Topic: Should women pay their own way on a date?
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Tue 04/26/11 03:40 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 04/26/11 03:41 PM
It looks like you have hair and beard to me.:tongue:

Its the one that shows you face the best. It shows your charming good looks.... and a cat. bigsmile

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Tue 04/26/11 03:44 PM

It looks like you have hair and beard to me.:tongue:
that one with my one cat was like a year and a half ago, the one that's my main profile pic was right before the OSU vs Michigan game this past season. I've been rocking the beard for about 7 months now, and grew my hair back to where it was before I went with the buzz cut, lol

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Tue 04/26/11 03:53 PM


It looks like you have hair and beard to me.:tongue:
that one with my one cat was like a year and a half ago, the one that's my main profile pic was right before the OSU vs Michigan game this past season. I've been rocking the beard for about 7 months now, and grew my hair back to where it was before I went with the buzz cut, lol


You should take a good close up with your new hair. I like closeups.

ohiostate13's photo
Tue 04/26/11 03:57 PM
I have thought of doing that, but my webcam is terrible and I haven't quite got the hang of the camera on my new Droid X phone.

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Tue 04/26/11 03:59 PM

I have thought of doing that, but my webcam is terrible and I haven't quite got the hang of the camera on my new Droid X phone.


you can enlist the help of someone else... or go to glamor shots LOL

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Tue 04/26/11 06:46 PM
I want to thank everyone for their incite and suggestions. I think I am prepared for the situation.

If a man I know asks me out and I can't really afford to pay my half of the date, I might say, "No thanks, I can't afford it right now."

If he says "I will pay for it." I will say "Okay as long as you don't expect me to sleep with you afterwards."

That will cost extra. laugh laugh laugh laugh


s1owhand's photo
Tue 04/26/11 06:51 PM
unless they are really illecebrous

Atlantis75's photo
Tue 04/26/11 06:57 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Tue 04/26/11 07:00 PM

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If he says "I will pay for it." I will say "Okay as long as you don't expect me to sleep with you afterwards."

That will cost extra. laugh laugh laugh laugh




there should be no ultimatums of any kinds ever made on any date.

I had dates, which ended in various ways. Also avoid this whole crap about stupid made up garbage rules of no sleeping together on first dates. There are some times, when the chemistry works out so well, that neither can resist each other. Other times, it works out different. You'll know it in the first 10-15 minutes, but giving a chance and being very understanding is the foundation. There is no plan, that's the whole point. The whole thing will go whatever way. Having expectations before the date is the first step for a ruined date.

I have been on dates, where I was asked out and she paid for everything, because she said, "you are my guest tonight". I didn't oppose.

EasternSquirrel's photo
Wed 04/27/11 07:00 AM

If I am paying for a sitter, it would be nice for a man to pay for my dinner....frankly I am getting tired of going out to eat on dates though. Men want skinny girls....and yet they continue to feed us...let's go kayaking it so much more fun...and it's only $10....

Now you're talking! :thumbsup:

EasternSquirrel's photo
Wed 04/27/11 07:03 AM

I have thought of doing that, but my webcam is terrible and I haven't quite got the hang of the camera on my new Droid X phone.


Try using a regular 35mm or digital, either with a built in
10 second timer .... and a tripod. Works wonders.
I'd recommend the 35mm though since it renders a much higher resolution when run though the digital photo editor.

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Wed 04/27/11 09:52 AM


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If he says "I will pay for it." I will say "Okay as long as you don't expect me to sleep with you afterwards."

That will cost extra. laugh laugh laugh laugh




there should be no ultimatums of any kinds ever made on any date.

I had dates, which ended in various ways. Also avoid this whole crap about stupid made up garbage rules of no sleeping together on first dates. There are some times, when the chemistry works out so well, that neither can resist each other. Other times, it works out different. You'll know it in the first 10-15 minutes, but giving a chance and being very understanding is the foundation. There is no plan, that's the whole point. The whole thing will go whatever way. Having expectations before the date is the first step for a ruined date.

I have been on dates, where I was asked out and she paid for everything, because she said, "you are my guest tonight". I didn't oppose.



I totally agree with what you said above about the chemistry. With the right chemistry, I usually know withing the first 10-15 minutes. If the chemistry is there, the only thing that can mess things up is if one person opens their mouth and reveals something about them self that changes your mind. Then you have to ignore the chemistry and run real fast. I say run real fast because chemistry can sometimes get you in a lot of trouble. LOL


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Wed 04/27/11 12:21 PM
A gentleman who asks me out and does not pay is no gentleman; end of story.

A gentleman who accepts my invitation and then insists on paying is no gentleman; end of story.

In the same vein a lady who consistently accepts invitations without returning invitations with in her means is no lady and the gentleman is maybe a gentleman but he is also a fool.

I tend not to date men who do not expect at least a minimum of fair treatment from early on in the relationship.

Dateing is a discovery of character and building a relationship but never a guarantee of a relationship.

Or the perks of a matured relationship such as shared economic burdens, supportive emotional bonds, or sex.


PacificStar48's photo
Wed 04/27/11 12:37 PM

If the women insists, then I would go "dutch" (50/50).

Regarding sex on first date, I think a better question would be "do you want to date someone who would expect that?". My opinion is that a gentleman wouldn't, so personally that wouldn't be my intention on a first date ... although have left it to discretion whether I let it happen ;)


While I generally know with in the first 30 seconds if I am sexually attracted to someone and the first minutes wheather they would be sexually compatiable (two distinctly different criteria) I have the self control to wait until the relationship has proved itself desireable and lasting before I even consider that kind of shareing.

Any man so lacking in similiar self control looses whatever attraction they might have initially. I don't want something that has been passed around like a basket of chips at a party.

Good sex, even great sex, is not rocket science but it does take a degree of familiarity, timing, self respect, and consideration and I really don't need mediocre or bad sex.

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Wed 04/27/11 01:34 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 04/27/11 01:34 PM


If the women insists, then I would go "dutch" (50/50).

Regarding sex on first date, I think a better question would be "do you want to date someone who would expect that?". My opinion is that a gentleman wouldn't, so personally that wouldn't be my intention on a first date ... although have left it to discretion whether I let it happen ;)


While I generally know with in the first 30 seconds if I am sexually attracted to someone and the first minutes wheather they would be sexually compatiable (two distinctly different criteria) I have the self control to wait until the relationship has proved itself desireable and lasting before I even consider that kind of shareing.

Any man so lacking in similiar self control looses whatever attraction they might have initially. I don't want something that has been passed around like a basket of chips at a party.

Good sex, even great sex, is not rocket science but it does take a degree of familiarity, timing, self respect, and consideration and I really don't need mediocre or bad sex.


PacificStar48

You are an extremely wise lady! flowerforyou

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Wed 04/27/11 01:55 PM


I have thought of doing that, but my webcam is terrible and I haven't quite got the hang of the camera on my new Droid X phone.


Try using a regular 35mm or digital, either with a built in
10 second timer .... and a tripod. Works wonders.
I'd recommend the 35mm though since it renders a much higher resolution when run though the digital photo editor.
I'm not really wanting to get a camera yet, but when I do I want a digital with at least 12 mega pixel or higher. My Droid X phone has a 8 mega pixel camera with mechanical shutter. It takes good pics, I got some good ones this past saturday when I went to the Ohio State spring game. I don't have the hang of taking self pics, and/or I'm not that camera friendly or something, lol

PacificStar48's photo
Wed 04/27/11 04:23 PM
Thanks for the compliment.

What I think would be very useful is for the men who don't see it necessary to jump bones on the first date or early in a relationship to step up and say so and despell the myth that all men think or act this way.

It has gotten where the popular media view is the only guys that don't are either incapable, don't want to because of other preferences, or too afraid to rathter than just smart enough to take their time.

I do think the pressure to be sexual active discourages as many desireable men to date, at least more than very casually, as it does women. Men are not stupid about the risks of premarital sex. Especially older ones that have seen friends end up with unwanted pregnancies, health issues, and even bogus sex related social problems.

The number of women who go on line and blabber their private lives makes a guy pretty "gun" shy.

navygirl's photo
Wed 04/27/11 06:32 PM

A gentleman who asks me out and does not pay is no gentleman; end of story.

A gentleman who accepts my invitation and then insists on paying is no gentleman; end of story.

In the same vein a lady who consistently accepts invitations without returning invitations with in her means is no lady and the gentleman is maybe a gentleman but he is also a fool.

I tend not to date men who do not expect at least a minimum of fair treatment from early on in the relationship.

Dateing is a discovery of character and building a relationship but never a guarantee of a relationship.

Or the perks of a matured relationship such as shared economic burdens, supportive emotional bonds, or sex.




I like your perspective on this. :thumbsup:

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Wed 04/27/11 06:46 PM
Allow me to interject a bit of my reality here...

I got no problem in paying for a date but, in return, I demand the faint glimmer of hope that I MIGHT get laid for my company, personality, big penis, and several hours of physical labor to afford taking her out to a dinner, drinks and dancing....

If the answer is an absolute "No" before the date begins....then that woman/person is a user who has just totally wasted my time, attentions and the hours that I have worked...for a shot at nothing.

A date is a date and we all WILL pay a price in the end for it...

You can wrap morality angles around it all you like.....

Getting someone to treat you to a night out and never be willing to consider some sex is just flat out using people....

(I know, sounds just as dirty to think you gotta put out cause a guy blew a few bucks on you....it's a "no win" scenario)

Simonedemidova's photo
Thu 04/28/11 02:06 PM
WOW KRUPA-

There is no WAY I am SLEEPING with a guy after a dinner date....If you are trying to impress a lady for a second date, that is one thing, but all for just one thing to get laid, that is hideous.

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Thu 04/28/11 02:49 PM


I am a man, at least the last time I checked.

I will NOT have a woman pay for a date. Even when my moonie piece was hanging out at the back of my pants through a broken patch, I never allowed a woman to pay.

This has changed. I had a date four years ago and we went on a coffee date. She resented that I treated her, and that I INSISTED that I treat her. She ditched me, for this or for other reasons, who knows, who cares.

But I learned the hard way to be reasonable about being chivalrious.

If the woman has a request, I must honour that, no matter what. If she says she would like to pay half or pay her way or contribute quarter of the bill or even a dime towards the bill, I think I am supposed to put up a mild resistance, to ensure she's still in command of her faculties, and then let it melt.

Do I expect sex for my three dollar coffee dates, that I so chivalriously paid for? You are kidding. Of course not. If I want sex for money, there are less risky and more surefire ways of doing that than paying for a meal for someone.

Sex in my books is something that is a function of mutual attraction and trust. If I have to substitute trust or my attractiveness with money, or ameliorate it with a cup of coffee, then the whole thing is screwed.


You sound like the kind of date I am used to having. The man pays, but he shouldn't expect sex for that $10.00 meal or a few drinks.

But there seem to be men who expect sex on the first date. That sort of scares me from the idea of dating again, or at least has me considering going dutch. But I don't want to insult a guy, and I don't want to feel I owe him either. I may not want a second date where I would pay.

I think if I really like a man I would be more than happy to pay for my half of the expenses of dating if I had the money and could afford it. If not, I'm sure we could find something to do that did not cost anything.

I think there are lots of women who might want sex on the first date these days. I bet that could be hard on a man if he is not into doing that. It is more difficult for them to say no. They don't have enough practice. LOL




Oops... you got me wrong. I DO expect sex. Right after the McDonald meal. But only if she wants it too, better still, if she instigates it.

For your information: that never happens.

A Mac meal for two is $20. 1 hungry person, + 2 Big Macs = 1 full person - $9.50, not including tips.

So I decided a year ago to pay tips in restaurants with table service that is double the meal price. $10 meal = $20 payment. $25 meal = $50 pay.

I don't mind doing this. And watching the reaction of the waitresses.

30% of waitresses categorically refuse to take the money. It takes me some begging and explaining for them to take the tip.

40% take the tip, and become embarrassed: they feel they are now obliged to stick at my table and make small talk. I made friends with one such waitress, she is -- no bull -- from Australia. A very nice girl.

The rest of the 30% take the tip, as if it were the most natural thing in the world to do.

I do tip this way especially in restaurants where the service is bad or the food is terrible. I do it, then they thank me, and ask me how the meal was, and I extoll the porblems with the meal with a big, beaming smile on my face. I tell them how to improve the service or the meal. All in smiles. This happened, among other places, in a Viet Namese restaurant, and the waitress lost all her English-language skills. I asked her to please buy chicken wholesale at a place which does not leave the joints on each frigging piece of deboned meat. I did not use a swear word, just smiled.

I do tip like this coz I figure if I were on a date, I would pay this much easily, and I actually have more fun alone than with some stupid woman. No, I am not arrogant, but the only type of person to spend a meal with me, man or woman (or child) is an imbecile or a madman or a crazy chick.