God is NOT interested in RELIGION!!!!!!!

God is interested in RELATIONSHIP !!!!

WITH His Creation!!!!

Morning song I don't believe you can know what God is interested in.
I think it would be more honest if you stated what YOU were interested in.

You are interested in your relationship with God.

You can truly only speak from your point of view. When you make statements like the above you sound like you are trying to speak for God. No one needs to speak for God to others. Everyone can have their own personal relationship with God.

AMEN

No one can know what God is interested in.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <----------did that help?

Firstly, to take the micky out of people really isnt very nice, also if you were in a relationship with God you would know the answer.
I pray you get to to know him and how amazing having him in your life is.
God bless

Well, if we assume that your proclamations here are true, then Christianity is meaningless because Christianity is a RELIGION.

And therefore anyone who desires a relationship with God can indeed have such a relationship independent of RELIGION.

Which means that even atheists can have a relationship with "God" in there own way. They may not even think of it in terms of the actual word "God".

But clearly if we accept you premise that God is NOT interested in RELIGION. Then Wiccans, and Buddhists, and Hindus, and Taoists, and every "religion" under the sun can be used to have a RELATIONSHIP with God.

Because it's your premise that God is NOT interested in RELIGION.

I totally agree with that!

So a believe in Jesus is totally unimportant because the stories of Jesus belong to RELIGIONS, and not even all religions that lay claim to him have the same story to tell.

I just read the following today:

"The Quran, where Jesus is called Messiah — the Messenger, maintains that Christ was returned to God alive and not crucified."

So this RELIGION does not even recognize the crucifixion of Jesus which Christians demand is CENTRAL to "salvation".

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In fact, come to think of it, based on what you've posted MorningSong, that God is only interested in having a RELATIONSHIP with people, then perhaps you do not see such a dire need to be placed on the concept of "salvation"?

Since having a relationship with "God" would surely automatically suffice as "salvation".

And since you demand that God doesn't care about RELIGION, then clearly God doesn't care if people view Her as a Moon Goddess, or whatever archetypal form that spiritually calls to them.

I have no problem with any of that.

But in another thread you seemed to be proselytizing Jesus as the "savior" real hard. That would be RELIGION MorningSong.

Catmandoo_1,




I just wanted to point out that using a large amount of exclamation points does not make a statement any more believable.

I realize she is very excited, but she portends to speak for God.

I can't 'take anything out' of anyone, especially if I don't even know what you are talking about.

So what is a micky?

Also, I don't accept your authority to to make any judgement of me regarding my relationship with source.

Next, any prayer regarding how I chose to live my life and who I 'get to know' is considered to be witchcraft, and an invasion of my personal space.

You don't have my permission to pray in my behalf or announce that you are praying in behalf.

To claim to know the mind of God is to claim to be God.

So anyone who claims to know the mind of God deserves to have the "micky" taken out of them. They're basically committing blaspheme.

It's far better to just say that you enjoy your FAITH in God, and perhaps suggest to other people that they should try FAITH as well.

Perhaps they already have FAITH in God via a totally different perspective and "religion".

Then why argue with them?

Let everyone have their own FAITH.

No one is trying to take your FAITH away from you. But they might give you a hassle if you start trying to ram your FAITH down their throats.

Thanks, I wasnt aware I was arguing, trying to Ram anything down anyones throat or trying to take anyone's FAITH away, that was certainly not my intention and I stand corrected, spologies if I have caused any offense to anyone.

'Micky' is short for Micheal, taking the Micheal out of someone, which is a nicer way of saying 'Taking the Piss' out of someone, mugging them off etc etc

I think i'll leave you all do it, its been nice chatting, but I dont think this is for me.

Truly.

In my spiritual practices I would never attempt to cast a spell on another person without their permission. Even if I considered it to be a "good spell". That would still be encroachment on their free will if I did not have their permission and consent first.

They have a "Christian Forum" on this site. Perhaps you will enjoy the conversations there?

http://mingle2.com/forum/forum/188

I don't think anyone is trying to take your faith away from you.

But telling someone that you know nothing about that you'll "pray" for them is a bit of an insult because you're suggesting that there is something wrong with them that needs to be changed.

Go over and tell the Christians that you'll pray for them!

They all be excited about that and embrace it with open arms!

Catmandoo_1,

I'm sorry if I offended you. I had never heard of "micky" before. Perhaps that's an English term?

I do have a great relationship with source (God) and perhaps you are right, I was not being very "nice" to Morningsong.

She is a very spirit filled person.

Again, please accept my apologies, I guess I misunderstood this forum and subsequent conversations. Like I said my intention was not to insult or upset anyone here, I was just merely joining in with a conversation my intentions were certianly not to uspet anyone.

Thanks

I agree that MorningSong, and Catmandoo, both seem like very nice well-intended people.

However, in the case of MorningSong in particular she doesn't appear to be very consistent.

On the one hand she says things like:


God is NOT interested in RELIGION!!!!!!!


But in other threads, she's constantly pushing the idea that Jesus is "The Christ", the LORD and the only Savior.

That's RELIGION.

And she constantly implies that if a person isn't recognizing Jesus as "The Christ" and if they haven't accept HIM as their "Lord" and "Savior" then they don't have a relationship with God.

So from our perspective her claim that:

God is NOT interested in RELIGION!!!!!!!


Doesn't match up with her demands that "Jesus is the only way to God" which is A RELIGION!

So there's a major flaw in her approach to things here.

On the one hand she's trying to claim that God doesn't care about religion, and on the other hand she's demanding that only one RELIGION is the "Word of God".

So it just appears to be two-faced and hypocritical from our perspective. Even though we realize that in the end she means well.

But in the end she's still PUSHING RELIGION! Whether she realizes it or not. And because of her claims that "Jesus is the only God", she's automatically renouncing all other RELIGIONS.

So maybe God doesn't care about RELIGION.

But MorningSong certainly DOES!

Hi, yes its an English term, I forget there can sometime be a language barrier, and no you havent offended me so please dont worry, it can be difficult when its all just in written form and nothing else (ie body language or tone) cant it.

I have absolute confidence that you are a wonderful sincere compassionate and loving person who wants nothing more than for everyone to be happy and loved.

I don't doubt that for one second.

I think you just need to realize that it can be extremely offensive to other people when it is implied that their spirituality is devoid of meaning if they aren't viewing the supreme creator of life in the same way that you do.

I can't speak for Jeannie, but I feel confident that you DO have a great relationship with the divine source of all that exists and the "He" does heal you.

I don't doubt that for one second.

But just the same I had to put the term "He" in quotes because that's your view of the divine source of life. I prefer to see the divine source as having both qualities of yin and yang (feminine and masculine). And for this reason I view the divine source of life quite differently from you I'm sure.

That doesn't mean that you're view is wrong.

But neither does it mean that my view is wrong.

We simple see the divine source of life in totally different ways.

I'm also not concerned about trying to convince atheists that they should have a relationship with the divine source of life, because I'm sure that they do even if they aren't aware of it.

I'm glad that you are happy with your spirituality.

That's GREAT!

And I have absolutely no desire to change any of that.

I have actually apologised twice, this will be the 3rd time, not much more I can say.

Catmandoo_1,

You have nothing to apologize for.


(I was "picking on" morningsong. I know that her faith is so strong that no one could put even a small dent in it.) She is one of the most spirit filled people on this club.

Abra calls her "a designer Christian"

I think she has her own inner scripture from her inner being in addition to her traditional religious beliefs.

Truly. That's basically what I just said yet she seemed to feel that she needed to apologize again.

I don't understand.

Abra, seriously? You don't understand? I will tell you then.... it was your lecture:



And you always act so innocent.

Okay now I will give you a little lecture (if you don't mind the example.)

<lecture example>

Abra, I think you need to realize that some of the ways you express your views can be extremely offensive to other people. People hold their beliefs as sacred and your disgruntled attitude with Christianity comes off as very nasty at times.

<end of lecture>

Having said that, I confess that I (some of my other personalities) can also be very offensive and antagonizing. Shame on them.

I take full responsibility, and I will try to change and be a nicer person.