well it took me a long time to figure out what works for me, but yes, I think it is important that we design our "standards" as it were based on actions that we can feel good about

Laughs . This is not about my feelings on it, it is on yours.

You are the one using it to get to know them better while you date. You tell me how long in before you use it to know them better? And you tell me how meaningful is it?

Maybe you missed what I have said already. That's ok, I'll repeat it for you. I don't set a time frame when it comes to sex. I like to see how things go and take it from there.

As for the meaningfulness, it's going to depend on the person I'm with.

You're the one who keeps saying it's not meaningful, so that's why I asked you what meaningful meant to you. That way I can understand where you're coming from. Get it?

Do you not get to know someone better when you have sex with them? I certainly do.

unless they're inflatable with a tag


sorry couldn't resist


ok ok - I'm leaving now......

Some one i am just dating honestly , sex would not be very meaningful, it would be what it is. That would be why i don't date around.

I did say before that I prefer to date one person. So maybe our idea of dating is different. Since you wouldn't answer the question about what meaningful means to you, maybe you'll explain what dating means to you?

Meaningful for me would be someone who gives a chit about me and my life.

See i think to me what you describe would be a FB. Not a FWB. Just a FB. Take them out have few laughs go do your deeds and your done. No heartache when it ends, no wondering what should have been. Just sex with someone your dating.

Dating = revolving door.
Seeing someone = one on one , no other women involved.

So, for some reason, you're assuming I date people who don't give a shyt about me and my life. What gave you that idea?

And where did you get the idea that I was talking about a **** buddy? If that's what I had been talking about, I wouldn't have said dating.

And my use of the word dating in this context would be the same as seeing someone.

Really? I mean really? You think guys you are just dating give a crap?

I'm going to guess this is a general question, since I've given no info on who I've dated or the kind of people I've dated. That being said, do you not give a shyt about women you date? Are you saying that all men do not give a shyt about who they date?

Here is a big clue in case you have not figured it out yet through your own experience with your own relationships or dating or whatever you choose to call it. MEN Do not give a crap about some woman they are "just dating". If a man has any serious intentions HE WILL NOT say "yeah we are just dating"

WINNER.....


Men and women do not see "Just dating" as the same thing. If a man says we are just dating, he is leaving the door open for others ................................................................

I was referring to the term I used. And as I had already said, I'm using "dating" as "seeing someone." I was also speaking in general about past experiences with boyfriends/dating/seeing someone.

But thank you for being honest that you don't care about who you're dating. Good for women to know! Sometimes it takes a while for that to show. With you, it was pretty quick.

See a man if he really like's you he will say this is my girlfriend, this is my lady, this is my woman. He wont refer to you as a woman he is dating.

I'm glad you're so insightful that you can speak for all men! That's awesome.

And it's great that you've made so many assumptions after telling me not to assume. I had purposefully not given you much information about the people I dated, or the situations. I wanted to see what you'd say.. and you ran with it.

But, thanks for the conversation. It did amuse me and let me in on how you really feel about women.

You really should back up what you say. No where have i said anything of that nature. I have stated i don't date around i have stated i see one on one.

You on the other hand told us how you "use sex to get to know guys you are dating". Your own words show you for who you are.

My words. My words have been honest. My words told you how men perceive dating and someone they are serious about. Two different beasts.

You you tried to twist words that were not there. you tried to make me into something i am not. Funny part i called you out earlier for trying to stir the pot. Your own words now prove you to be what you are.

Did you miss where I said more than once that I prefer to date one person at a time? That means I date one person at a time. Same as what you're talking about when you said you see one person at a time. Just different wording.

I have been honest about what I've said. If you choose to think I have not, that's not my issue. I can't force you to believe me. And I'm not trying to force you to agree with me. As said earlier, we all have different preferences when it comes to sex. I don't judge others based on when they have sex. Apparently you do.

You say that my own words now prove I am what I am. What does it prove I am?

Hurry go edit some more of your posts

Not going to answer my question? What does what I've said prove that I am? Let's hear you be honest about it.

You are drama plain and very simple.