Topic: Public Firing Squad And Hangings
AndyBgood's photo
Sat 06/25/11 08:31 AM
The whole concept of avoiding the death penalty to avoid harming innocents is Fallacious!

First and foremost this can lead to a host of "What Ifs." Sorry but a fool would rather the release of 10 killers to save one innocent life. That has to be the most foolish thing I have seen expressed in a while.

First things first I like Texas's fast track system. Got Film of a criminal killing someone? Eye witnesses? Well, the criminal is screwed! That is how it should be. BUT...

Should people testify falsely, a DA push for a punishment when there is uncertainty and suddenly proof the sentenced was innocent? Or worst, what if the DA is conviction hungry and pushes to punish an innocent just to keep his numbers up? Then the death penalty should apply to the DA, lawyers, and any and ALL witnesses who lied including police officers and anyone else who's testimony lead to the death of an innocent. It sucks in ideal yes but in defense making it so the death penalty is reflexive towards those who would use the system to murder innocent people is a protection that should be in place.

Now for those who are career criminals. If the person in question is a thief and keeps winding up back in jail, well three strikes they serve 20 years at hard labor. No Camp Snoopie. Quarries, Gravel Yards, Digging holes in the desert. That kind of stuff. Three time violent felon? Three strikes and they should just DIE! By the third sentencing it should be clear that person has no desire to live among us and our laws as a "law abiding citizen" and if we can't get rid of them we should CULL THEM like diseased animals with terminal conditions. A person should have learned their lesson by conviction number 2.

Frankly in my opinion no prison sentence should be more than 10 years unless someone died and then the death penalty should apply automatically.

A question for those against the death penalty... What if (YEP, I went there) a car thief, a career car thief and gang banger stole a car and in running from the police ran your child over killing them? how long a prison sentence would you hope for? Life? So now we have to support someone who wound up killing someone committing their crime? They get to live while your own child lost their life?

If it was my kid I would be demanding blood and demand to witness their execution. Sorry all but I want to see some of the human trash culled! There are way too many of us as it is and we have to tolerate the bad ones among us? I don't think so!

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 06/25/11 08:42 AM

The whole concept of avoiding the death penalty to avoid harming innocents is Fallacious!

First and foremost this can lead to a host of "What Ifs." Sorry but a fool would rather the release of 10 killers to save one innocent life. That has to be the most foolish thing I have seen expressed in a while.




What if that one innocent life was one you loved...
your child perhaps, would that change the rules for you?

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 06/25/11 09:10 AM
The 'eye for an eye' mentality seems a popular one....
where does that come from?

If only those who take a life have their lives taken...what is to be done with the rest of the felons, just keep them locked up?

I happen to believe that anyone who commits a horrible crime against another is terribly ill..sick in ways we can not even understand.

Shouldn't we help them to heal..or just 'kill them back?'

mightymoe's photo
Sat 06/25/11 05:39 PM







Just because a person has a felony conviction doesn't mean that they need to DIE.


no, it's better to let them live in a prison for the rest of their life, on our dime.... 530 dollars a day per prisoner, times 30-50 years, is way cheaper than a bullet.(about 37 cents per bullet)

whoa whoa whoa whoa
That was not the point he was making. No one would keep someone in jail for the rest of there life say for bouncing a check and then failing to pay it, but that would be a felony if it was for more than 1 thousand dollars.

The punishment should be commiserate to the crime.



there's a lot to be said for the "eye for an eye" laws...but another way to look at it is the lawbreakers know what they are doing, and know it is against the law...murder should be met with death, anything that destroys another life should be dealt with accordingly...


there is an over crowded prisons thread --in politics... i thought this was about killing criminals and watching them die
all for it... cept for the watching them die part...




so you want the criminal to die, but you don't want to watch?


i don't need to watch

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 06/25/11 05:43 PM








Just because a person has a felony conviction doesn't mean that they need to DIE.


no, it's better to let them live in a prison for the rest of their life, on our dime.... 530 dollars a day per prisoner, times 30-50 years, is way cheaper than a bullet.(about 37 cents per bullet)

whoa whoa whoa whoa
That was not the point he was making. No one would keep someone in jail for the rest of there life say for bouncing a check and then failing to pay it, but that would be a felony if it was for more than 1 thousand dollars.

The punishment should be commiserate to the crime.



there's a lot to be said for the "eye for an eye" laws...but another way to look at it is the lawbreakers know what they are doing, and know it is against the law...murder should be met with death, anything that destroys another life should be dealt with accordingly...


there is an over crowded prisons thread --in politics... i thought this was about killing criminals and watching them die
all for it... cept for the watching them die part...




so you want the criminal to die, but you don't want to watch?


i don't need to watch


anyone who wishes another dead should have to watch

mightymoe's photo
Sat 06/25/11 05:45 PM









Just because a person has a felony conviction doesn't mean that they need to DIE.


no, it's better to let them live in a prison for the rest of their life, on our dime.... 530 dollars a day per prisoner, times 30-50 years, is way cheaper than a bullet.(about 37 cents per bullet)

whoa whoa whoa whoa
That was not the point he was making. No one would keep someone in jail for the rest of there life say for bouncing a check and then failing to pay it, but that would be a felony if it was for more than 1 thousand dollars.

The punishment should be commiserate to the crime.



there's a lot to be said for the "eye for an eye" laws...but another way to look at it is the lawbreakers know what they are doing, and know it is against the law...murder should be met with death, anything that destroys another life should be dealt with accordingly...


there is an over crowded prisons thread --in politics... i thought this was about killing criminals and watching them die
all for it... cept for the watching them die part...




so you want the criminal to die, but you don't want to watch?


i don't need to watch


anyone who wishes another dead should have to watch


fine with me.. i don't need to watch, but i can and would enjoy it... popcorn anyone?

no photo
Sat 06/25/11 05:47 PM

lets start with the global elite and work our way down from there.



rofl rofl rofl

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 06/25/11 05:58 PM
=ell, I think they ought to send tanks through the streets, especially the poor neighborhoods, and just randomly take out whole blocks of people. Some of them are bound to be career criminals or child molesters anyway. And think what it would do to help clear up blight in our cities, and decrease the amount of money spent on all those silly entitlement programs.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 06/25/11 06:00 PM

=ell, I think they ought to send tanks through the streets, especially the poor neighborhoods, and just randomly take out whole blocks of people. Some of them are bound to be career criminals or child molesters anyway. And think what it would do to help clear up blight in our cities, and decrease the amount of money spent on all those silly entitlement programs.


spoken like a true republican...whoa

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 06/25/11 06:02 PM


=ell, I think they ought to send tanks through the streets, especially the poor neighborhoods, and just randomly take out whole blocks of people. Some of them are bound to be career criminals or child molesters anyway. And think what it would do to help clear up blight in our cities, and decrease the amount of money spent on all those silly entitlement programs.


spoken like a true republican...whoa


Or a very sarcastic socialist.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 06/25/11 06:03 PM



=ell, I think they ought to send tanks through the streets, especially the poor neighborhoods, and just randomly take out whole blocks of people. Some of them are bound to be career criminals or child molesters anyway. And think what it would do to help clear up blight in our cities, and decrease the amount of money spent on all those silly entitlement programs.


spoken like a true republican...whoa


Or a very sarcastic socialist.


there are some subtle under tones of sarcasm around here...

mightymoe's photo
Sat 06/25/11 06:07 PM




=ell, I think they ought to send tanks through the streets, especially the poor neighborhoods, and just randomly take out whole blocks of people. Some of them are bound to be career criminals or child molesters anyway. And think what it would do to help clear up blight in our cities, and decrease the amount of money spent on all those silly entitlement programs.


spoken like a true republican...whoa


Or a very sarcastic socialist.


there are some subtle under tones of sarcasm around here...


was that sarcasm? i couldn't tell...

no photo
Sat 06/25/11 06:14 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/25/11 06:14 PM


thank you!!! I am a jew. So was Jesus



If a man named Jesus truly existed, he could not have been "a Jew" as Judaism did not even exist as a religion during the alleged time of Jesus.

The religion of the time was Talmudic Pharisaism. It evolved into "Judaism" in the 7th century. (A Judean is not a Jew.)

The form of religious worship known as "Pharisaism" in Judea in the time of Jesus was a religious practice based exclusively upon the Talmud. The Talmud in the time of Jesus was the Magna Charta, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, ALL ROLLED INTO ONE, of those who practiced "Pharisaism".

Any claim that "Jesus was a Jew" should be preceded by the reading of the Talmud. The official unabridged Soncino Edition of the Talmud published in 1935 can be seen at the Library of Congress.

It was translated into English with Notes, Glossary and Indices" by such eminent Talmudic scholars as Rabbi Dr. I. Epstein, Rabbi Dr. Samuel Daiches, Rabbi Dr. Israel W. Slotki, M.A., Litt.D., The Reverend Dr. A. Cohen, M.A.', Ph.D., Maurice Simon, M.A., and the Very Reverend The Chief Rabbi Dr. J.H. Hertz wrote the "Foreword" for the Soncino Edition of the Talmud. The Very Reverend Rabbi Hertz was at the time the Chief Rabbi of England.


Here is a Christian web site that believes in Jesus but does not believe the Lie that he is a "Jew."

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm

Personally I don't believe in Jesus. They say that Jesus was a 'Judean', not a Jew.


mightymoe's photo
Sat 06/25/11 06:30 PM



thank you!!! I am a jew. So was Jesus



If a man named Jesus truly existed, he could not have been "a Jew" as Judaism did not even exist as a religion during the alleged time of Jesus.

The religion of the time was Talmudic Pharisaism. It evolved into "Judaism" in the 7th century. (A Judean is not a Jew.)

The form of religious worship known as "Pharisaism" in Judea in the time of Jesus was a religious practice based exclusively upon the Talmud. The Talmud in the time of Jesus was the Magna Charta, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, ALL ROLLED INTO ONE, of those who practiced "Pharisaism".

Any claim that "Jesus was a Jew" should be preceded by the reading of the Talmud. The official unabridged Soncino Edition of the Talmud published in 1935 can be seen at the Library of Congress.

It was translated into English with Notes, Glossary and Indices" by such eminent Talmudic scholars as Rabbi Dr. I. Epstein, Rabbi Dr. Samuel Daiches, Rabbi Dr. Israel W. Slotki, M.A., Litt.D., The Reverend Dr. A. Cohen, M.A.', Ph.D., Maurice Simon, M.A., and the Very Reverend The Chief Rabbi Dr. J.H. Hertz wrote the "Foreword" for the Soncino Edition of the Talmud. The Very Reverend Rabbi Hertz was at the time the Chief Rabbi of England.


Here is a Christian web site that believes in Jesus but does not believe the Lie that he is a "Jew."

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm

Personally I don't believe in Jesus. They say that Jesus was a 'Judean', not a Jew.


your just going to bash jews in every post, huh? got some hate going on there?

no photo
Sat 06/25/11 06:33 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/25/11 06:35 PM
mightymoe

History is history.
How is the fact that Jesus was NOT a Jew, considered "Jew Bashing?"
What is your problem???

Jesus was not a Jew, get used to it.

Lies are lies. I'm sick of them.

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 06/25/11 06:33 PM





=ell, I think they ought to send tanks through the streets, especially the poor neighborhoods, and just randomly take out whole blocks of people. Some of them are bound to be career criminals or child molesters anyway. And think what it would do to help clear up blight in our cities, and decrease the amount of money spent on all those silly entitlement programs.


spoken like a true republican...whoa


Or a very sarcastic socialist.


there are some subtle under tones of sarcasm around here...


was that sarcasm? i couldn't tell...


Depends on your state of mind when you read it I suppose.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 06/25/11 06:37 PM

History is history.
How is that fact Jew Bashing?

Jesus was not a Jew, get used to it.

Lies are lies. I'm sick of them.


i don't know, never met the man...but the rest of the world thinks he is... personally, i don't care what he was, but i see no reason to bash jews on this topic...

no photo
Sat 06/25/11 06:39 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 06/25/11 06:45 PM


History is history.
How is that fact Jew Bashing?

Jesus was not a Jew, get used to it.

Lies are lies. I'm sick of them.


i don't know, never met the man...but the rest of the world thinks he is... personally, i don't care what he was, but i see no reason to bash jews on this topic...


I ask you again, how are these facts considered "bashing Jews?"
I don't even know who spread that Lie, I just know it is a lie.

Personally I think Jesus was a fictional Character. Lies.
That he "is was Jew" ridiculous. Lies.

How is that "Jew bashing?"

What is wrong with you? Why do you accuse me of "Jew bashing?"

And apparently 'The rest of the world' if they believe that, should know the truth.

The fact is, no, the rest of the world does NOT believe it.




josie68's photo
Sat 06/25/11 09:22 PM
Hmmm In australia there is no death penalty..

Personally i dont want it.

However i do think that most people here get off to easily.

What would I want to do to them i have no idea, but to me as foolish as it sounds killing one wrong person is too many.



Totage's photo
Sat 06/25/11 09:28 PM
Edited by Totage on Sat 06/25/11 09:30 PM




There are 4 good reasons to start having public executions
of convicted felons. I think we should stick with two
options. Firing squad and hanging are sensible choices
since rope and bullets are cheap and plentiful.
We'll shoot the badguy/gal and hang the really badboy/gal.
They should suffer a little more.


1. Their criminals, they deserve to die excruciatingly.
2. It will save us law abiding citizens a bundle not
having to house them, feed them, give em an aspirin.
3. It will create revenue for each town that carries
out an execution because......this is the best part,
there will be a cover charge!
4. It'll be good family fun, take the kids. People
love this ****!


How much should the ticket be? What's a fair price?
Would you go? How much would you pay to watch someone
suffer and die?



I think they should make islands out of waste a few miles out to sea and put them on the island to fend for themselves.

I mean the rapists, murderers, molesters, those type.