Seal Target Geronimo,” the New York Post reports. Pfarrer insists that the SEALs were not on a “kill mission,” and that the team would have captured bin Laden had he surrendered. Pfarrer’s book reveals that the Seals’ nickname for bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, were Bert and Ernie, the Courier Mail reports. When they were first told they were going to Pakistan to pick up a high-value person who was holed up in a high-walled compound, they asked, “So is this Bert or Ernie?” According to an extract from a Sunday Times report, two Seals kicked in bin Laden’s bedroom door. Bin Laden then popped out and then slammed the door shut. The room, the Navy Seals recalled, “smelt like old clothing, like a guest bedroom in a grandmother’s house”. Inside was the Al Qaeda leader and his youngest wife, Amal, who was screaming as he pushed her in front of him. “No, no, don’t do this!” she shouted as her husband reached across the bed for his AK-47 assault rifle,” the extract read. The SEALs reacted instantly, firing in the same second. One round thudded into the mattress. The other aimed at Bin Laden’s head, grazed Amal in the calf. As Bin Laden’s hand reached for the gun, the Seals fired again, killing the Al Qaeda leader. Pfarrer’s book, according to the Post, also reveals that the SEALs were angry with President Obama for announcing bin Laden’s death on TV just hours after they completed the mission on May 1. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/11/06/seals-killed-usama-bin-laden-within-minutes-new-book-reveals/#ixzz1cyBTJ4gy I agree with the Seal's, just another mistake Obama can add to his collection. |
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I don't see how that was a mistake.
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I don't see how that was a mistake. Well for one, Obama put all of Seal Team 6 and their families in danger. We have NEVER confirmed a mission of this team so soon after a mission they complete, it is usually over a decade before they even identify who or what team is involved(Being there is over 7,000 Seals and only 1% of them belong to DEVGRU and a LOT of the Afgans know who they are and my guess is the Taliban and Al Qaeda does too). |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable.
There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. |
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Uh oh, you just wrote DEVGRU
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Those SEALS owe their lives to President Obama. If you read the military accounts of the planning, they were ready to go with a typical helicopter assault. It was President Obama that requested additional support and wanted the SEALS to have the ability to fight their way out of Pakistan should anything go wrong.
Well, long story short, they added the 2 chinook helicopters for back up. That came in pretty damn handy when one of the assualt team choppers went down in the compound. Thanks, President Obama. For taking out Bin Laden and getting our SEALS all home safely. |
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My bells are going off.
I don't believe any of that O.P. post. |
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As someone related to seal trained personell
these missions are their job, along with the risks,,, |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. |
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The seal team 6 had/has a couple hundred members, so why does one persons book represent how all of them feel?
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. They should be worried. People with information (truth) about things like that tend to disappear. |
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Those SEALS owe their lives to President Obama. If you read the military accounts of the planning, they were ready to go with a typical helicopter assault. It was President Obama that requested additional support and wanted the SEALS to have the ability to fight their way out of Pakistan should anything go wrong. Well, long story short, they added the 2 chinook helicopters for back up. That came in pretty damn handy when one of the assualt team choppers went down in the compound. Thanks, President Obama. For taking out Bin Laden and getting our SEALS all home safely. Oh you mean President Obama greenlighting what the heads of the special forces command wanted? |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Really? By announcing we had intel we forced them to 'move' assets (a moving target leaves tracks). We also forced them to take action to protect from 'seal team' assults (which also creates a 'signature' to intell). and focuses them away from the 'predators' which then strike while the enemy was looking for 'seal teams'. |
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Those SEALS owe their lives to President Obama. If you read the military accounts of the planning, they were ready to go with a typical helicopter assault. It was President Obama that requested additional support and wanted the SEALS to have the ability to fight their way out of Pakistan should anything go wrong. Well, long story short, they added the 2 chinook helicopters for back up. That came in pretty damn handy when one of the assualt team choppers went down in the compound. Thanks, President Obama. For taking out Bin Laden and getting our SEALS all home safely. Oh you mean President Obama greenlighting what the heads of the special forces command wanted? That's a bunch of BS. I watched the Robert Gates interview regarding the mission and he stated clearly that it was President Obama that requested the additional forces and Chinooks be sent as a back up should something go wrong. He wanted the SEALS to have an option to "Fight their way out" if they had to. You don't hear very much about how those SEALS got out of Pakistan after their Blackhawk went down. They only went in with two Blackhawks...extracted by the back up units. Bottom line is, President Obama GOT BIN LADEN! You just have a hard time accepting it. End of story. |
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Here is another interesting bit of information:
Chuck Pfarrer is a novelist and screenwriter. He is a "former" Navy SEAL....he graduated buds training in 1981 and served 8 years. That was over 20 years ago. Did he really talk to any of the SEALS that were on the mission??? CNN reported: “Every member of the Navy SEAL team on the raid has been questioned by superiors about whether they spoke to author Chuck Pfarrer, a former Navy SEAL, about the mission in violation of orders, a U.S. official told CNN. The official, who has direct knowledge of the questioning, told CNN that the SEALs all denied speaking with Pfarrer.” |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. |
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Hmmmm...that's strange. The SEALS were not supposed to talk to anybody. Their superiors qustioned them in regards to whether or not they talked to Pfarrer, the answer was "No". If the SEALS had talked to Pfarrer, that would constitute a "violation of orders". Do you think SEALS routinely violate orders? So who is lying? The SEALs that were involved in the raid or Pfarrer? I think Pfarrer stands to profit with the sale of his book...that is a motive. Did Pfarrer put the SEALS in greater jeopardy, and our National Security at great risk if it is true, and he outlines in explicit detail how the operation was conducted??? Sounds a lot worse than what he is acusing the President of. And he is doing it for profit. Something is very hokey about this whole thread and Mr. Pfarrer. JMO |
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