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Topic: Police are minuets away when seconds count.
msharmony's photo
Sun 07/24/11 01:34 PM


Personally, I don't carry a gun. But I may decide to change that one day. If I do, I would never use deadly force unless I was definitely in dire fear of my life.


That is one of the reasons that in a mass shooting the legal gun owners are no good. They are too shook up, they fear brandishing it, they are not sure if they can legally shoot the shooter and not be charged, etc..

That is why I call the false advertising when I see it.

No gun toter has saved the day in a mass shooting like that.

It should not be used as an example of what "good" guns are.



I agree, if it happens, its rare enough that its not an example of anything.

ITs like taking the times that children have helped deliver a child and saying it justifies giving children medical licenses....


Or taking how many times children have driven a vehicle safely and saying it justifies giving children drivers license,,,,

etc,,,

Dragoness's photo
Sun 07/24/11 01:36 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Sun 07/24/11 01:39 PM

I hope I never live where it is so bad that

'shoot first, ask questions later'

is the required norm,,,,,


I have had two men broken into my home while they thought I was sleeping

I have had one assault in a park

another at someones home


,,,no guns in any of those situations and everyone is still alive

I prefer that to any other outcome(even if it means the perp lives too)


"Make my day" law was created here so that when people force their way into your home in any scenerio it is legal to protect yourself and in this situation I believe a good sawed off shotgun would be appropriate. They would probably live through it depending on the shot you used but they wouldn't be able to hurt you.

Even with this law people are killed in home invasions here which shows even the laws don't prevent this from happening.

I have a pretty secure place so I don't have to worry about break ins and home invasions here but if I owned my own home I would probably have a shot gun sitting next to me by the chair loaded.

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Sun 07/24/11 01:37 PM


Personally, I don't carry a gun. But I may decide to change that one day. If I do, I would never use deadly force unless I was definitely in dire fear of my life.


That is one of the reasons that in a mass shooting the legal gun owners are no good. They are too shook up, they fear brandishing it, they are not sure if they can legally shoot the shooter and not be charged, etc..

That is why I call the false advertising when I see it.

No gun toter has saved the day in a mass shooting like that.

It should not be used as an example of what "good" guns are.


Again it is the law of averages. There are not that many mass shootings. There are not that many citizens with guns. There are not many opportunistic situations. But never say never. Everything and anything is possible.

Besides, if the shooter was foiled, there would not be any mass shooting.... so you would have never heard about it. You don't know everything that has ever happened in the world Dragoness. You are not all knowing. Your claim is flawed.

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Sun 07/24/11 01:39 PM


"Make my day" law was created here so that when people force their way into your home in any scenerio it is legal to protect yourself and in this situation I believe a good sawed off shotgun would be appropriate. They would probably live through depending on the shot you used but they would be able to hurt you.




Unless the invaders happen to be an assassination seal team.laugh

Then I doubt if your shotgun or anything else is going to be much help.

Dragoness's photo
Sun 07/24/11 01:43 PM



Personally, I don't carry a gun. But I may decide to change that one day. If I do, I would never use deadly force unless I was definitely in dire fear of my life.


That is one of the reasons that in a mass shooting the legal gun owners are no good. They are too shook up, they fear brandishing it, they are not sure if they can legally shoot the shooter and not be charged, etc..

That is why I call the false advertising when I see it.

No gun toter has saved the day in a mass shooting like that.

It should not be used as an example of what "good" guns are.


Again it is the law of averages. There are not that many mass shootings. There are not that many citizens with guns. There are not many opportunistic situations. But never say never. Everything and anything is possible.

Besides, if the shooter was foiled, there would not be any mass shooting.... so you would have never heard about it. You don't know everything that has ever happened in the world Dragoness. You are not all knowing. Your claim is flawed.


No the advertising that guns are a good deal for this is flawed...lol

It has never happened.

It would be world news if some gun toter took out a mass shooter and they would know that they were going to be mass shooting just from their weapon/weapons of choice and the amount of people in the vicinity.

Dragoness's photo
Sun 07/24/11 01:45 PM



"Make my day" law was created here so that when people force their way into your home in any scenerio it is legal to protect yourself and in this situation I believe a good sawed off shotgun would be appropriate. They would probably live through depending on the shot you used but they would be able to hurt you.




Unless the invaders happen to be an assassination seal team.laugh

Then I doubt if your shotgun or anything else is going to be much help.


Well if I am that wanted I would know better myself anyway

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Sun 07/24/11 01:50 PM




Personally, I don't carry a gun. But I may decide to change that one day. If I do, I would never use deadly force unless I was definitely in dire fear of my life.


That is one of the reasons that in a mass shooting the legal gun owners are no good. They are too shook up, they fear brandishing it, they are not sure if they can legally shoot the shooter and not be charged, etc..

That is why I call the false advertising when I see it.

No gun toter has saved the day in a mass shooting like that.

It should not be used as an example of what "good" guns are.


Again it is the law of averages. There are not that many mass shootings. There are not that many citizens with guns. There are not many opportunistic situations. But never say never. Everything and anything is possible.

Besides, if the shooter was foiled, there would not be any mass shooting.... so you would have never heard about it. You don't know everything that has ever happened in the world Dragoness. You are not all knowing. Your claim is flawed.


No the advertising that guns are a good deal for this is flawed...lol

It has never happened.

It would be world news if some gun toter took out a mass shooter and they would know that they were going to be mass shooting just from their weapon/weapons of choice and the amount of people in the vicinity.


There would be no way to tell. You can't predict if a person is going to be a mass shooter.

You can only speculate.....


Dragoness's photo
Sun 07/24/11 01:55 PM





Personally, I don't carry a gun. But I may decide to change that one day. If I do, I would never use deadly force unless I was definitely in dire fear of my life.


That is one of the reasons that in a mass shooting the legal gun owners are no good. They are too shook up, they fear brandishing it, they are not sure if they can legally shoot the shooter and not be charged, etc..

That is why I call the false advertising when I see it.

No gun toter has saved the day in a mass shooting like that.

It should not be used as an example of what "good" guns are.


Again it is the law of averages. There are not that many mass shootings. There are not that many citizens with guns. There are not many opportunistic situations. But never say never. Everything and anything is possible.

Besides, if the shooter was foiled, there would not be any mass shooting.... so you would have never heard about it. You don't know everything that has ever happened in the world Dragoness. You are not all knowing. Your claim is flawed.


No the advertising that guns are a good deal for this is flawed...lol

It has never happened.

It would be world news if some gun toter took out a mass shooter and they would know that they were going to be mass shooting just from their weapon/weapons of choice and the amount of people in the vicinity.


There would be no way to tell. You can't predict if a person is going to be a mass shooter.

You can only speculate.....




There is no need to speculate when you see they have an armory and an auto weapon

You keep wishin though...lol

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Sun 07/24/11 01:56 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 07/24/11 02:02 PM
I may have stopped a mass murderer myself, but not with a gun.

He was an insane relative of mine and he had two loaded guns in his possession and he was drunk and threatening to kill several people.

I confiscated his guns and took them to the police department and put them under lock and key.

I'm a heroin. :banana: :banana:

It never made the news cause nothing ever happened.:wink:

Dragoness's photo
Sun 07/24/11 02:04 PM

I may have stopped a mass murderer myself, but not with a gun.

He was an insane relative of mine and he had two loaded guns in his possession and he was drunk and threatening to kill several people.

I confiscated his guns and took them to the police department and put them under lock and key.

I'm a heroin. :banana: :banana:

It never made the news cause nothing ever happened.:wink:


Good beans, shows it can be done without a gun, just a little observation and action.

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Sun 07/24/11 02:57 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 07/24/11 02:58 PM


I may have stopped a mass murderer myself, but not with a gun.

He was an insane relative of mine and he had two loaded guns in his possession and he was drunk and threatening to kill several people.

I confiscated his guns and took them to the police department and put them under lock and key.

I'm a heroin. :banana: :banana:

It never made the news cause nothing ever happened.:wink:


Good beans, shows it can be done without a gun, just a little observation and action.


It also shows that when an event is prevented... you probably won't hear about it. If I had simply shot him, that would have been all your heard. "Girl shoots psycho nut with handgun."


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Sun 07/24/11 04:15 PM
I just love how you dragoness refer to anyone who owns a gun as a "Gun toter." So who are the police then? Who are they when they go rogue? Some cops ARE criminals behind a badge. Who protects us from them? Other police officers? The idea is that we the people regulate crime ourselves rather than evolve into some Nazi Police state like we are going!

Oh but is responsible adults are not responsible in your eyes are we. We are all just children you can look down your nose at. I know a guy who got maced and beat the woman who maced him pretty bad. Then he got maced and tazered by police, beat the ever loving crap out of three of them before he was finally overwhelmed by sheer press of numbers. He made the news. He is doing five years for beating the crap out of three police officers, two of which were hospitalized. And the funny thing to me is the woman who maced him assaulted him first and didn't serve any time for that. It was what it all escalated into and the man in question does have gang affiliations but he also doesn't drink or smoke. So if you think mace will save you GUESS AGAIN! Like a gun it is not 100% and actually is far less than that because a lot of users have no clue their own weapon can act against themselves. Also what stops charging bears? Mace or guns? Well, so far several people got mauled by bears trying to protect themselves with mace. Bet they wished they had guns!

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Sun 07/24/11 05:22 PM
That's right. The real crazies won't be stopped by mace. It'll just piss them off.


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