What are the qualites you really desire form a guy before you can get married to him or date him.Is it money or what?

loving God

ability to communicate, especially to 'listen'

ability to be an asset emotionally, financially, intellectually

reliability, honesty, integrity

..thats to marry

to date,, I just require good hygiene, and a personal swag,, which might be supreme charm or excellent manners

For me i admire a lady who is God fearing,smart and joke alot like me,she most not be shy to tell me what she feels for me,respectful,romantic and care.What about you

It's on my profile.

1) the desire to not get married
2) the desire
and some more stuff, but we'll leave it at that.

good luck to you!

please explain the "stuff" slurp slurp

slurp slurp covers it :)~

A man who's sensitive, warm, funny, a leader, good communicator, honest, a protector, family man, patience, slow to angry, playful, hard worker, loves to kiss, clean hands and nails, and loves to cook, cause I freakin hate to.

Women sure do want a lot in a man but lets turn the tables real quick. Women what do you feel you contribute to a man? We are jerks for sex holding so much importance but if it is the man who; makes the money, protects the family, leads the conversation, plans the dates, make repairs around the house, ect. So what is really left for the woman to provide?

I'd say woman should feel lucky that sex weighs so heavily on the minds of men or else we would all be gay. As unnatural as it sounds really think about it guys. If you take sex and attraction out of the equation all the stuff that would get done if you partnered up with a man.

Women should be happy that men think of them the way they do and love sex so much.

Wow, what century are you from? Most families can't get by without both husband and wife working, especially if they have kids. So there goes the statement of the man making the money. And since, as a woman, I work just as hard as a man does, I think the care of the home and the kids should be a partnership.

Most women these days are intelligent enough to talk about politics, sports, architecture and a host of other things. Who waits for a man to initiate a conversation anymore? A good many of us have also learned how to shoot firearms, self-defense moves or, in a pinch, can wield a golf club or baseball bat pretty well. Women also are good at planning and making repairs. Some better than their husbands/boyfriends. And a few of us "lesser" non-contributing women even know how to maintain our cars. Sounds like things are a bit more even these days.

As far as sex goes, we have no problem with men thinking about sex. It becomes a problem when he sits on his azz after she's worked hard all day and then is expected to come home to cook dinner and take care of the kids. And then expects her to be all sexy and receptive when she's done with her second job of the day and it's "time to play". Foreplay begins when she walks in the door and you offer to give her a massage too instead of just wanting one for yourself. Or cooking together, helping with (or doing) the dishes, the kids, etc.

His thinking about sex all the time becomes a problem when she doesn't (or can't) give him what he wants and he either goes to someone else to get it or stays up late at night watching porn. If you think I'm kidding, Google the statistics on the rise of pornography addiction in this country.



Women could certainly say the same thing. And we have the better quality and more realistic sex toys.



Maybe it's just the way you're saying all of this that makes me think you think we should be grateful that men would even want us helpless, useless, mindless, defenseless, destitute creatures so much. But since on your profile you state that you're a writer, I'm thinking you mean exactly what you're saying.

We are not all gold-diggers, teases or welfare queens. Working women have become the backbone of this country. By the way, we love sex too. And any man who can respect us and be considerate of our place in society will get more sex, guaranteed.

Everything you said does not apply to the average woman.

When it comes to sex both men and woman want the real thing besides my hand trumps any of your toys... unless the fact that it was constructed by a child with bloody fingers in China does something extra to arouse you.

In your two income scenario you say the woman takes care of the kids? If shes working a good chunk of the day missing. The kids are either at school or day care. In either case all that is left after work is dinner and laundry.

I'm purposing gender based segregation until woman understand where the true balance of power rests. Women have one main weapon and they complain about us being so obsessed with it.

Two XX genes, a vagina and breasts.

women and men should be contributing a 'partnership'

that is to say, as a woman, I can pay my own way, I can pay for protection and repairmen for that matter

just as well as a guy can clean his own house and do his own laundry and cooking

but as PARTNERS , we can do all that with a 'friend' at our side who genuinely wishes to be a helpmate

so, I dont think sex should be the focus anymore than money,, friendship and compatibility make for much more satisfying relationships than can be bought or 'laid'

Obviously you know very little about women.



Ah, insults. Well, I hope you enjoy your hand because with that attitude, you'll probably be relying upon it a lot.



Obvious that you know nothing about taking care of kids either.



Do you mean you're "proposing" segregation? Oh, now I understand. If that means that you won't be dealing with women, I'm all for it. Such an angry young man, it's impossible to try and hold an intelligent discussion with you. I'm done.

I'm joking and having fun... You are the angry one taking everything too seriously. Way too jump all over my mistake by the way.

A stay at home mother has A LOT to do regarding young kids, but don't try and take credit for a full days of work from both your kids and your employer it doesn't go both ways.

By the way most men have no problem splitting the workload at home.

I'm working on my new way of life where I get all my sex from my hand and have a non sexual partner ship with another man. If I can stick with it I'm pretty sure I will rule the world within 6 weeks.

In a partner, I look for confidence, imagination, compassion, passion, goals, enough similarities to bring us together, enough differences to keep it interesting.

WoW all of a sudden so many women are so independent... It's easy to say you can take care of your self and maybe you can but this is not the average case. If you are an exceptional woman good for you.

Lets break down this list.


Prepares dinner Fast Food
Helps kids with their homework Don't raise stupid kids
Baths and hair wash 10 minutes
Bedtime stories Audio books
Throw a load in the washing machine 30 seconds
Does the dishes Throw away the wrappers 10seconds
Waters the gardens Sprinkler system
Sweeps and washes the Floors Prevention means no cleaning
Puts the laundry in the dryer 30 seconds
Cleans the bathroom after the baths Scrub free spray 2 minutes
Makes lunches for the children Lunch money
Folds the laundry and puts it away 5 minutes

Total Time 18 minutes 10 seconds
Case closed =)

Good luck with that



Women should be independent. You can only take a relationship to the heights it can go with two equals. Not the same ... but equal.

Nice list.

ArtGurl wow you have a sense of humor I think that makes you the first person I met here on my first day in the forum.