kill me baby...

Send em all here...



Meet the head guard Alice.



And this would be the warden.



Jailbot inflicts savage beating regularly on inmates!



Of course we all know time police are not real!

It is not foolish, it is the standard of innocent until proven guilty "beyond a shadow of a doubt". The reality is that many innocent people are on death row RIGHT NOW. The evidence to prove there innocence is available and prosecutors and judges would rather shrug away that evidence, or endorse statues of limitations for the use of that evidence than loose face.

It is about justice for all, not just those with lots of money.

We the people have the right to defend ourselves, and thus if you release a killer becuase you cannot prove "beyond a shadow of doubt" that the person really is a killer then you can still protect yourself. You can never give a person back the life you took and where evidence such as DNA comes to light that proves a conviction wrong we need to use it, even if we do use it it becomes pointless if the person has already been executed.

This is the same theme behind gun ownership in the sense of self defense, do not pull the trigger unless you know your life is in jeopardy, you can never take back the bullet.

I am sorry this seems foolish to you becuase it is the foundation of much of our common law.


Benjamin Franklin.

Sadly we have allowed the government the power to strip us of our rights so that we can feel safe. The idea of innocent until proven guilty has been trampled on repeatedly. We live in a police state where you are guilty until proven innocent and if you are on death row you are inhuman regardless of scientific evidence to the contrary.

A lawyer I know once said, "Innocence is no bar to prosecution."

so you release 10 killers to kill 10 more people to save one life?... your math is a little confusing...

make em watch a cowboys game ???

thats not suffering, that is bliss... suffering would be more along the lines of being a texans fan, and watching them lose year after year...

That is becuase it is not about math, but justice. If the government via the peoples will kills the innocent . . . it is worse than the killers it attempts to punish becuase the government unlike the killers have nearly unlimited recourse to prevent the harm they do.

It is already the mandate of the law to prevent such travesties. It is the sad fact that the people in office will hold there power and authority above the law itself and try to save face instead of doing the right thing.

Instead of repeating the same thing over again, take a moment to consider the other side of the issue. That you are the innocent person on death row who was convicted of a crime they did not commit. Should you be killed to make it easier on the auditors of so called justice? Does that add up?

I asked this earlier of Andy....he never replied.

If that one innocent out of the 10 were your child, your lover, friend, mother, father...one you cared about and KNEW without a doubt was not guilty, would that make you more inclined to let ALL ten go if it would save the life of your loved one?

that would do it for me...
remind me to NEVER piss you off when there is a game coming on

that's the sign of a true fan

I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy

i don't think that would ever be my decision to make... all i could do is fight for their freedom...and the reverse to that is, what if one of those ten killed your child, lover, mother or father after they were released? if your daughter was raped and butchered by one or more of them, would that make it all worthwhile?... the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...

Without going into detail..it is a violent death 'event'
that changed my views about life, death, capitol punishment
...and my own mortality.
I will never be in a position where I make any judgment or decision on who dies and who doesn't.
To me all life is sacred. There is also karmic debts that must be paid.. I know that's hard for most to understand.

i think i understand... i feel that way about animals, but not humans... i don't like killing anything unnecessarily, but sometimes it happens

My vow of non violence carries over into my eating habits..
I'm a vegetarian.
My 19 year old son says... people are mean and stupid, we deserve everything we get, the animals are nothing but love. I'd rather be in a room full of cats than a room full of stupid mean people.

Out of the mouths of babes...

well, i'm not salad eater, i do believe in the food chain... and glad we are on top of it...ummmmmm meat...

we are on top of it for now.... hmmmmm

eat a salad now and then, keeps ya regular : )

a regular what? rabbit? the rabbit can eat the salad, then i'll eat the rabbit and get the same nutrients...

ALRIGHTY! I do have a life and I do work so sometimes it takes a little bit for me to get back...

Anyhoo, The whole ideal of releasing 10 killers to protect one innocent life is a fallacy. There is no way of saying it any other way.

The fact is that no system is perfect. The thing that is less perfect is the fact that our system is naturally corrupt. But likewise there has to be reasonable suspicion to make an accusation. When a crime is not completely provable, ie, some shadow of doubt then an accused murderer should be held indefinitely until their innocence is ascertained or proven, and compensated for their trouble after release, or if total and tangible proof can be made then an execution should happen.

In the event proof is complete, nonrefundable, and concrete, then the accused deserves to die! In Texas a murderer gets the fast track to death if there is video proof.

But like I said in the event of an attorney who knowingly presses the conviction of an innocent man, the officers participating, anyone participating in an innocent man's death likewise deserve to die if they cause the death of an innocent person. DAs have been busted for abuses of station and illegal imprisonment.


There is a difference, a HUGE difference between reasonable shadow of doubt and NO DOUBT! Also with no deterrent criminals will just go around killing people unless they know there is a price to be paid if caught.

Morally the Death Penalty is bad. But honestly the Human Species IS BAD. The bad ones make life trouble for those of us who choose to live good lives. People who are trouble here know I would put up a fight and possible kill them if the situation was pushed on me where I had to defend myself. Knowing I could and would put a load of buckshot in them makes them think twice and three times before they get the idea to victimize me. People who will not put up a fight invite being the victim. That is how America needs to think about this. If a person is convicted of murder, as in they premeditated and carried out the act, and it can be proven within a reasonable framework of our law then they deserve to die. If the evidence points to them but the preponderance of proof still is not concrete, as in porous and leaves room for some doubt, then a life sentence applies. If proven later concretely then bring forth the executioner. if proven to have not been the killer? Freedom and recompense.

I cannot agree with the moral high ground about the idea innocent people die. You can't get mad at a Tornado that kills dozens. That is an act of god and proof bad things just happen when they do. And mistakes can be made no matter how air tight any system of justice anyone comes up with is perceived to be.

BTW, if a known and violent offender threatens to kill me when they get a chance, and it is known this person will try and I shoot them in the back as that person tries to flee from me why is that murder?

This country and justice system is too full of hypocrisy!

Victims don't fight back!

I do!