Topic: You'll be sorry when Jesus gets back...
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Mon 03/28/11 08:02 PM
Since the bible is a book of fables there will not be a return of Jesus as written.

Now as to Love it never left this planet. So no need to return either.

Only the believers need worry until they die of this fabled return.

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Mon 03/28/11 08:20 PM
HEY! Its Jesus and I am back! SO who is feeling sorry now?


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Tue 03/29/11 10:42 AM
Andy, that picture does look like you...

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Tue 03/29/11 11:07 AM

Since the bible is a book of fables there will not be a return of Jesus as written.

Now as to Love it never left this planet. So no need to return either.

Only the believers need worry until they die of this fabled return.


Why would believers "worry" about it?

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Tue 03/29/11 06:22 PM


Since the bible is a book of fables there will not be a return of Jesus as written.

Now as to Love it never left this planet. So no need to return either.

Only the believers need worry until they die of this fabled return.


Why would believers "worry" about it?



Seriously????


If you think you're perfect, then no worries, I myself, have problems with my own "honesty"...



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Wed 03/30/11 07:03 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/30/11 07:04 AM
Inner scripture:

Jeaniebean 05:19

Verily verily I say unto you, To be perfect is to be complete. How can we not be complete if we are complete in love? How can we not be complete if our heart is full of love?

flowers smitten





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Wed 03/30/11 07:55 AM
"You can look at it that way if you want. I don't see it that way. Some people feel that their life IS their family. So they have not given up anything. They have just what they wanted."

But here is the thing. When you put God first in your life, you have better relationships with the members of your family.

God is our source. When we are hooked up to Him, He is hooked up to us, and our lives are easier, better, and more fulfilling.

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Wed 03/30/11 08:17 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/30/11 08:18 AM
Freakyshiki, putting God first means putting love first in your life, so of course when you can give and receive love and feel love you will have better relationships.

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Wed 03/30/11 10:02 AM

Freakyshiki, putting God first means putting love first in your life, so of course when you can give and receive love and feel love you will have better relationships.


But God is also evil and likewise also hate. Why is it if we are children of God why we are not allowed to grow to be like God? Why are people so scared of the idea of becoming something greater than what they were before?

A flaw of the Christian Philosophy is that God is only one thing, love. If god created everything god likewise had to create a wrong choice for us to have a right choice to make.

Man is innately evil. I could care less how "good" a person pretends to be. Inside a demon hides in all of us. I got a good look at mine. I didn't like him but he is the other side of my coin so I accepted his presence. Now I personally feel whole in the sense I am not constantly grappling with myself. Sometimes the right decision is the wrong thing. Sometimes the best way to handle conflict is to walk away. There are times you can't, then you have to fight or die. I am not about to lay down and die.

So I can safely say this, I am good and evil and if God does not like that well God can felicitate me! I am a servant of balance! Not a bitche of good or a minion of evil! I am in the Gray!

If I do meet God though he had better be buying the beer!

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Wed 03/30/11 10:19 AM
"But God is also evil and likewise also hate."

Nope, that is Satan.

"Why is it if we are children of God why we are not allowed to grow to be like God? Why are people so scared of the idea of becoming something greater than what they were before?"

That is how Satan tempted Adam and Eve. Thanks for showing that this account is more than a story.

"Man is innately evil."

Man is sinful, not evil, because we separated from God. It seems like you have issues with yourself. Some of us overcome our sinful tendencies. Others do not.

I will pray for you.


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Wed 03/30/11 11:58 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/30/11 12:01 PM
AndyBgood Why do you think or believe that man in "innately" evil?

And how do you define "evil?" What do you think "evil" means?

I believe that if you fill yourself with love there is no room for hate or "demons."

Humans are blessed with the ability to have compassion and love and a huge variety of other emotions. That is the inner spark that I call God.

It is the creative spark.




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Wed 03/30/11 12:15 PM

AndyBgood Why do you think or believe that man in "innately" evil?

And how do you define "evil?" What do you think "evil" means?

I believe that if you fill yourself with love there is no room for hate or "demons."

Humans are blessed with the ability to have compassion and love and a huge variety of other emotions. That is the inner spark that I call God.

It is the creative spark.






Generally children are born innately evil. When A child is playing with their toys. They tend to usually be destructive with their imagination. Not ALWAYS, but as a general rule this is true. That is why kids are clumsy and knock things over. They aren't thinking of others and or what they are doing to ensure not harming/hurting another. Children steal things, even if it's just as simple as a cookie. They see it, they want it, they take it.

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Wed 03/30/11 12:23 PM


AndyBgood Why do you think or believe that man in "innately" evil?

And how do you define "evil?" What do you think "evil" means?

I believe that if you fill yourself with love there is no room for hate or "demons."

Humans are blessed with the ability to have compassion and love and a huge variety of other emotions. That is the inner spark that I call God.

It is the creative spark.






Generally children are born innately evil. When A child is playing with their toys. They tend to usually be destructive with their imagination. Not ALWAYS, but as a general rule this is true. That is why kids are clumsy and knock things over. They aren't thinking of others and or what they are doing to ensure not harming/hurting another. Children steal things, even if it's just as simple as a cookie. They see it, they want it, they take it.


Actually that is not true. What they call that is "the ID." They call that innocence. Not "evil." They don't know the concept of stealing.

Anyway I was asking Andy...

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Wed 03/30/11 12:37 PM



AndyBgood Why do you think or believe that man in "innately" evil?

And how do you define "evil?" What do you think "evil" means?

I believe that if you fill yourself with love there is no room for hate or "demons."

Humans are blessed with the ability to have compassion and love and a huge variety of other emotions. That is the inner spark that I call God.

It is the creative spark.






Generally children are born innately evil. When A child is playing with their toys. They tend to usually be destructive with their imagination. Not ALWAYS, but as a general rule this is true. That is why kids are clumsy and knock things over. They aren't thinking of others and or what they are doing to ensure not harming/hurting another. Children steal things, even if it's just as simple as a cookie. They see it, they want it, they take it.


Actually that is not true. What they call that is "the ID." They call that innocence. Not "evil." They don't know the concept of stealing.

Anyway I was asking Andy...


Doesn't matter if one knows what they are doing is evil or not. The fact still remains what one is doing is evil. The "I don't know better" doesn't work. They may receive forgiveness easier, but nevertheless they did something "evil". ALL actions come from the heart.

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Wed 03/30/11 12:41 PM




AndyBgood Why do you think or believe that man in "innately" evil?

And how do you define "evil?" What do you think "evil" means?

I believe that if you fill yourself with love there is no room for hate or "demons."

Humans are blessed with the ability to have compassion and love and a huge variety of other emotions. That is the inner spark that I call God.

It is the creative spark.






Generally children are born innately evil. When A child is playing with their toys. They tend to usually be destructive with their imagination. Not ALWAYS, but as a general rule this is true. That is why kids are clumsy and knock things over. They aren't thinking of others and or what they are doing to ensure not harming/hurting another. Children steal things, even if it's just as simple as a cookie. They see it, they want it, they take it.


Actually that is not true. What they call that is "the ID." They call that innocence. Not "evil." They don't know the concept of stealing.

Anyway I was asking Andy...


Doesn't matter if one knows what they are doing is evil or not. The fact still remains what one is doing is evil. The "I don't know better" doesn't work. They may receive forgiveness easier, but nevertheless they did something "evil". ALL actions come from the heart.


Okay Cowboy... if babies are "evil" then the Christian practice that killing "evil" and destroying "evil" should permit the killing of babies.

Also, Christians should not object to abortions.

By your logic, a tiger that kills a deer is also "evil."




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Wed 03/30/11 12:42 PM

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Wed 03/30/11 12:58 PM





AndyBgood Why do you think or believe that man in "innately" evil?

And how do you define "evil?" What do you think "evil" means?

I believe that if you fill yourself with love there is no room for hate or "demons."

Humans are blessed with the ability to have compassion and love and a huge variety of other emotions. That is the inner spark that I call God.

It is the creative spark.






Generally children are born innately evil. When A child is playing with their toys. They tend to usually be destructive with their imagination. Not ALWAYS, but as a general rule this is true. That is why kids are clumsy and knock things over. They aren't thinking of others and or what they are doing to ensure not harming/hurting another. Children steal things, even if it's just as simple as a cookie. They see it, they want it, they take it.


Actually that is not true. What they call that is "the ID." They call that innocence. Not "evil." They don't know the concept of stealing.

Anyway I was asking Andy...


Doesn't matter if one knows what they are doing is evil or not. The fact still remains what one is doing is evil. The "I don't know better" doesn't work. They may receive forgiveness easier, but nevertheless they did something "evil". ALL actions come from the heart.


Okay Cowboy... if babies are "evil" then the Christian practice that killing "evil" and destroying "evil" should permit the killing of babies.

Also, Christians should not object to abortions.

By your logic, a tiger that kills a deer is also "evil."






Oh but it's not our position to make such a judgment. We do NOT practice killing "evil" or destroying "evil". Where did you get this from? o.O

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Wed 03/30/11 01:06 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/30/11 01:07 PM
Oh but it's not our position to make such a judgment. We do NOT practice killing "evil" or destroying "evil". Where did you get this from? o.O


The book of Joshua... God ordered killings of the "evil people."
(Again, what book are you reading? What Church are you listening to?)

Hitler (your hero) Killed the Jews because he was convinced they were "evil." (Hitler was a Christian, supported by the Catholic Church and even by american companies and the George Bush family--all Christians.)

Throughout History wars are fought and armies on both sides are convinced by their religious leaders that they are killing the "evil" enemy.

George Bush Jr. a Christian who talks to God, was instructed who was "evil" and needed killing. "Your are either with us or against us" was his battle cry. That was just a few years back...even you should remember that.


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Wed 03/30/11 01:10 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/30/11 01:39 PM
Cowboy says children are born innately evil.

Generally children are born innately evil. When A child is playing with their toys. They tend to usually be destructive with their imagination. Not ALWAYS, but as a general rule this is true. That is why kids are clumsy and knock things over. They aren't thinking of others and or what they are doing to ensure not harming/hurting another. Children steal things, even if it's just as simple as a cookie. They see it, they want it, they take it.


Even it they don't know any better..... they are evil..

Doesn't matter if one knows what they are doing is evil or not. The fact still remains what one is doing is evil. The "I don't know better" doesn't work. They may receive forgiveness easier, but nevertheless they did something "evil". ALL actions come from the heart.



If your are saying that babies are "evil" then what would be wrong in killing a baby? How could destroying evil be wrong? According to Christian teachings, evil must be destroyed. That is why Joshua supposedly killed all of the people in Jerico etc. They were evil. God gave orders to destroy them, so it was okay.

And so what is wrong with abortion then? Or even human sacrifice of babies? ... after all.. they are evil according to you. Right?

I can't believe you would even suggest such a thing.surprised shocked

And why does the Bible teach that children killed under a certain age will go to heaven no matter what? Does heaven want evil children and evil babies?


I'M CURIOUS NOW...

Cowboy, have you ever even read the Bible???

Were your parents mean to you? Did they convince you that you were evil? If so, I am so sorry...

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Wed 03/30/11 05:00 PM
this is another popular disagreement

I personally believe the description of being born IN SIN, refers to how we are conceived and who we are conceived from


the bible has COUNTLESS verses, including from Jesus, advising us to be more LIKE children so that it seems to me that the 'innocence' or 'spirit' of a child is preferred