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| Topic: Every Mistake, We Must Surely Be Learning.... | |
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this is a song. I cant remember which song, but its a song. tell me! Ah, got it, beatles. I had a feeling. George Harrison.....I was listening to it earlier, prompted me to ask the question. : ) I love the song and Harrison  Me too. and the beatles in general. Rare that Harrison wrote the songs but theres some goodies. They were all fab obviously. All Things Must Pass is one of the best pieces of music ever written (the record in its entirety) and @ ladylid- I basically agree as far as the woe is me thing but sometimes people really ARE victims, unfortunately. I think it's a litte harsh to require stoicism from someone recently vctimized |
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this is a song. I cant remember which song, but its a song. tell me! Ah, got it, beatles. I had a feeling. George Harrison.....I was listening to it earlier, prompted me to ask the question. : ) I love the song and Harrison Me too. and the beatles in general. Rare that Harrison wrote the songs but theres some goodies. They were all fab obviously. All Things Must Pass is one of the best pieces of music ever written (the record in its entirety) and @ ladylid- I basically agree as far as the woe is me thing but sometimes people really ARE victims, unfortunately. I think it's a litte harsh to require stoicism from someone recently vctimized All George's songs are awesome.... I require nothing from anyone. I am the least harshest person you would ever meet, if we were to ever meet. My empathy oozes for others pain. Everyone is a victim at one time or another, no dispute there. We each deal with it the way that we see fit, whatever works for ya is one of my favorite sayings. Even the victim can find a lesson in their pain, a lesson in all things, if we allow it. |
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The choice is always our own...
we reconcile, process, weigh and measure... arrive at reasons, live through seasons, and meander through lifetimes... life is a lesson. |
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this is a song. I cant remember which song, but its a song. tell me! Ah, got it, beatles. I had a feeling. George Harrison.....I was listening to it earlier, prompted me to ask the question. : ) I love the song and Harrison Me too. and the beatles in general. Rare that Harrison wrote the songs but theres some goodies. They were all fab obviously. All Things Must Pass is one of the best pieces of music ever written (the record in its entirety) and @ ladylid- I basically agree as far as the woe is me thing but sometimes people really ARE victims, unfortunately. I think it's a litte harsh to require stoicism from someone recently vctimized All George's songs are awesome.... I require nothing from anyone. I am the least harshest person you would ever meet, if we were to ever meet. My empathy oozes for others pain. Everyone is a victim at one time or another, no dispute there. We each deal with it the way that we see fit, whatever works for ya is one of my favorite sayings. Even the victim can find a lesson in their pain, a lesson in all things, if we allow it. nice 
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The choice is always our own... we reconcile, process, weigh and measure... arrive at reasons, live through seasons, and meander through lifetimes... life is a lesson. yes, I guess older should mean wiser but alas it doesn't always why do u think we repeat mistakes? |
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yes, I guess older should mean wiser but alas it doesn't always why do u think we repeat mistakes? Because we have to be open to the exquisite gift within the 'mistake'....to understand it with our hearts, not our heads, or egos. If we aren't, then we get 'stuck'....repeating the patterns. The soldiness of you, within you, will recognise the same pattern emerging, and do something different, when you KNOW where you chose wrongly in the past. None of this resides in one's head...the thinking part...it resides in the YOU that you are, and instinctually we move away from pain...labelling, accusing, pointing always at something other than us.. we have to own our part, to stop the repeating....and then forgive ourselves, and others. |
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nicely said Jess
the forgiving of ourselves is important, then we can stop punishing ourselves. Even more so, not allow others to punish us... any more. |
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yes, I guess older should mean wiser but alas it doesn't always why do u think we repeat mistakes? Because we have to be open to the exquisite gift within the 'mistake'....to understand it with our hearts, not our heads, or egos. If we aren't, then we get 'stuck'....repeating the patterns. The soldiness of you, within you, will recognise the same pattern emerging, and do something different, when you KNOW where you chose wrongly in the past. None of this resides in one's head...the thinking part...it resides in the YOU that you are, and instinctually we move away from pain...labelling, accusing, pointing always at something other than us.. we have to own our part, to stop the repeating....and then forgive ourselves, and others. yes - I have made mistakes and found it hard to forgive the other person. tho I have been able to forgive myself because I understand the reasons why I let myself make this mistake I am now thinking of the other ( and it's no one from here) I have had a difficult time to forgive as he knew of my vulnerability at the time and took full advantage of it the lesson to me is not one of being more wary, though I am, that is more a result the lesson I learned was to give from the heart...that after everything, I have the capacity still, to give from the heart sometimes we do lose ourselves to find ourselves. thank you and lady lid for the comments. so very helpful!
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unless you are digging a hole in 'victimhood' or 'martyrdom' which I can't see you doing then ....
Yes! 
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Edited by
fireflysgirl
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Wed 05/25/11 08:44 PM
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Hopefully and in a perfect world we learn from our mistakes and don't keep making the same ones over and over. Unfortunately there seems to be an endless array of mistakes we make, get one thing straight and something else comes along. I think a big part of mistakes lies in each of our abilities to be honest, to take care of ourselves as well as to be careful of others, to take care of others. If we are honest and pay attention to our 'guts' I think we make far fewer mistakes. Usually we feel bad before we make the mistake and do it anyway, how silly is that?!! To bad we seem unable to learn from other people's mistakes! Yeah, seems we want to and need to experience the experience for ourselves...and there is always something. I agree that listening to the gut can get us out of any situation. We have intuition for a reason, most don't use it, or trust it. I think knowing how to trust your gut is a learned thing, if you practice and pay attention you learn that it is the most reliable tool we have. I long ago learned to trust mine and totally respect it. My gut or intuition has served me well in situations from extreme danger to love and everything in between. absolutely....we all have intuition, just using it comes in time. It really is a very powerful and helpful tool. It's a beautiful thing! Yes ma'am...learned to trust mine the hard way! The place where I do yoga now has workshops to help people develop their intuition. |
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yes, I guess older should mean wiser but alas it doesn't always why do u think we repeat mistakes? Because we have to be open to the exquisite gift within the 'mistake'....to understand it with our hearts, not our heads, or egos. If we aren't, then we get 'stuck'....repeating the patterns. The soldiness of you, within you, will recognise the same pattern emerging, and do something different, when you KNOW where you chose wrongly in the past. None of this resides in one's head...the thinking part...it resides in the YOU that you are, and instinctually we move away from pain...labelling, accusing, pointing always at something other than us.. we have to own our part, to stop the repeating....and then forgive ourselves, and others. yes - I have made mistakes and found it hard to forgive the other person. tho I have been able to forgive myself because I understand the reasons why I let myself make this mistake I am now thinking of the other ( and it's no one from here) I have had a difficult time to forgive as he knew of my vulnerability at the time and took full advantage of it the lesson to me is not one of being more wary, though I am, that is more a result the lesson I learned was to give from the heart...that after everything, I have the capacity still, to give from the heart sometimes we do lose ourselves to find ourselves. thank you and lady lid for the comments. so very helpful! awesome Thank you |
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I say "yes" because sometimes we take 2 and 3 steps backward and only one step forward. And that step forward might only be a sliver of the lesson that needs to be learned. Can we fault anyone for not getting it the first time around? I try very hard not to. Everyone learns in their own time and reasoning. Everyone here has wonderful input and thoughts and ideals. I like reading them because they are great learning tools to question my own reasoning. I make so many mistakes it's not funny. I can definately say that I learned from many of them; but I do think the rest of my time on this earth will be spent learning from the rest of them
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@winterblue
Were all a work in progress....I guess things would be too easy if we learned the very first time, be nice though. I've gotten better with using intuition, if my gut tells me, I listen. Took a long time to trust it though. Doesn't stop my trials from coming, has helped with handling them. I enjoy the input, we can all learn from each other, what a gift that is for us... most don't examine their lives at all, just whine about it. Not to make light of people's problems, just watch so many get caught up in the victim mentality forgetting that there may just be some grand reason why they are experiencing what they are experiencing...no accidents. Thanks for sharing your thoughts |
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I say "yes" because sometimes we take 2 and 3 steps backward and only one step forward. And that step forward might only be a sliver of the lesson that needs to be learned. Can we fault anyone for not getting it the first time around? I try very hard not to. Everyone learns in their own time and reasoning. Everyone here has wonderful input and thoughts and ideals. I like reading them because they are great learning tools to question my own reasoning. I make so many mistakes it's not funny. I can definately say that I learned from many of them; but I do think the rest of my time on this earth will be spent learning from the rest of them . YES! And simply being a beautiful disaster...rushing towards all these opportunities to learn, to grow to bloom!.... if I stumble, I know I am moving.
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Some mistakes are worth making over and over again.
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right on Jess
when i think i know what's happening....all i know then is i know nothing!!! jump and the net appears..... |
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YES! And simply being a beautiful disaster...rushing towards all these opportunities to learn, to grow to bloom!.... if I stumble, I know I am moving. You hit the mark Jess ....a beautiful disaster. And sung so beautifully by Kelly Clarkson |
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@winterblue Were all a work in progress....I guess things would be too easy if we learned the very first time, be nice though. I've gotten better with using intuition, if my gut tells me, I listen. Took a long time to trust it though. Doesn't stop my trials from coming, has helped with handling them. I enjoy the input, we can all learn from each other, what a gift that is for us... most don't examine their lives at all, just whine about it. Not to make light of people's problems, just watch so many get caught up in the victim mentality forgetting that there may just be some grand reason why they are experiencing what they are experiencing...no accidents. Thanks for sharing your thoughts I try to listen too but sometimes my heart gets in the way of my gut  . |
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Some mistakes are worth making over and over again.
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@winterblue Were all a work in progress....I guess things would be too easy if we learned the very first time, be nice though. I've gotten better with using intuition, if my gut tells me, I listen. Took a long time to trust it though. Doesn't stop my trials from coming, has helped with handling them. I enjoy the input, we can all learn from each other, what a gift that is for us... most don't examine their lives at all, just whine about it. Not to make light of people's problems, just watch so many get caught up in the victim mentality forgetting that there may just be some grand reason why they are experiencing what they are experiencing...no accidents. Thanks for sharing your thoughts I try to listen too but sometimes my heart gets in the way of my gut . yes and that is why when someone says "why did she/he do that? all the signs were there!" I think, for me at least, it's because I do not care for assumptions and prejudice...so I let each new beginning be.... to unfold...waiting for the signs (if they are anything negative) to be wrong I know this will work in my favor someday but it prolly sounds crazy
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