Topic: Police are minuets away when seconds count.
no photo
Sat 07/23/11 09:48 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 07/23/11 09:50 PM
Dragoness, never say never.

People who are trained to use a gun and know how to shoot... and their aren't very many average citizens who are.... would make a difference.

The problem is, people don't have the training. If more people did, I bet you will see them shooting back.

Anyway, just because you don't know of any incidents like you claim "never" happen.... what's your point anyway?

That people should not carry guns? What is your point? That people are afraid to use them?

Never say never. The times are coming.


mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/23/11 09:51 PM


I lived in Alabama for over a year. It cost about $10.00 for a gun permit. Everyone and their grandmother has a concealed weapon. My mother-in-law carried one in her purse. Some guy tried to car jack her and rob her while she was sitting in her car at a light. She reached into her purse and aimed her gun at him. He only had a knife. Too bad. He ran away.

Crime was very low there. (Dothan) I only heard of one robbery while I was there, and the lady being robbed shot the robber in a supermarket parking lot.





None of which changes the fact that no gun toter ever saves the day at mass shootings EVER!


so how would you know if one did? if the shooter was stopped before the mass killing, would we be in a position to know? your comments are baseless, because it is something that won't make the headlines like a mass killing would...

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/23/11 09:54 PM

Dragoness, never say never.

People who are trained to use a gun and know how to shoot... and their aren't very many average citizens who are.... would make a difference.

The problem is, people don't have the training. If more people did, I bet you will see them shooting back.

Anyway, just because you don't know of any incidents like you claim "never" happen.... what's your point anyway?

That people should not carry guns? What is your point? That people are afraid to use them?

Never say never. The times are coming.




I am saying don't use a false talking point.

gun toters never save lives at mass shoot ups, NEVER and they are there so it is not a good talking point to advocate for guns.

Stick with personal protection and leave out the bullshyte of they being some kind of hero, it JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.

Gun toting doesn't make heros.


Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/23/11 09:56 PM



I lived in Alabama for over a year. It cost about $10.00 for a gun permit. Everyone and their grandmother has a concealed weapon. My mother-in-law carried one in her purse. Some guy tried to car jack her and rob her while she was sitting in her car at a light. She reached into her purse and aimed her gun at him. He only had a knife. Too bad. He ran away.

Crime was very low there. (Dothan) I only heard of one robbery while I was there, and the lady being robbed shot the robber in a supermarket parking lot.





None of which changes the fact that no gun toter ever saves the day at mass shootings EVER!


so how would you know if one did? if the shooter was stopped before the mass killing, would we be in a position to know? your comments are baseless, because it is something that won't make the headlines like a mass killing would...


The OP is a mass killing and that is all we are suppose to be referring to if we are following the OP.

No gun toter has ever EVER saved the day at a mass shooting.

Never happened even when they are there.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:03 PM



I lived in Alabama for over a year. It cost about $10.00 for a gun permit. Everyone and their grandmother has a concealed weapon. My mother-in-law carried one in her purse. Some guy tried to car jack her and rob her while she was sitting in her car at a light. She reached into her purse and aimed her gun at him. He only had a knife. Too bad. He ran away.

Crime was very low there. (Dothan) I only heard of one robbery while I was there, and the lady being robbed shot the robber in a supermarket parking lot.





None of which changes the fact that no gun toter ever saves the day at mass shootings EVER!


so how would you know if one did? if the shooter was stopped before the mass killing, would we be in a position to know? your comments are baseless, because it is something that won't make the headlines like a mass killing would...


The Texas State University shootout had eh local police deputizing ANYONE who showed up with a rifle and instructed them to shoot at anyone in the clock tower of the university. The locals were being used for suppressing fire while the police managed to get close enough to the building Finally to end the shooting spree. Again the police deputized anyone who had a rifle to lay down suppressing fire on Charles Whitman. So don't blow smoke up my backside!

Thank you!

no photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:04 PM
The point is Dragoness, you would not know it if they did. You are not a prophet. You say "never" as if you are. Its just not something you can really know.


AndyBgood's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:15 PM
BTW Dragoness, hope foot tastes good,

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-270374.html

Oh but did say say left or right? Let us make this a matched set!

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41571

How about a plate of crow?

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0210e.asp

MMMMMMMMMMMM! Tasty!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-158377.html

Oh but I didn't forget desert! HUMBLE PIE ANYONE???

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:16 PM

The point is Dragoness, you would not know it if they did. You are not a prophet. You say "never" as if you are. Its just not something you can really know.




I am tickled we don't see eye to eye on everything but sometimes we actually do!

:banana:

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:20 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Sat 07/23/11 10:21 PM

BTW Dragoness, hope foot tastes good,

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-270374.html

Oh but did say say left or right? Let us make this a matched set!

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41571

How about a plate of crow?

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0210e.asp

MMMMMMMMMMMM! Tasty!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-158377.html

Oh but I didn't forget desert! HUMBLE PIE ANYONE???


None of that is mass shootings saved by a gun toter so you still aren't proving anything here...

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:23 PM

The point is Dragoness, you would not know it if they did. You are not a prophet. You say "never" as if you are. Its just not something you can really know.




The point is Jeannie that in a mass shooting that we are discussing everyone would know.

If a gun toter took out or even pulled their weapon at a mass shooting it would be world news.

So you are not proving anything here either.


AndyBgood's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:24 PM


BTW Dragoness, hope foot tastes good,

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-270374.html

Oh but did say say left or right? Let us make this a matched set!

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41571

How about a plate of crow?

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0210e.asp

MMMMMMMMMMMM! Tasty!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-158377.html

Oh but I didn't forget desert! HUMBLE PIE ANYONE???


Are you selectively blind or you just can't read English? No I get it, YOU cannot admit when you are wrong. You just won't. Eghad!

None of that is mass shootings saved by a gun toter so you still aren't proving anything here...

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:25 PM




I lived in Alabama for over a year. It cost about $10.00 for a gun permit. Everyone and their grandmother has a concealed weapon. My mother-in-law carried one in her purse. Some guy tried to car jack her and rob her while she was sitting in her car at a light. She reached into her purse and aimed her gun at him. He only had a knife. Too bad. He ran away.

Crime was very low there. (Dothan) I only heard of one robbery while I was there, and the lady being robbed shot the robber in a supermarket parking lot.





None of which changes the fact that no gun toter ever saves the day at mass shootings EVER!


so how would you know if one did? if the shooter was stopped before the mass killing, would we be in a position to know? your comments are baseless, because it is something that won't make the headlines like a mass killing would...


The Texas State University shootout had eh local police deputizing ANYONE who showed up with a rifle and instructed them to shoot at anyone in the clock tower of the university. The locals were being used for suppressing fire while the police managed to get close enough to the building Finally to end the shooting spree. Again the police deputized anyone who had a rifle to lay down suppressing fire on Charles Whitman. So don't blow smoke up my backside!

Thank you!


That still didn't prove the point.

So now what?

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:27 PM



BTW Dragoness, hope foot tastes good,

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-270374.html

Oh but did say say left or right? Let us make this a matched set!

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41571

How about a plate of crow?

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0210e.asp

MMMMMMMMMMMM! Tasty!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-158377.html

Oh but I didn't forget desert! HUMBLE PIE ANYONE???


Are you selectively blind or you just can't read English? No I get it, YOU cannot admit when you are wrong. You just won't. Eghad!

None of that is mass shootings saved by a gun toter so you still aren't proving anything here...



They are not mass shootings that were stopped and people saved by a gun toter who happened to be there and saved the day...

no photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:28 PM


The point is Dragoness, you would not know it if they did. You are not a prophet. You say "never" as if you are. Its just not something you can really know.




I am tickled we don't see eye to eye on everything but sometimes we actually do!

:banana:


Yeh sometimes we do. bigsmile

no photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:30 PM
They are not mass shootings that were stopped and people saved by a gun toter who happened to be there and saved the day...


rofl rofl rofl

If a "mass shooting" was stopped.... it wouldn't be a mass shooting.

laugh laugh

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:31 PM
There are no cases where a gun toter saved the day in a mass shooting like the OP.

So bullshyte is still bullshyte.

No talking point for gun toting in a false claim.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:33 PM

They are not mass shootings that were stopped and people saved by a gun toter who happened to be there and saved the day...


rofl rofl rofl

If a "mass shooting" was stopped.... it wouldn't be a mass shooting.

laugh laugh


lol, why bother? we are all wrong, republicans are all wrong, everybody is wrong except the lefties... yawn ... it gets old sometimes..

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:33 PM
It is a false claim that gun toters save people's lives in mass shootings like the OP.

Bullshyte.

no photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:34 PM

There are no cases where a gun toter saved the day in a mass shooting like the OP.

So bullshyte is still bullshyte.

No talking point for gun toting in a false claim.


If their were, you wouldn't even have heard about it because there would have been NO MASS SHOOTING.

You are so funny.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 07/23/11 10:34 PM




BTW Dragoness, hope foot tastes good,

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-270374.html

Oh but did say say left or right? Let us make this a matched set!

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41571

How about a plate of crow?

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0210e.asp

MMMMMMMMMMMM! Tasty!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-158377.html

Oh but I didn't forget desert! HUMBLE PIE ANYONE???


Are you selectively blind or you just can't read English? No I get it, YOU cannot admit when you are wrong. You just won't. Eghad!

None of that is mass shootings saved by a gun toter so you still aren't proving anything here...



They are not mass shootings that were stopped and people saved by a gun toter who happened to be there and saved the day...




YOU CLEARLY are ignoring the cases where shootings were stopped by a singular NON POLICE OFFICER WITH A GUN!

A MASS SHOOTING IS THREE OR MORE! AND WHEN A KILLER IS IN PROCESS OF KILLING PEOPLE, HAS KILLED ONE OR TWO, AND IS STOPPED BY AN ARMED CITIZEN THAT SO MEETS YOUR CRITERIA IN SPADES BUT HERE YOU ARE SAYING NONE OF THESE EXAMPLES MEETS YOUR CRITERIA THAT NONE OF THESE EXAMPLES COUNT!


tongue2 WEAK SAUCE!tongue2

You are SO WRONG!

WRONG WRONG WRONG!


Did I overwhelm you with TMI? I am itching to see how may others read what I have posted, Cross correlate the incidence and come back saying the same thing I am, YOU ARE WRONG!

Sorry but this world is not the dreams of Paulianna. It is more Dante's Inferno.