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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Really? By announcing we had intel we forced them to 'move' assets (a moving target leaves tracks). We also forced them to take action to protect from 'seal team' assults (which also creates a 'signature' to intell). and focuses them away from the 'predators' which then strike while the enemy was looking for 'seal teams'. no, more like the government (obama) paid an informant millions of dollars to find him... bush was very good at paying informants too.. |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Really? By announcing we had intel we forced them to 'move' assets (a moving target leaves tracks). We also forced them to take action to protect from 'seal team' assults (which also creates a 'signature' to intell). and focuses them away from the 'predators' which then strike while the enemy was looking for 'seal teams'. Al Qaeda and the Taliban are experts at moving assets right under our noses with leaving little if NO tracks. |
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Those SEALS owe their lives to President Obama. If you read the military accounts of the planning, they were ready to go with a typical helicopter assault. It was President Obama that requested additional support and wanted the SEALS to have the ability to fight their way out of Pakistan should anything go wrong. Well, long story short, they added the 2 chinook helicopters for back up. That came in pretty damn handy when one of the assualt team choppers went down in the compound. Thanks, President Obama. For taking out Bin Laden and getting our SEALS all home safely. Oh you mean President Obama greenlighting what the heads of the special forces command wanted? 
That's a bunch of BS. I watched the Robert Gates interview regarding the mission and he stated clearly that it was President Obama that requested the additional forces and Chinooks be sent as a back up should something go wrong. He wanted the SEALS to have an option to "Fight their way out" if they had to. You don't hear very much about how those SEALS got out of Pakistan after their Blackhawk went down. They only went in with two Blackhawks...extracted by the back up units. Bottom line is, President Obama GOT BIN LADEN! You just have a hard time accepting it. End of story. The Seal's GOT Bin Laden off of intel that was first obtained during the Bush Administration.
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Here is another interesting bit of information: Chuck Pfarrer is a novelist and screenwriter. He is a "former" Navy SEAL....he graduated buds training in 1981 and served 8 years. That was over 20 years ago. Did he really talk to any of the SEALS that were on the mission??? CNN reported: “Every member of the Navy SEAL team on the raid has been questioned by superiors about whether they spoke to author Chuck Pfarrer, a former Navy SEAL, about the mission in violation of orders, a U.S. official told CNN. The official, who has direct knowledge of the questioning, told CNN that the SEALs all denied speaking with Pfarrer.” Your just plain gulliable if you think Seal's who served in the same unit for years don't still talk to each other. Keep drinking the Obama Kool Aid. |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Not to mention a nice trap was set by AQ and the Taliban knowing that DEVGRU would respond to a meeting of a high value target. We wouldn't have lost over 15 members of DEVGRU if Obama didn't brag to try to get himself re-elected. Their blood is on that morons hands. |
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Hmmmm...that's strange. The SEALS were not supposed to talk to anybody. Their superiors qustioned them in regards to whether or not they talked to Pfarrer, the answer was "No". If the SEALS had talked to Pfarrer, that would constitute a "violation of orders". Do you think SEALS routinely violate orders? So who is lying? The SEALs that were involved in the raid or Pfarrer? I think Pfarrer stands to profit with the sale of his book...that is a motive. Did Pfarrer put the SEALS in greater jeopardy, and our National Security at great risk if it is true, and he outlines in explicit detail how the operation was conducted??? Sounds a lot worse than what he is acusing the President of. And he is doing it for profit. Something is very hokey about this whole thread and Mr. Pfarrer. JMO Some of them have also talked to Richard Marcinko, founder of DEVGRU and first commanding officer who ISN'T writing a book about this or trying to get his a$$ re-elected and he back up this claim too and thinks Obama is a complete moron. |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Really? By announcing we had intel we forced them to 'move' assets (a moving target leaves tracks). We also forced them to take action to protect from 'seal team' assults (which also creates a 'signature' to intell). and focuses them away from the 'predators' which then strike while the enemy was looking for 'seal teams'. no, more like the government (obama) paid an informant millions of dollars to find him... bush was very good at paying informants too.. President Bush was also good at interrogating terrorists and criminals too. |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Really? By announcing we had intel we forced them to 'move' assets (a moving target leaves tracks). We also forced them to take action to protect from 'seal team' assults (which also creates a 'signature' to intell). and focuses them away from the 'predators' which then strike while the enemy was looking for 'seal teams'. no, more like the government (obama) paid an informant millions of dollars to find him... bush was very good at paying informants too.. President Bush was also good at interrogating terrorists and criminals too. bush had a military background, whereas obama has none... |
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Quote from Pfarrer interview according to Yahoo.
the president made a statement, and as far as that goes, that was fine, that was the mission statement,” he explained. “But, soon after … politicians began leaking information from every orifice. |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Really? By announcing we had intel we forced them to 'move' assets (a moving target leaves tracks). We also forced them to take action to protect from 'seal team' assults (which also creates a 'signature' to intell). and focuses them away from the 'predators' which then strike while the enemy was looking for 'seal teams'. no, more like the government (obama) paid an informant millions of dollars to find him... bush was very good at paying informants too.. President Bush was also good at interrogating terrorists and criminals too. bush had a military background, whereas obama has none... President Bush also had executive experience where Obama has none... |
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noone was there to know the details of who did or said what
all we know , is the man was brought down while OBAMA was the commander in chief |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Really? By announcing we had intel we forced them to 'move' assets (a moving target leaves tracks). We also forced them to take action to protect from 'seal team' assults (which also creates a 'signature' to intell). and focuses them away from the 'predators' which then strike while the enemy was looking for 'seal teams'. no, more like the government (obama) paid an informant millions of dollars to find him... bush was very good at paying informants too.. President Bush was also good at interrogating terrorists and criminals too. bush had a military background, whereas obama has none... President Bush also had executive experience where Obama has none... Yeah he ran, what three, businesses into the ground. Oh and he was in the Air Guard but he seemed to miss a lot of the "meetings". |
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I don't see how that was a mistake. It isn't a mistake at all. Just empty rhetoric because Obama got Osama and they can't stand it...lol |
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noone was there to know the details of who did or said what all we know , is the man was brought down while OBAMA was the commander in chief AND the majority of the intel was developed while President Bush was in office, why do you think the first thing he did was call President Bush? Not to mention President Bush would be holding Pakistan accountable for harboring Bin Laden and keeping him under the radar and protected. |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Really? By announcing we had intel we forced them to 'move' assets (a moving target leaves tracks). We also forced them to take action to protect from 'seal team' assults (which also creates a 'signature' to intell). and focuses them away from the 'predators' which then strike while the enemy was looking for 'seal teams'. no, more like the government (obama) paid an informant millions of dollars to find him... bush was very good at paying informants too.. President Bush was also good at interrogating terrorists and criminals too. bush had a military background, whereas obama has none... President Bush also had executive experience where Obama has none... Yeah he ran, what three, businesses into the ground. Oh and he was in the Air Guard but he seemed to miss a lot of the "meetings". Governor of Texas, Decorated Military vetean and successful business man vs. a community organizer no comparison. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 11/07/11 06:56 PM
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collecting intel does little unless the intel is ACTED on
they are both important parts of the process, neither to be 'disregarded' as insignificant,, |
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I don't see how that was a mistake. It isn't a mistake at all. Just empty rhetoric because Obama got Osama and they can't stand it...lol Really? He was in the compound and risked his life and pulled the trigger? Wow, im impressed that he did all of that. 
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Really? By announcing we had intel we forced them to 'move' assets (a moving target leaves tracks). We also forced them to take action to protect from 'seal team' assults (which also creates a 'signature' to intell). and focuses them away from the 'predators' which then strike while the enemy was looking for 'seal teams'. no, more like the government (obama) paid an informant millions of dollars to find him... bush was very good at paying informants too.. President Bush was also good at interrogating terrorists and criminals too. bush had a military background, whereas obama has none... President Bush also had executive experience where Obama has none... Yeah he ran, what three, businesses into the ground. Oh and he was in the Air Guard but he seemed to miss a lot of the "meetings". Governor of Texas, Decorated Military vetean and successful business man vs. a community organizer no comparison. constitutional lawyer, and state and us senator, as well as community organizer,,,,actually |
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The absurdity of this thread is laughable. There have been books and television series about seal 6 out there for years. Made 10 to 20 years AFTER the missions were compleated not to mention the government has only disclosed approximately 5 missions this Seal Team has been involved with. Obviously there is a reason these Seals are pissed and worried and I think they have a little more experience then Obama. Perhaps you are right about the 'experience' however the one thing they do not have is a 'world' view from the hot seat. Announcing in the manner he did may have saved 1000's of lives. (Globally). From the Hot Seat it was a necessity (it would have been leaked anyway). All's Obama had to do is say we got him and leave it at that, not say what unit or even branch that got him and he didn't need to jump the gun on it not to mention announce to the world that we found so much intelligence in the compound. Man, I would love to play high stakes poker against that moron. Really? By announcing we had intel we forced them to 'move' assets (a moving target leaves tracks). We also forced them to take action to protect from 'seal team' assults (which also creates a 'signature' to intell). and focuses them away from the 'predators' which then strike while the enemy was looking for 'seal teams'. no, more like the government (obama) paid an informant millions of dollars to find him... bush was very good at paying informants too.. President Bush was also good at interrogating terrorists and criminals too. bush had a military background, whereas obama has none... President Bush also had executive experience where Obama has none... Yeah he ran, what three, businesses into the ground. Oh and he was in the Air Guard but he seemed to miss a lot of the "meetings". Governor of Texas, Decorated Military vetean and successful business man vs. a community organizer no comparison. constitutional lawyer, and state and us senator, as well as community organizer,,,,actually Still would rather have a Harvard MBA, decorated Air Force Pilot, Governor, successful businessman and someone with executive experience then a state senator and a half a term US Senator with NO military experience. |
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