Topic: We got our man but who gets the credit.
Lpdon's photo
Mon 05/02/11 11:18 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 05/02/11 11:18 PM

Noone is a hero in this incident. The US regime just offed one of their former employees, that's all. Good profit for the military industrial complex and propaganda for the war department, though.


It's been roven that Osama was NEVER affiliated with the CIA.

A variety of sources—CNN journalist Peter Bergen, Pakistani ISI Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, and CIA operatives involved in the Afghan program, such as Vincent Cannistraro—deny that the CIA or other American officials had contact with the foreign mujahideen or Bin Laden, let alone armed, trained, coached or indoctrinated them.

Bergen and others argue that there was no need to recruit foreigners unfamiliar with the local language, customs or lay of the land since there were a quarter of a million local Afghans willing to fight; that foreign mujahideen themselves had no need for American funds since they received several hundred million dollars a year from non-American, Muslim sources; that Americans could not have trained mujahideen because Pakistani officials would not allow more than a handful of them to operate in Pakistan and none in Afghanistan; and that the Afghan Arabs were almost invariably militant Islamists reflexively hostile to Westerners whether or not the Westerners were helping the Muslim Afghans.

According to Peter Bergen, known for conducting the first television interview with bin Laden in 1997, the idea that "the CIA funded Bin Laden or trained bin Laden ...[is] a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. ... Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. ... The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_qaeda#Alleged_CIA_involvement

TurboRams's photo
Tue 05/03/11 01:25 AM
Ur right let's put it this way the military should take 100% credit only thing politcally credit that can and should be take is greenlight to attack but other than that military those that went in and those that investigated for years tracking him down....

msharmony's photo
Tue 05/03/11 01:29 AM

Ur right let's put it this way the military should take 100% credit only thing politcally credit that can and should be take is greenlight to attack but other than that military those that went in and those that investigated for years tracking him down....




switch it up, had we had a leader who set on the info and didnt end in a capture,,wouldnt he be blamed?

I say the president and the 12 seals he tapped to do the job are the reason there is no more bin laden

no photo
Tue 05/03/11 05:59 AM


..they can have all the credit they want..i just want the reward...smile2

TJN's photo
Tue 05/03/11 06:34 AM
You have to give credit to the administration the put the policies in place to gather the info that led to the operation. Give credit to the administration that didn't change those policies. Give credit to the CIA and Navy for gathering the intel. This administration for giving the green light. But most credit goes to the CIA and Navy Seals who completed the mission with no American casualties.

metalwing's photo
Tue 05/03/11 07:01 AM

So who gets the credit. I want to see something in numbers.Somebody has to be the hero so who?

Note:Nobody is wrong I just want to see what the American People think.

Here is my idea of a fair distribution of credit.

Bush Administration-40
U.S. Intelligence - 5
Obama administration-30
Foreign Powers- 5
U.S. Military- 20

The Bush Administration may have had a lot of faults ,but im not a conspiracy theorist who thinks he was working with bin laden either. I can give George W. Bush credit where it is due. He put a large amount of human resources and military resources on finding Bin Laden. U.S. Intel and Home lance Security did their homework and was passed off to Obama when he took office. Good Job George

U.S. Intel. and Military are only as good as the person ordering them the Pres. Obama's Administration is the administration who caught Bin Laden. Thats a fact and the Administration can always have that on their record. Obama and his Administration pointed the finger and signed the papers that got the job done. Good Job Barrack

The Solders fought did all the hard work for the suits in Washington. Good Job Freedom fighters.

U.S. Intel messed up to many times for me to give them to much credit, but they did help so not to sound bias. Good job U.S. intel

Both George and Barrack used foreign Intel, organizations and troops to try and catch Bin Laden. The did help.
Thanks rest of the world.





A pretty fair assessment. All the resources and intel that led to the courier was done between 2003 and 2007 during the Bush administration and the "waterboarding" apparently had a lot to do with it. Obama gets no credit for this portion. I would subtract 20 points from Obama and give it to the military.

Bush Administration-40
U.S. Intelligence - 5
Obama administration-10
Foreign Powers- 5
U.S. Military- 40

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Tue 05/03/11 03:25 PM
The buck stops where the buck stops. Obama.

We assassinated Bin Laden.

I wouldn't be worried about his "Al qaeda" organization too much. They can't even get an underwear bomb to go off.

Worry about the Chinese. They are shooting down satellites and hacking google networks. They are dumping American dollars by spending them by buying large expensive corporations with dollars.

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 05/03/11 09:13 PM
Credit should go where the credit is due.

Osama bin Ladin...

For poking the sleeping giant.

the end result was inevitable...

No matter how long it took.


Lpdon's photo
Tue 05/03/11 09:51 PM


Ur right let's put it this way the military should take 100% credit only thing politcally credit that can and should be take is greenlight to attack but other than that military those that went in and those that investigated for years tracking him down....




switch it up, had we had a leader who set on the info and didnt end in a capture,,wouldnt he be blamed?

I say the president and the 12 seals he tapped to do the job are the reason there is no more bin laden


Ummmmmm Obama sat on the infor for months, and it was over 30 SEALS that he didn't tap, who made it through BUDs and progressed to the most elite special forces unit in the world.


Lpdon's photo
Tue 05/03/11 09:52 PM


So who gets the credit. I want to see something in numbers.Somebody has to be the hero so who?

Note:Nobody is wrong I just want to see what the American People think.

Here is my idea of a fair distribution of credit.

Bush Administration-40
U.S. Intelligence - 5
Obama administration-30
Foreign Powers- 5
U.S. Military- 20

The Bush Administration may have had a lot of faults ,but im not a conspiracy theorist who thinks he was working with bin laden either. I can give George W. Bush credit where it is due. He put a large amount of human resources and military resources on finding Bin Laden. U.S. Intel and Home lance Security did their homework and was passed off to Obama when he took office. Good Job George

U.S. Intel. and Military are only as good as the person ordering them the Pres. Obama's Administration is the administration who caught Bin Laden. Thats a fact and the Administration can always have that on their record. Obama and his Administration pointed the finger and signed the papers that got the job done. Good Job Barrack

The Solders fought did all the hard work for the suits in Washington. Good Job Freedom fighters.

U.S. Intel messed up to many times for me to give them to much credit, but they did help so not to sound bias. Good job U.S. intel

Both George and Barrack used foreign Intel, organizations and troops to try and catch Bin Laden. The did help.
Thanks rest of the world.





A pretty fair assessment. All the resources and intel that led to the courier was done between 2003 and 2007 during the Bush administration and the "waterboarding" apparently had a lot to do with it. Obama gets no credit for this portion. I would subtract 20 points from Obama and give it to the military.

Bush Administration-40
U.S. Intelligence - 5
Obama administration-10
Foreign Powers- 5
U.S. Military- 40



I'd cut the Obama by 5 and give it to the CIA and give the CIA 10 and Obama 5.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 05/03/11 09:53 PM
AND the people with Military experience put the team together, which Obama has none neither does Biden or Hitlery.

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Tue 05/03/11 10:32 PM
It's been roven that Osama was NEVER affiliated with the CIA.



You couldn't possibly prove anything of the sort. The CIA does not go around telling everyone what they are doing and whom they are affiliated with. They train people to over throw governments all the time, and have been doing it for years. Where have you been? Under a rock?

no photo
Wed 05/04/11 06:57 AM
Things don't seem to be working out very well for Obama-haters. Here's an article on the latest CBS poll about what is happening with Obama's job approval.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/04/us-binladen-usa-polls-idUSTRE7433UI20110504

Those 33%ers are having a bad day.

metalwing's photo
Wed 05/04/11 07:16 AM

Things don't seem to be working out very well for Obama-haters. Here's an article on the latest CBS poll about what is happening with Obama's job approval.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/04/us-binladen-usa-polls-idUSTRE7433UI20110504

Those 33%ers are having a bad day.


"A New York Times/CBS News poll showed the bump in Obama's performance rating -- which it warned could be short-lived -- but also found that more than six in 10 Americans believed the threat of extremist attacks against the United States was likely to increase."

You must have missed the "short lived" part.

TxsGal3333's photo
Wed 05/04/11 07:27 AM
Wow why would any less then 99% go to the Military :thumbsup: only 1% should go to those that finally said go ahead and do your thing!!!!!


no photo
Wed 05/04/11 07:32 AM
You must have missed the "short lived" part.
No, I read the entire article. Everybody who is rational expects that, as concerns return to jobs and the economy, Obama's ratings will drop. The point is that President Obama can chalk the OBL issue up as a win in his column. Sorry about that.

TJN's photo
Wed 05/04/11 10:13 AM
So the recipient of the Nobel peace prize gets credit for authorizing the murder of a human being hmmmmm.

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Wed 05/04/11 10:15 AM
So the recipient of the Nobel peace prize gets credit for authorizing the murder of a human being
Looks that way. Afraid you're going to have to learn to live with that.

TJN's photo
Wed 05/04/11 10:26 AM

So the recipient of the Nobel peace prize gets credit for authorizing the murder of a human being
Looks that way. Afraid you're going to have to learn to live with that.

Don't be afraid. It doesn't bother me.

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Thu 05/05/11 04:21 AM