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Wed 04/27/11 03:29 PM
At his press conference on Wednesday, President Obama scolded the media for focusing on his birth certificate instead of more important issues.

He started the conference by calling out NBC's Chuck Todd directly.

"I can't get the networks to break in on all kinds of other discussions," he said. "I was just back there listening to Chuck—he was saying, it’s amazing that he’s not going to be talking about national security. I would not have the networks breaking in if I was talking about that, Chuck, and you know it."

He then said that part of the reason that he wanted to release the birth certificate was because he was seeing coverage of the issue dominate the media, rather than discussion of the federal budget or other issues.

While the issue has certainly been heavily covered, the Pew Research Center pointed out that discussion of the birther issue made up for just 4 percent of the news coverage during the period Obama cited in his address. However, Donald Trump was the second most covered newsmaker last week, and his recent media appearances have been almost exclusively related to birther issues.



"I’m speaking to the vast majority of the American people, as well as to the press," Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-scolds-media-birthers_n_854292.html?icid=main%7Chp-desktop%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk1%7C211150

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Wed 04/27/11 04:04 PM
Yes he needed to put a stop to this sillyness, and get on to things that were more important that are going on in this country. Like going on Oprah and then attending 3 fundraisers right after the press conference.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/27/11 04:06 PM
nobody read the article, either... it was the same thing they posted 4 years ago, a certificate of live birth, not a birth certificate...

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 04/27/11 04:57 PM
As long as the viewing public appear to prefere gossip to news...

the news services will continue to produce gossip instead of news.


Atlantis75's photo
Wed 04/27/11 06:57 PM

As long as the viewing public appear to prefere gossip to news...

the news services will continue to produce gossip instead of news.




The public is addicted to dramas and soap operas. So everything has become drama and soap opera.

GG2's photo
Wed 04/27/11 07:53 PM
It took Donald Trump to get the long-form birth certificate shown LOL. Idiot Obama must be worried about competition come the elections. Of course, that was about the only task Obama is capable of doing anyways. No biggie. He's still a closet Muslim.

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Wed 04/27/11 07:56 PM
Edited by greeneyeman on Wed 04/27/11 07:58 PM
Baraka Hussein Obama is born in Hawaii. Now can we get on with it! lol

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Wed 04/27/11 07:59 PM
It took Donald Trump to get the long-form birth certificate shown LOL. Idiot Obama

GG! It's good to see you back. I can't think of anybody I would rather butt heads with!

Dragoness's photo
Wed 04/27/11 09:17 PM
Hell Trump is so smart he baited someone into proving he was a liar...rofl

It takes real genius to do that...lol

I SURE HOPE HE RUNS FOR PRESIDENT, NOONE WITH A BRAIN WILL VOTE FOR HIM. And it will ensure another four years of Obama since Obama is a glutton for punishment

Dragoness's photo
Wed 04/27/11 09:19 PM

nobody read the article, either... it was the same thing they posted 4 years ago, a certificate of live birth, not a birth certificate...


You are joking right?

The certificate he provided looks almost exactly like mine and it states it is a certificate of live birth and I was born here in Colorado in 1980....lol

Dragoness's photo
Wed 04/27/11 09:21 PM
Okay 1970...lol

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/27/11 09:49 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Wed 04/27/11 09:55 PM


nobody read the article, either... it was the same thing they posted 4 years ago, a certificate of live birth, not a birth certificate...


You are joking right?

The certificate he provided looks almost exactly like mine and it states it is a certificate of live birth and I was born here in Colorado in 1980....lol


is yours a birth certificate or a certificate of live birth?

never mind, i just read what the difference is...

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/27/11 09:59 PM
Hawaiian legal statute:

"[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]"

Everybody get that?

As long as an adult can walk into Hawaii's version of the Department of Records and provide proof that they are a legal resident of Hawaii, the document is issued.

The child, on the other hand, could have been born in Hawaii, Kenya, or a back-alley in Budapest.

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/28/11 12:18 AM

Hawaiian legal statute:

"[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]"

Everybody get that?

As long as an adult can walk into Hawaii's version of the Department of Records and provide proof that they are a legal resident of Hawaii, the document is issued.

The child, on the other hand, could have been born in Hawaii, Kenya, or a back-alley in Budapest.



any known cases of such application being applied for and approved and issued within FOUR Days of birth?

a revised certificate would still have an issuance date, it would not likely be within a week of birth. let alone four days

in any case, the long form has been released complete with the hospital name, Im sure THAT cant be fabricated to reflect mere residency

mylifetoday's photo
Thu 04/28/11 12:31 AM

As long as the viewing public appear to prefere gossip to news...

the news services will continue to produce gossip instead of news.




We live in a Sitcom culture.

Present the issue, discuss it and solve it in half an hour. Any longer than that and you start loosing people...

for a very long time they wouldn't make movies over 2 hours long, usually edited to 90 minutes because, "People won't sit that long for a movie."

So, the only thing that matters is what people are talking about right now.

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Thu 04/28/11 01:37 AM
Regardless of where he was born he will only be in office two more years and then HOPEfully we can get some CHANGE with somebody competent in there to turn the country around.

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/28/11 02:31 AM

Regardless of where he was born he will only be in office two more years and then HOPEfully we can get some CHANGE with somebody competent in there to turn the country around.



then hope trump doesnt run,,,,


and read a bit more about what a president can do,, no one man is gonna change it without the rest of the government (ie congress)

boi69's photo
Thu 04/28/11 08:24 AM

At his press conference on Wednesday, President Obama scolded the media for focusing on his birth certificate instead of more important issues.

He started the conference by calling out NBC's Chuck Todd directly.

"I can't get the networks to break in on all kinds of other discussions," he said. "I was just back there listening to Chuck—he was saying, it’s amazing that he’s not going to be talking about national security. I would not have the networks breaking in if I was talking about that, Chuck, and you know it."

He then said that part of the reason that he wanted to release the birth certificate was because he was seeing coverage of the issue dominate the media, rather than discussion of the federal budget or other issues.

While the issue has certainly been heavily covered, the Pew Research Center pointed out that discussion of the birther issue made up for just 4 percent of the news coverage during the period Obama cited in his address. However, Donald Trump was the second most covered newsmaker last week, and his recent media appearances have been almost exclusively related to birther issues.



"I’m speaking to the vast majority of the American people, as well as to the press," Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-scolds-media-birthers_n_854292.html?icid=main%7Chp-desktop%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk1%7C211150


As A Journalist Major let me put this into better perspective for everyone. The President knew the birth-er deal was a bunch of media hype. My fellow journalist get bored and run out of news so every couple months when some radicals bring it back up they cover The birth-er issue. The President was just trying to be the bigger man and let it die. Donald Trump, However , got so many people in a frenzy about the issue The president had to shut him up before the political turmoil.

Honestly Donald Trump lucky he is not getting sued. By technical means Donald Trump could have been charged with slander or Libel. That wont happen im just saying don't take this guys political advice.

boi69's photo
Thu 04/28/11 08:27 AM

nobody read the article, either... it was the same thing they posted 4 years ago, a certificate of live birth, not a birth certificate...


By the way that is simply not true. If you have a document certified saying you where born in the U.S.A. Then that is your birth certificate your getting to caught up in the name.

boi69's photo
Thu 04/28/11 08:38 AM

Hawaiian legal statute:

"[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]"

Everybody get that?

As long as an adult can walk into Hawaii's version of the Department of Records and provide proof that they are a legal resident of Hawaii, the document is issued.

The child, on the other hand, could have been born in Hawaii, Kenya, or a back-alley in Budapest.


Ok now that is true but only for immigrants. Who have to take a test to get the certificate and still On the certificate it will say that this person is an American Citizen that was born in a different country. Our Nations President certificate of live birth does not say that. It says under Place of birth in Big Black Letters Honolulu. Stop trying to argue with certified government documents your not going to win.

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