There are two sides to this coin.

First off.....arrogance to one person is self-confidence to another.

Secondly...advertising works. I don't see anything wrong with someone emphasizing thier selling points.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Is it a turn on, or a turn off, for someone to flaunt, or brag on their looks?


depends on the context

just joking around type bragging can be pretty funny sometimes

my experience is that most people are not confidence in their appearance

to me
the line of distinction would be the adverts in good taste, subtle

and of course subtle good taste is also subjective

one person's trash is another's treasure I've heard

eh? w/e

Self promotion is never a turn on.

Unless you are masturbating.

I love confident men. However, I am not into those who brag. That goes beyond confidence into arrogance. You can be confident of yourself and proud of your looks without telling everyone how hot or beautiful you are all the time. You can flaunt it without doing that.

Bragging and self promotion crosses the line of confidence
into arrogance. A truly confident person does not need to
sell anything about them self. It's a turn off.

If ya wanna dazzle me,
don't talk about it,
just dazzle me!

Exactly!!

I am , admittedly, weary of anyone who has to point out to others that they are 'attractive'.....


sharing personality traits or personal experiences is one thing, but I think rating attractiveness should be left to the person who is looking at us and not up to ourself,,,(at least in a dating forum/profile situation)

Then please tell me why do men go for women with cute faces, and hot bodies rather than women who have nice personalities. Who's more superficial men or women when it comes to looks? Should this have been a new thread?

The "look at me, I'm so pretty" girls is a turn off for me, but at the same time, I don't mind it. Some people do go for that sort of thing and that's up to them. Different strokes for different folks.

well I guess just don't complain when shallowchoices bite you

I think men tend to be far more shallow partly because they tend to be more visual creatures

but also partly because our society believes we owe it to them to look good so they expect it

Meaning?

Not all of us do. I've dated women of all shapes and sizes. One GF i had was 225 lbs when we started dating and within two years hit 340. I had no issue with her weight until she started complaining about how she looked and about how she'd 'crush' me by accident. She'd ask for advice and hate my answers. When she dumped me, she actually had the nerve to tell everyone we knew that i hated her gaining weight. needless to say, no one believed her.

If a woman brags to me about her looks, I don't give it any weight. It does not turn me off, it does not turn me off. I simply don't believe it site unseen.

If a woman who has no picture says "I am slim", I believe it, and to me slim is equivalent to attractive, in physical terms.

I met once a woman who called herself slim, or Lil, who turned out to be 230 lbs on the frist encounter. But she was an exception.

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What bugs me is when her friends promote a not very attractive woman. I asked this really beautiful woman to dance at a public dance (we had known each other, all three of us, for a short time), and the beauty said, "why don't you ask Dorothy." Dorothy was not at all attractive. She had no personality either. I ask the beauty, why she likes Dotty; she said Dotty has a superb sense of humour. Dorothy could not say sentences longer than tree words in count, and she laughed stupidly at anything, or smiled idiotically. She was at least 78 years old, which is NOT why I am saying she was unattractive. She was a smoker, and had dark hair.

Some time later I found out why the beauty kept being friends with her. Dotty's family was the fifth richest in the city, and she, herself, belonged to all the service clubs that let in only multimillionnaires and multimillionnairesses. Dotty was scary.

Then at another time a girfriend and I were breaking up, and she wanted to get rid of me very quickly, but in an amicalbe way, and she introduced me to one of her friends from her acting group. Theatrical acting, not a hysterical support group.

My ex-ish girlfriend at the time said that the other girl was gorgeous. Really beautiful. Total knock-out.

The xsh even organized a party to make the introduction. The other girl was ... erm... not very attractive. Had an okay figure, enormous breasts, but her face was reminiscent of a balloon with eyes and nose and lips painted on it. She was a nice woman, and from what I saw, a normal person. She was just not what the literature refers to as "beautiful".

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In conlcusion, women who call themselves beautiful don't turn me off. Nor on. I just don't believe them on first hearing without visual evidence.

If these women are indeed beautiful, I rejoyce. If these women are not beautiful, I don't judge them. I sort of feel pity for them. Once they may have been beautiful, and they fixated on that. I dunno. My heart goes out to them, for they are holding on to a pleasant part of their past, to keep themselves from going insane, and that proces alone has already made them insane.

I see sad poetry in there more than anything else.

Okay i get what people are saying about flaunting it and not talking about it. But one of the things about having a picture up yeah people can tell what I look like but have no clue on dimensions. Or when stating reply where talking about myself gives insight into a reply.

Like I don't know if my woman would have perved my profile and started a dialog and flirting if I hadn't mentioned I was 6'3" and weighed what I weighed.

Unless someone has an eye for detail getting someones actual proportions isn't very easy. Camera angles can also through off perspective.

The last thing about why talking about yourself is important is for people to learn about who you are. We all say were not mind readers so how do we expect to learn about others if they dont talk about themselves. Jmo

That is true...if you promote yourself, for instance i work self employed and if i dont brag about my products constantly, i lose business...as far as looks...people are always flaunting what they got, whether with words or just in photo...so being confident is similar to being flaunting, being flirtatious is flaunting what you have...it's all relative. I would rather have a mate who is confident and proud than bashful and sheepish.

PS as long as they dont think they are better than me...

well pretty simple really, a choice made based on appearances moreso than substance may or may not turn out well for you

ideally we want both, but I think where guys get into issues is choosing a woman based on a cute laugh, breast size, or hair color and then get upset when her personality isn't compatible to theirs, or she cheats, or doesn't want to have sex with him or whatever----ummmmmmmmmmmm maybe he should have paid a bit more attention to personality in the beginning?????

sure this happens to women too, but I think it happens more with guys...maybe that's because I was always the one passed over for someone cuter or skinnier but was always told how great I am to talk to don't wanna hear it

I wanna hear that he thinks I have a hot bod and he wantsta hold it against me

hey stud

where'd ya get that head of hair?