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Peter_Pan wrote:
See, you "think" it was made up and I "know" it was. Like you "knew" that the Bible doesn't say that the flood was worldwide? 
I think your position as biblical authoritarian is floating in limbo somewhere. As one who can read and use a concordance, what you think of me means absolutely nothing. If you cannot refute what I claim, respond with more fluff and non-substance. You were refuted already. It's a done deal.
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Peter_Pan wrote:
See, you "think" it was made up and I "know" it was. Like you "knew" that the Bible doesn't say that the flood was worldwide?
I think your position as biblical authoritarian is floating in limbo somewhere. As one who can read and use a concordance, what you think of me means absolutely nothing. If you cannot refute what I claim, respond with more fluff and non-substance. You were refuted already. It's a done deal.
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So far, no one - not a single solitary soul answered the question "Are all the stories set out and told in the Bible true or are they fiction or a mixture of both?" With the answer that they thought they were really 100% true. And...I'm not going to hold my breath. 
Don't worry, "they" will keep debating as if "we" thought that way... Ok peter, what's your view on death, tell me. No Kleisto... You have shown time and time again that you don't want to search for anything on your own. If you want my personal opinions, you're going to have to tell me yours about hell. Be prepared to back up your reasoning. I don't believe it exists, I think it was made up, and I don't believe anyone is damned at all, or even dies. Our souls live forever. See, you "think" it was made up and I "know" it was. I know because I read, something you refuse to do yet you bring up "fire and brimstone" and "hell" numerous times. Ok now we're just nitpicking. Bibilical or not it was made up, fine we can agree on that. What about your own beliefs now? If hell doesn't exist, what do YOU think happens when we die? Biblical or not? When you can answer that confidently I'll tell you my beliefs. What I mean whether the idea comes from the Bible or not, either way the whole thing was made up and is a lie. The source doesn't matter so much to me as the lie does. |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Sun 07/10/11 09:43 PM
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Peter_Pan wrote:
See, you "think" it was made up and I "know" it was. Like you "knew" that the Bible doesn't say that the flood was worldwide?
I think your position as biblical authoritarian is floating in limbo somewhere. As one who can read and use a concordance, what you think of me means absolutely nothing. If you cannot refute what I claim, respond with more fluff and non-substance. You were refuted already. It's a done deal.
No you were wrong, if God hated all of his creation, why would he not flood everything if he was gonna? That's to say nothing of the quotes that backup such an idea. |
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Peter_Pan wrote:
See, you "think" it was made up and I "know" it was. Like you "knew" that the Bible doesn't say that the flood was worldwide?
I think your position as biblical authoritarian is floating in limbo somewhere. As one who can read and use a concordance, what you think of me means absolutely nothing. If you cannot refute what I claim, respond with more fluff and non-substance. You were refuted already. It's a done deal.
No you were wrong, if God hated all of his creation, why would he not flood everything if he was gonna? That's to say nothing of the quotes that backup such an idea. There you go again, claiming to know what God would do. Let's deal with the facts. Are you claiming a world-wide flood? |
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Peter_Pan wrote:
See, you "think" it was made up and I "know" it was. Like you "knew" that the Bible doesn't say that the flood was worldwide?
I think your position as biblical authoritarian is floating in limbo somewhere. As one who can read and use a concordance, what you think of me means absolutely nothing. If you cannot refute what I claim, respond with more fluff and non-substance. You were refuted already. It's a done deal.
No you were wrong, if God hated all of his creation, why would he not flood everything if he was gonna? That's to say nothing of the quotes that backup such an idea. i think they have already shown it was the black sea that was described in the bible, the great flood...but there is something about the arc that supposedly landed on mount arafat, nowhere close to the black sea... at least i have seen enough evidence that it was... |
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So far, no one - not a single solitary soul answered the question "Are all the stories set out and told in the Bible true or are they fiction or a mixture of both?" With the answer that they thought they were really 100% true. And...I'm not going to hold my breath.
Don't worry, "they" will keep debating as if "we" thought that way... Ok peter, what's your view on death, tell me. No Kleisto... You have shown time and time again that you don't want to search for anything on your own. If you want my personal opinions, you're going to have to tell me yours about hell. Be prepared to back up your reasoning. I don't believe it exists, I think it was made up, and I don't believe anyone is damned at all, or even dies. Our souls live forever. See, you "think" it was made up and I "know" it was. I know because I read, something you refuse to do yet you bring up "fire and brimstone" and "hell" numerous times. Ok now we're just nitpicking. Bibilical or not it was made up, fine we can agree on that. What about your own beliefs now? If hell doesn't exist, what do YOU think happens when we die? Biblical or not? When you can answer that confidently I'll tell you my beliefs. What I mean whether the idea comes from the Bible or not, either way the whole thing was made up and is a lie. The source doesn't matter so much to me as the lie does. Yes, the source matters. You and others make claims of what is in the Bible. If it's not in the Bible, then you are guilty of perpetuating the lies... |
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This is a poll. Do you believe the Bible is historically accurate? Does your church teach that the Bible is true and historically accurate? Are all the stories set out and told in the Bible true or are they fiction or a mixture of both? Yes the churches in my life taught that the bible was historically accurate. And no it is not historically accurate or otherwise factual,. |
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This is a poll. Do you believe the Bible is historically accurate? Does your church teach that the Bible is true and historically accurate? Are all the stories set out and told in the Bible true or are they fiction or a mixture of both? Yes the churches in my life taught that the bible was historically accurate. And no it is not historically accurate or otherwise factual,. i disagree, i think the bible is a mixture of truth and non truths, made up things... mostly mundane things that happened where embellished to make a better story... |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Sun 07/10/11 10:33 PM
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Peter_Pan wrote:
See, you "think" it was made up and I "know" it was. Like you "knew" that the Bible doesn't say that the flood was worldwide?
I think your position as biblical authoritarian is floating in limbo somewhere. As one who can read and use a concordance, what you think of me means absolutely nothing. If you cannot refute what I claim, respond with more fluff and non-substance. You were refuted already. It's a done deal.
No you were wrong, if God hated all of his creation, why would he not flood everything if he was gonna? That's to say nothing of the quotes that backup such an idea. There you go again, claiming to know what God would do. Let's deal with the facts. Are you claiming a world-wide flood? Firstly, I'm going simply by what the Bible says God thought of man at this time, so in that sense right there the worldwide flood would make sense from that perspective. Secondly, as a matter of fact Biblically speaking yes I am! The Bible indicates pretty clearly that the entire world was flooded. I don't care if it used the actual word or not, it was implied. |
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Peter_Pan wrote:
See, you "think" it was made up and I "know" it was. Like you "knew" that the Bible doesn't say that the flood was worldwide?
I think your position as biblical authoritarian is floating in limbo somewhere. As one who can read and use a concordance, what you think of me means absolutely nothing. If you cannot refute what I claim, respond with more fluff and non-substance. You were refuted already. It's a done deal.
No you were wrong, if God hated all of his creation, why would he not flood everything if he was gonna? That's to say nothing of the quotes that backup such an idea. There you go again, claiming to know what God would do. Let's deal with the facts. Are you claiming a world-wide flood? Firstly, I'm going simply by what the Bible says God thought of man at this time, so in that sense right there the worldwide flood would make sense from that perspective. Secondly, as a matter of fact Biblically speaking yes I am! The Bible indicates pretty clearly that the entire world was flooded. I don't care if it used the actual word or not, it was implied. 1. I'm not even gonna comment on what I think God thought or did. You'll just jump down my throat. I just wanna point that out... 2. You can't debate from the litteral perspective and then claim something was "implied". Learn the root words that have been translated to "earth"... |
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Honestly, I'm really sick of debating people like you, it just goes nowhere fast. At this point, think what you want I don't care much anymore.
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Honestly, I'm really sick of debating people like you, it just goes nowhere fast. At this point, think what you want I don't care much anymore. Don't worry, I didn't consider this a debate... So, what's nowhere like? |
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Anybody (Christian or otherwise) claim that all Bible stories
are 100% true yet?
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Anybody (Christian or otherwise) claim that all Bible stories are 100% true yet?
Nobody outright claimed it, but there sure is a hell a lot of "implying" going on.... |
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highly implausible that genesis is historically accurate. me thinks the universe has been around a might longer than six thousand years.
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did genesis mention six thousand years?...
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This is a poll. Do you believe the Bible is historically accurate? Yes Does your church teach that the Bible is true and historically accurate?I don't attend church Are all the stories set out and told in the Bible true or are they fiction or a mixture of both? That's a very complicated question. I think that the Bible is a largely true and accurate accounting of what was done, what was thought and what was said, but some some of what was said was metaphor, hyperbole or outright lies |
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Anybody (Christian or otherwise) claim that all Bible stories are 100% true yet?
Once they confess that it's not 100% true, that's good enough for me. If it's not 100% true then they have no ground to stand on when they try to claim that God wants this or God expects that. Says who? The Bible?
So what? They just confessed that the book is undependable and cannot be trusted to be 100% true. |
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Anybody (Christian or otherwise) claim that all Bible stories are 100% true yet?
Once they confess that it's not 100% true, that's good enough for me. If it's not 100% true then they have no ground to stand on when they try to claim that God wants this or God expects that. Says who? The Bible?
So what? They just confessed that the book is undependable and cannot be trusted to be 100% true. I'm glad it's good enough for you. Apparently very few people actually advocate taking it literally. But as far as what God wants or demands you will have to accept that even though the Bible is not accurate historically it also contains a lot of discussion of ethical and moral behavior and this is what people point to when they say that God's commandments such as the ten commandments are beautiful and divinely inspired and worth following ethically and morally. Whether or not the Bible is correct historically is immaterial.
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