The Tea Party and Ron Paul Cheer for the Uninsured to Die
September 12, 2011
By Robert Sobel

During the Tea Party debate, a question was asked to Libertarian favorite, Ron Paul. Ron Paul was asked if an uninsured 30 year old has a serious accident, who would pay for treatment under your health plan? Paul tried to run around the question and claim that the uninsured would want the government to pay if they wanted a socialist system, but then he finally got to his real answer.

Ron Paul: That is what freedom is all about and taking your own risks. This whole idea that you have to take care of everyone…

(Tea Party crowd cheers)

Moderator: But congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die?

(Tea Party crowd screams YES!)


Ron Paul: I practiced medicine before we had Medicaid in the early 1960′s when I got out of medical school. I practiced medicine at Santa Rosa hospital in San Antonio and the churches took care of them.

See the video here:

The Republican party has shifted to the right over the years, but the radical right-wing has taken a hard stance against reality. Though it might only be a small portion of their members, the fact that the Tea Party could cheer for people to die just because they can’t afford or didn’t buy health insurance is despicable. The conservative war on America is in full swing and if we are to fight back against people who want anarchy, we must vote them all out in 2012.

Edited by Wendy Gittleson

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/09/12/the-tea-party-and-ron-paul-cheer-for-the-uninsured-to-die/

This was sickening.

They would say that of others but would not if it were themselves dying.

This reminded me when I was watching it of my first time in the hospital when I delivered my son. It was a difficult delivery and I lost a lot of blood. Almost died, it was a code four or nine or something along those lines that made the room fill with people suddenly working on me... anyway I delivered at 530 in the morning and got into the hospital room at around 7 am. Well, at 8 a nurses assistant came into the room, she wanted to change the bedding so she told me "Get your lazy *** up and go take a shower or something" so she could do what she wanted to do. Well, I was so weak from loss of blood that when I stood up I would almost black out. But thinking she knew better than I did I held on to the wall dragging my IV stand and went down the hall to the showers. It took me a very long time to get there. Luckily the showers had seats in them so I managed to get a bit of washing done and then began the long trek back to the room holding onto the wall. When I got back the nurses were frantic looking for me and chewed me out for being out of bed so I told them what the other nurses aid had told me to do. They told me I should not have been out of bed and that she was not suppose to tell people stuff like that. I also got an infection from being in that shower stall too soon after delivery.

I realized afterwards that she was a right winger, believing that I was a welfare mom having another kid to up my welfare check and she said what she thought.

She got fired for almost killing me. I wonder if she learned anything of value from it. Probably not, it takes brains/unignorance to learn new things.

Im gonna play both sides here, and I will check later with my brother who is a doctor who works daily in emergency rooms but,,,


I think its good that in most cases I know of, hospitals CANT turn away emergency patients,,, so in the case of someone having a bad accident,, they would have to take him in and bill him later.


However, in the case of terminal illnesses, or treatment that will be long term and ongoing,,,insurance does indeed come into play. That is where we get people in ridiculous debt because hospitals charge INDIVIDUALS much more for the same treatment than they charge insurance companies.So one issue is the lack of checks and balances where medical prices are concerned.


The other issue of course is that very scary idea (that you touch on) that people are so insensitive to the hard times others might fall on(even themself). The notion 'not with my tax money' is a misnomer because its not truly just any one persons tax money. It is the taxes of EVERY american who works, or puts money into the economy in any way,,including those who may have hit hard times or who dont have a private or company insurance plan.


So, yeah, I think in a country where we are all expected to pay into it in one way or another (not JUST income taxes), we should all be expected a certain amount of security for that investment.


just my opinion....

I'm not a fan of Ron Paul but even he's got more compassion to espouse the notion that the sick should just die. Doctors take an oath in this country to save the dying as part of their creed.

Still, while I'm not a fan, at least he has some ideas which can be wrapped into overall solutions. The problem in this country is that there is no balance and compromise.

The "my way or the highway" schtick has gotta' go but won't in a two-party system.

Showing their hatred of other people should show real Americans what they are about and not to back them.

Repub and tea party are the parties of hatred. They house most of the hateful people in this country.

Hate never equals a good end for anyone who participates in it.

I think , sometimes, the line between good and bad, or practical and harmful

is hard for many of us to discern


I know there are truly 'hateful' people out there, but I think most people just get their lines crossed with all the overload of information and misinformation that they are fed daily,,,,,

I used to think to myself, hearing a right winger speak of all others with such venom, welfare recipients, minorities (which those two are usually synonymous with right wingers), government, liberals, etc..., their mommas would smack them upside the head if they heard them speaking that way. But the truth is, that is who taught them such ignorant ways.

They don't even know if it is true, they just repeat what they have learned. If they see a poor black person making bad choices on the street one day, they have all the proof they need of what they were taught in their mind anyway because it doesn't verify anything tangible.

One of my things about it is that they don't even realize how they make themselves see life from a low place, making them act lowly and ignorant from the place they look out from. You can't expect them to act with high regard for human life since they have none for themselves.

Hating them back only empowers them.

I try to talk to people like that and encourage them to get educated on the issues so they can understand what it is they deplore.

People will surprise you. I have a friend who went out and learned the issues after my ranting and we argue daily now. But at least we argue about values and not misinformation.

If anyone really believes being a Republican or Democrat makes a lick of a diff, they are missing the big pic. The gangster bankers are really running things anyway. the big O is nothing but a puppet. The whole thing is nothing but an elaborate sham to keep us occupied so we won't figure out what's really going on.

yes, money is power, and we have gone so far in the mindset of equating money with value and people with profit that its going to be hard to get out of

but I do believe there are those who want to try and someone has to TRY or it will really never change,,,I think Obama tries to change some things but he is fought tooth and nail every step of the way...

People claim to want national healthcare but who is gonna pay for it and how? Which country do you think has an ideal plan that would work for the US? I for one lived in Japan and know they have it and it is in no way free. You pay into something completely different from taxes. You pay based on your salary and if you are part time you pay all of it. If you are full time you company pays half. (for example if you brought home 3k a month your bill was about 300+ a month) You also are responsible for 30% of your med bills but there was about a $700 a month cap. I know canadas costs are way out of control. For 1/10 the US population they are paying 190 billion a year.

Those are just the ones i know.

Amen. The entire thing is a big illusion to make us think we have a choice when we don't have much of one at all.

The only way things would ever change is if we stopped voting in the same rich cocksuckers as George Carlin once put it, who don't give a crap about you every single election. Until we stop doing that, nothing will ever get better, just worse. Those who do know history are doomed to repeat it, and we are badly in need of a history lesson.

As for this whole mess with Paul, I will say 2 things.

1. I might question the validity of those who cheered this idea of letting people die. It could be a stretch, but perhaps these people were planted to make him look bad. Again might be a stretch here but just throwing it out there.

2. Real or not, it is unfair to judge Paul based on them. His answer to the question about what to do with sick people who have no insurance, and theirs have very little to do with each other. Judge the man on his own qualities, not those of others surrounding him.

I think the only ones that really want change anymore, are the ones that see through all the lies in the first place. But sadly they are the ones being listened to the least. If people would actually pay attention to them instead of just dismissing them, their ideas and beliefs, maybe things would be a lot different.

I firmly believe the last good president we ever had was JFK, and we all know what happened to him, and later his brother Bobby too. He was the one president that actually tried to overhaul the system, to change the balance of power. Henceforth he was of course killed, and that was the end of that idea. The presidents since then have all been puppets.

priorities, taxes

Switzerland, Britain,,,,in britain its figured in to taxes, not sure how Switzerland pays for it


I dont think either country spends what we do on SPACE or MILITARY,,,,

Its hard for me to think of OBama as a puppet when every other proposal is fought tooth and nail by government officials

It is not hatred to insist that people take responsibility for their lives and their choices.

Ron Paul is absolutely right.

Its not hatred to suggest people take responsibility for their lifes and choices.

IT is passive hatred to assume that people have not just because they fall ill or have an accident, and it is passive hatred to applaud the idea of letting people die because of their financial situation.

It is another form of blaming victims so that corporations (insurance companies) can milk them out of more money by making them feel an obligation to pay them. ITs a terrible system really, that charges individuals so much more than necessary and insurance companies so much less than individuals. But the status quo allows it and then belittles those who cant afford either the HUGE individual costs or the insurance premiums by suggesting they should therefore just die.

It is also passive hatred to live where the MAJORITY (even those who fall on hard times) spend MOST their lifetime working and paying into an economy where these corporations get richer, and then are cheered on to die because they happen to fall upon times which affect their finances adversely.

I interpret their reaction as frustration now turning to anger at the socialist direction our country is taking.

I interpret it as the growing inhumane trend which puts profits above human life. It can be done because other countries do it, but our priorities would rather spend those funds going into space and having the latest technology that makes our lives easier and allows us to send spaceships to space.


Let poor americans die, but please dont touch our space shuttles or tax the rich. Its a very screwed up set of priorities we have become accustomed to,, IMHO

I agree that we have very screwed up priorities on both ends of the spectrum. Balance....it's all about balance.