1 2 4 Next
Topic: What we have to ask is....
Eljay's photo
Tue 07/10/07 09:59 PM
"what of the wild animals that kill and mame

are they not of creation

is not their actions evil"

*** Exactly - it is the action that is evil - not the animal itself. And in the animal kingdom (which draws no comparison to Human existance - for we function on free will, an animal on pure instinct) there is the concept of "thinning out the herd"

Eljay's photo
Tue 07/10/07 10:11 PM
"i will always argue the option of free will, because god is omniscient, he is the end he is the beginning he knows all in christianity. God knows the choices you're going to make before you make them! he is an all knowing god.. if he already knows the choices you'll make then how is it your choice, aren't you in reality just fulfilling a fate or a destiny thats been premapped?"

Sorority;

While it is true that God already knows the choices we will make before we make them, he does not alter the fact that the choice has been made. He may - however, effect the outcome - or even prevent the choice from being carried out. For instance, if I decide that I'm going to jump off of a building, and I enter an elivator to get to the top - He could quite easily kill the power, stranding me in the elevator. Here - the choice by me has been made - but an effect of God has changed it. Though we may have the gift of free will - we can do nothing outside of the will of God. Either he allows our choices - or prevents it, he does not make it for us. So, yes, predetemination is in effect (God already knowing the outcome) but the freedom of choice remains with us.

1 2 4 Next