Hey Andy,how ya doing tonight?
I THINK he may be talking about my reply,,as I have HEARD THAT from folks here now for about five years,,,lol,,ITS A ME THING!!!!
People who read much,,or books a LOT,,,HATE MY CAPS then small type.
I GUESS?,,,THAT really messes with them .So I have tried to tone it down a bit...but hey,,,blame it on my educationaldisfuction, lol...

Doing OK doing my spring cleaning!

Hey, whatever keeps the reader on their toes!

I have bi-polar --- and no - it was not misdiagnosed.

I know this because the medication actually helped significantly. That is really the true test. Does the medication help. My reaction to it was classic for people that are bi-polar.

The thought in my head - "If this is the way everyone feels all the time, I have been gypped my whole life."

There are a lot of people that have problems. From what I can tell, the people that have problems aren't ready to admit they have a problem or someone else pushed them to seek help. If either of these are the case, the medication will only help short term or whenever they decided to take it. The - on-again-off-again people.

But so far Josie, in another thread, has been the only one that described what bi-polar is and does to those that have it. She did it very well to the point that I would be unable to get the same understanding she would because I do have it. If I say it, it will sound like I am just asking for pity.

There are no such things as "bi-polar attacks." It is a state of being. What you describe as an attack is just something other people can see and point to as something is wrong with that guy. Bi-polar is a chronic condition like diabetes. It doesn't go away.

It is ever-present impact on all thoughts and feelings in your life.

I know those that have bi-polar and manage it well! They do things in life to help keep them balanced and take meds as needed. It's something that takes work to keep in check!

I also know folks that use it as a cop out to not work and stay messed up on drugs all the time...I call them cralazy because they are really just lazy, but claim to be so mentally messed up that they can't function so the gov't will give them a check every month! These people know enough about it to play the system and people into feeling sorry for them.

No offense to those truly suffering through tough times with it either. I have had panic attacks from PTSD and struggle with chronic depression. I refused to take the magic little happy pills and try to live a healthy and balanced lifestyle and just deal with issues as they come. I took an herbal serotonin supplement for years, but haven't taken it since last year when I broke up with my Bf and just don't seem to need it now.

It's amazing how happy I am here lately

I can also attest to this subject. I'll leave my heart wide open here and say that I have medically/clinically been diagnosed with Bipolar, Severe Anxiety Disorder, and Paranoia Schizophrenia.

Does this make me some sort of freak murderer?! NO! Do I have problems? YES, I do and I've come to terms with it. It's very hard for others to understand because it's rare (not so much the Biplor but the latter).

I've been in wards, seen countless of doctors and once you go through that hell you won't get help. Now I've been on the RIGHT medicication and the RIGHT dosage for the last year and I've been fine. Sure we all have our moments and "episodes" as I like to call them, but they pass and we'll be ourselves again.

But if you don't seek help and live in your own little hell, that's all your life will be..hell

My mother had severe depression diagnosed at a time when those were the terms, My husband suffered from manic depression, undiagnosed, but our family lived with, suffered with and God in His mercy, took him with Leukemia. The last year of his life was actually wonderful, meds helped him to peace out and recognize his then quality of life. My youngest daughter is formally diagnosed, bi-polar with schizo-effective. We have been walked together through at least 20 med changes, all cold turkey7 or 8 state hospital stays(short) to stabilize meds(a Laugh)4 of which were last year between May and September when my sweet child became violent. She tried to have her tubes tied so she would not have a child ripped from her again, should that happen and the medical community fought against her until finally.
Presently she is on a 5 med cocktail, stable and has gained almost a hundred lbs, has diabetes and struggles just to hear from the daddy of her sweet boy, hoping to be able to feel something close to keep from dying inside. Daddy can use drugs and live a semblance of normalcy, have her child and control her for sex in order to see her baby. Her body produces Pheromones and she is always being approached for physical relationships which is all a part of the situation.

It does not go away...It is a state of being.

oh, forgot one tidbit.

over 90% of marriages where at least one person is bi-polar end in divorce.

That should give you an idea of what it is like to be bi-polar or live with someone that is.

Life is NEVER easy.

amen

Probably why I've had 2 divorces!

hey,
you may wanna wacht steven frys "the secret live of the manic depressive" it shows quite good how it is to be bi-polar and what it means, i know quite some ppl with that "illness" and id say stevens docu is really good to learn about it.
hope this helps you
greetings :)

More and more Doctors are in it for the money anymore. The VA tells me I should be on meds for ADHD, Anxiety, PTSD, and whatever the current doc wants to diagnose me as. If I'm functional without drugs, such as my parents, why would I do that to my body to treat a few symptoms, it doesn't fix the problem, it just creates a different one. It is pretty much the same with most people that see Docs regularly. I trust my Vet more than my kids' physician, especially when I had to go back and clean up his stitching on my son. Your paying someone to take your money and make more money off of you. Hobbies and outlets are way better for my symptoms and mental health than any drug cocktail. If that don't work, I pay attention to bodies cravings, fruit, veg, dairy, water, and what-not. Herbs can also benefit without toxifying your body or feeling like your in a cloud. Focus, mood swings, anxiety, restlessness... my research lead me to THC. Easy to get lost in it, but many can be more productive in moderation, or occasionally. Then again, what works for one person, or 100, likely will adversely react with another, as with any pharmacology. I treat Docs like I treat the police... if I can't figure it out for myself, or with some educated, researched advise, then I'll seek the opinion of some dude that had the money to get a piece of paper that says they studied to do job for a paycheck. My Butcher gives way better stitches, with little to no scarring.

What about extreme highs and extreme lows? I've seen this in those who have been diagnosed...wouldn't this be a 'bi-polar attack?' Or the like..

I completely disagree with everything you said. You won't intoxicate your body with medicated drugs such as pills, but you'll toxicate if with THC?? It's the same **** dude! They're both still a drug in the end! and I don't care what anybody says, marijuana isn't the fix all to mental health problems. I know, for one, that with my schizophrenia, my doctor told me that's actually the WORST thing I could do, because it'll make my paranoia 10x's higher!
But then again, you're a hippie guy, doesn't surprise me.

Yes it is. I have those from time to time. And one of my good friends on here can attest to that. They come out of nowhere, and need no real trigger to set them off.

No, that is what I was referring to when I said "something other people can see"

Not an attack really. Just a change in direction. I think the highs are so high because more often than not you are down. Way, way, way down...

Just part of life of being bipolar. Just deal with it as it comes. Before I started on my meds, I would embarrass myself when out in public. I knew I was doing it but didn't care at the time. I was just so happy that I was happy that it made me more happy. But that only happened maybe three times a year. The rest of the time I was trying to figure out why my life sucked so much. I couldn't even be happy going out to a party. I would be thinking of all the other stuff that wasn't working in my life. I could fake being happy though.

That is the best way I can explain it...

I don't like the term "attack" because it implies I am fine the rest of the time.

Bipolar is a mental disease that autmatically ppl wanna lable as "CRAZY" and over half of the population (women especially) suffer from it. But just like in all situations, we're all diff ppl and we all react to things diff.!! Just sayin no two ppl are gonna act, react or be the same at ANYTHING!!! Just know that u are deff not crazy although it can honestly make u feel as if u are and if ur not too careful and don't get the proper treatment it can mess things up in ur life such as relationships with friends, family, ect.
There are diff forms of it... I know it's alot to read but I figure this may be helpful for ya;



From the time Tracy was in early adolescence, she had “hyper” spells for several days at a time. She would read two or three books at once, cook large quantities of food even though she normally did not like to cook, and go on buying sprees. At first, Tracy’s family thought this was normal adolescent behavior. But after awhile they began to notice that Tracy had low spells after her hyper periods. She stayed in her room for several days and refuse to talk to anyone. Her cycles became more intense and frequent until Tracy was finally hospitalized for a suicide attempt during one of her depressed periods.

In another case, John started displaying an extremely high level of energy, began sleeping less than three hours nightly, and started talking excitedly about some big plans and ideas with nearly everyone he met. One night he started running at 1:00 A.M. and ran until he was so exhausted that he fell down and injured himself. Then he stayed up the rest of the night writing 100 pages of fiction that he was convinced would be published. The next morning he did not feel tired.

Tracy and John were both suffering from bipolar disorder—one of the most perplexing and severe psychiatric adjustment conditions, and one that can cause incredible suffering for the individual and his friends and family.

Formerly known as manic depression, bipolar disorder gets its name from the unpredictable mood swings ranging from the pole of extreme highs (mania) to the pole of deep lows (depression).

Imagine the emotional high you feel after a very positive event—like receiving an award at work, falling in love, or reaching the top of a mountain you’ve climbed. Then multiply the intensity of that feeling three or four times, speed it up to “fast forward,” triple your energy level, and imagine feeling that way around the clock for days, weeks, or even months until you collapse from exhaustion. This is a little of what mania feels like.

"At least one person of every one hundred suffers from bipolar disorder."

What’s the problem with having so much energy? here’s the problem: First, you are probably doing a lot of exaggerated, unwise things during your manic state. Many of your ideas are unrealistic and your perpetual motion and excited, exaggerated talking tend to alienate even the best of friends. Second, your high to end. When it does, you come crashing into deep depression. Ten to fifteen percent of people with bipolar disorder end up committing suicide. Tracy, for example, whom we introduced at the beginning of this booklet, became suicidally depressed after she came down from a manic episode. “There’s no hope,” she said. “My mood swings just get worse and worse, and I’ll never have a normal life.” She lost interest in most things and slept through of the day, finally trying to “end it all.”

At least one person of every one hundred suffers from bipolar disorder. The illness typically begins in the late teens or early twenties with men most likely to first have an episode of mania, and women more likely to first experience a depressive phase. The earlier bipolar disorder begins, the more severe the course of the disorder tends to be.
Unmanaged bipolar disorder wreaks havoc in one’s personal, vocational, and family life, and the symptoms recur throughout a person’s life. Over a ten-year period, people with bipolar disorder experience an average of four episodes and five hospitalizations. Even those who have few repeated crises can experience significant ongoing problems between full-blown episodes.

The good news is that bipolar disorder is one of the most treatable of mental disturbances and not all people suffering serious mood swings fall into the extreme disturbances of bipolar disorder. Some suffer from cyclothymic disorder, a less severe problem with fluctuating moods that last for shorter periods and are much less debilitating.

Although bipolar disorder causes significant disruption in the sufferer’s life, many people with mild to moderate forms of the disorder are exceptionally creative and forceful leaders. In fact, some of history’s most influential figures have been retrospectively judged to have suffered from bipolar disorder or some other closely related emotional disorder. Among them are political figures like Winston Churchill, Daniel Webster and Benito Mussolini. Religious leaders like Joseph Smith (founder of Mormonism), William Cowper (poet and hymnwriter), and C.T. Studd (founder of the student missionary movement) all seem to have suffered from bipolar disorder.

MANIA:

People in a “manic episode” are excessively elated, irritable, moody, and energetic. They have little need for sleep (two to three hours per night is common), have rapid and pressured speech, racing thoughts, and may jump abruptly to unrelated topics without transitions. They are also distractible and impulsive. Some drive recklessly. Others go on wild spending sprees, running up thousands of dollars on credit cards or bouncing check after check. Many have an exaggerated sense of their importance and abilities.

In milder manic episodes, the increased energy, rapid thinking, and limited need for sleep can temporarily lead to incredible productivity. People can also become extremely outgoing and sociable and may be convinced that they are brilliant conversationalists or the life of the party.

In severe manic episodes, people with bipolar disorder become psychotic; that is, their thought processes and ability to judge reality are radically impaired. They may begin by being slightly overconfident about their abilities, eventually becoming convinced that they can predict the future or run the country. Sometimes Christians in a manic phase may stop their regular responsibilities and intensely read the Bible or talk to one person after another about God for hours and hours.

Jerry, for example, ran a small but successful shoe store for nearly ten years. Then he entered a manic state and started making grandiose plans for expanding his business. He was convinced he had a plan that would corner the market in his entire state, and probably the entire United States. He rented space for two dozen more stores and ordered tens of thousands of pairs of shoes before his family could stop him. Fortunately, his wife was able to make arrangements to nullify the new building leases and return the shoes to the manufacturer before the family and the business went completely bankrupt!

The elevated, expansive mood that is part of bipolar disorder is often difficult to diagnose at first. Many people think a manic person is simply a very happy, high-energy, elated person. They do not recognize that the mania may also cause the person to be paranoid, irritable, and excessively intense. Mild mania is easily confused with normal mood fluctuations.

Like Tracy, some people with the disorder have to see many different doctors over a period of several years before someone diagnoses the real cause of their problems.
Depression

Depressive episodes of bipolar illness are characterized by the opposite of the manic pole of the emotional continuum. People in depressive episodes feel sad and depressed. They have low energy levels, an increase or decrease in sleep, loss of interest in enjoyable activities, feelings of worthlessness, difficulty concentrating, and suicidal thoughts. Christians in a depressed state typically feel incredibly guilty and self-condemning and may be convinced that God couldn’t love them or that they have lost their salvation.

"Some people with the disorder have to see many different doctors over a period of several years before someone diagnoses the real cause."

Some typically alternate between the extreme moods of mania, depression and normality. Occasionally, however, both the mania and depression are experienced at the same time. This is referred to as a “mixed episode.” Such an episode is characterized by irritability, anxiety, feelings of worthlessness, and sometimes suicidal thoughts accompanied by high energy and activity levels, decreased sleep, and impulsive behavior. Mixed episodes can be extremely dangerous if the person is suicidal, because the manic symptoms may give a person enough energy to carry out the suicide plans which the depression has triggered.

FAMILY STRESS:

Both manic and depressive episodes place incredible stress on friends and family. Since people in a manic state can be unreasonable, emotional, and impulsive, family members fear they will do something hurtful or disastrous. They may get the family into serious debt, have several affairs, quit their jobs, and engage in other foolish behavior. Family members of those in a depressed state can become extremely frustrated when, time after time, their efforts to support and encourage them are rejected and rebuffed.

CAUSES:

Currently, we do not have a clear understanding of precisely what causes bipolar disorder. The higher frequency of bipolar disorder among first degree relatives, however, strongly suggests a genetic basis as a major, if not the major factor in causing the disorder. Coupled with this genetic predisposition may be other physiological factors, as well as long-standing emotional conflicts.

From a spiritual perspective, while all human problems ultimately stem from the disobedience of Adam and Eve which brought sin and evil into society and into individual’s lives, there does not appear to be any particular sin problems in the lives most of people suffering from bipolar disorder. Many fine Christians struggle for much of their lives with this distressing difficulty.

When Christians suffer from bipolar illness, they usually experience major shifts in their spiritual life. During manic states they can be excited and extra visionary, throwing themselves into Bible study, witnessing, or ministry with nearly superhuman effort. They are sure that God has given them a special plan. Then, during depressed states, they become lethargic, guilt-ridden, and even hopeless about having a relationship with God at all.

MEDICAL TREATMENT:

One of the most difficult things about treating bipolar disorder is that there is no complete “cure.” However, while bipolar disorder is difficult to deal with, it is also true that this problem can usually be effectively managed with proper professional care over the long term. Medication, psychotherapy, and lifestyle changes minimize and overcome the most devastating effects of this disorder and enable the sufferers to generally live normal lives at home, work, school, and church. Treatment, however, must be planned for the rest of a person’s life, and it nearly always involves taking medication for many years. Although this can be difficult for bipolar patients and their family members to accept, it is absolutely essential.

The current drug treatments for bipolar disorder typically include what are referred to as mood stabilizers—usually lithium carbonate, divalproex sodium (Depakote), or carbamazepine (Tegretol). Depending on a number of factors such as the specifics of the person’s symptoms and the stage of the disorder, the physician may also prescribe antipsychotic, antidepressant, or antianxiety medication.

While medications do not work perfectly, they help a substantial percentage of people. Approximately 50 to 70 percent of people in a manic state are helped by lithium. Unfortunately, many bipolar patients don’t stay on their medications. Some miss the “high” they experienced during manic episodes and want to return to a state in which they felt on top of the world. Others are bothered by unpleasant side effects like weight gain, memory or concentration problems, and tremors. Others who begin to feel better assume they do not need to continue with medication, and quit without consulting their physician.

One of the most helpful things family members can do for a person suffering from a bipolar disorder is to help him keep taking his medication. If you are close to someone with this disorder, encourage him or her to begin or continue psychotherapy and learn to deal with these issues. This will help the person accept dependence on medication and treatment—which could be life-saving.

One of the critical issues at the beginning of treatment is to address any drug abuse. Fifty to sixty-five percent of people with bipolar disorder abuse drugs—usually stimulants like cocaine or amphetamines, or depressants such as alcohol. They use these drugs for several reasons—especially to recreate the “high” of a manic episode, or to relieve their depression. Drug use may also be caused by the impulsive pleasure-seeking of a manic episode. Good treatment always includes attention to drug abuse because it will sabotage any efforts to manage the disorder.

"Medication, psychotherapy and lifestyle changes minimize and overcome the most devastating effects of this disorder and generally enable the sufferers to live normal lives at home, work, school."

PSYCHOTHERAPY:

Psychotherapy is an essential complement to medical treatment for people with bipolar disorder. Professional counseling helps patients deal with the emotional problems and stressors that trigger the onset of manic or depressive episodes. It can also resolve many of the unstable relational problems, internal struggles, and depressive moods that accompany acute phases of the disorder. Medication alone does not have nearly the positive effect as medication combined with good, long-term, ongoing psychotherapy.

LIFESTYLE CHANGES:

In addition to working closely with a psychiatrist, being faithful in taking prescribed medication and receiving psychotherapy, there are several lifestyle changes that can help people manage their bipolar disorder:

Abstain from the use of all drugs or alcohol. Stimulants can trigger a depressed bipolar person to flip into a manic episode, while sedatives can trigger a depressive phase.

Get regular sleep. Bipolar disorder is closely tied to a person’s core body rhythms. While a manic episode can change a person’s sleep patterns, changes in sleep can also trigger a manic episode.

Minimize caffeine intake. This can also indirectly trigger a manic episode.

Educate oneself and one’s family about the disorder. Then work together to prevent stresses that trigger recurrences.

Discuss with family members ahead of time a plan of action. It helps to deal with future episodes ahead of time. This is done most effectively when the bipolar person’s insight and judgment are not impaired during the middle of an acute manic episode.

Join a support group. This should include both close Christian friends who can offer regular spiritual support, and a support group with other individuals with bipolar disorders along with and their family members. Since people with bipolar disorders often feel that no one understands their mood swings and erratic behavior, support from others who have had similar experiences can be very helpful.
People suffering from bipolar disorders can go through periods of incredible suffering, as can their families. With competent, thorough, and consistent counseling, medication, and practical lifestyle choices, however, they can lead very successful and meaningful lives.

Frequently Asked Questions About Bipolar Disorder

1. What causes it? Physiological factors appear to play the most important role in causing bipolar disorder. There is some evidence of a genetic link. Emotional factors, however, such as excessive stress and loss of close relationships, can trigger the disorder.

2. Can it be cured? There is no absolute cure for bipolar illness. Most sufferers, however, can remain relatively symptom free if they comply rigidly with their medical regime, receive competent, ongoing psychotherapy by a therapist who understands the depth issues of the disorder, and adjust their lifestyle (e.g. absolutely no alcohol or non-prescription drugs).

3. Can a person with bipolar disorder keep his/her job? By all means. People who are compliant with medications, continue psychotherapy, and adjust their lifestyle are able to live normally for most of their lives. If or when they do have recurrences, family understanding and proper medication can generally restabilize them in a relatively short period of time.

4. Does bipolar illness involve demon possession? No. Many committed Christians suffer from bipolar disorder and, like non-Christians, they respond to medications like lithium carbonate. When a person responds to medications, that is clear evidence that the problem is physical or emotional—not a matter of demon possession.

5. Are there any side effects of the medical treatments for bipolar disorder? Yes, there often are. But the consequences of not taking medication may literally be death by suicide or impulsive, dangerous behavior. The person must stay on his or her medication.

6. How long does it take for medication to work? Often within one week of beginning treatment. On lithium carbonate, however, as with many medications, it may take much longer to find precisely the correct dosage. The correct dosage is the one that provides optimal relief of symptoms with a minimum of side effects.

7. How can psychotherapy help? First, by helping patients understand the disorder and learn the importance of taking medication regularly. Second, by helping patients accept themselves with their disorder. Illnesses such as bipolar disorder can tear at one’s self-esteem and make one feel lonely, isolated, and cut off from others. Third, by helping patients grow stronger emotionally, and learn to regulate their moods and handle the conflicts and stresses that can precipitate an acute phase of the disorder. Psychotherapy can also assist patients and their families to deal with family struggles better and to work together to control the patients’ illnesses.

"People suffering from bipolar illnesses and their family members can receive great strength from their faith in Christ as well as their dependence on the Word of God. Christian fellowship also provides much-needed support."

8. How can I help a family member with bipolar illness? Get professional help for that person as soon as you see a manic or depressive episode coming on. Help him or her comply with medical treatment. Be patient and encourage that person to accept him/herself with the disorder. Pray for him. If your family member becomes suicidal or a danger to himself or others, get help immediately from the police or other crisis team.

9. Can’t God heal bipolar illness? Yes, He can. But He rarely does that apart from medication and the counseling and personal growth that comes from facing one’s suffering. People suffering from bipolar illnesses and their family members can receive great strength from their faith in Christ as well as their dependence on the Word of God.

Christian fellowship also provides much-needed support. The result is that patients can grow incredibly by learning to accept and face their suffering as part of living in a fallen, sinful world. They can also learn to help others as a result of out of their own suffering. And they can have lasting hope that the best of life is yet to come—life in eternity with our Heavenly Father. Faith, in other words, can help people live well with their disorder.

Hi Bipolar

Are you still with us? You can private message me if you want and I'll try to hook you up with someone from NAMI. They have some nice programs. I have friends who work for them and they do great things.

No need to go through this alone if you are.

My names michael if you need help let me or someone know OK?

drugs blind us from this world and let the Spiritual be known to us.not saying all people use it this way. but if you ever think about why pot is illegal theres just no good reason.people can even use it to get off other drugs.

things that have been drilled into our heads

gun nut

religious nut

no word for money nut

they bash people that want to protect themselves and others

or use religion as a basis of life and say their crazy.

but where are all the people helping the people that love money?

i know how it works, i raised one....
and i have seen him go from bliss to pissed in a matter of minutes,
seemingly out of no where
as an observer, it appears to be an attack on him, from somewhere, something
is indeed a life of challenges for all