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Topic: Who wrote the New Testament?
Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 03/27/11 05:27 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 03/27/11 05:28 PM
Do you know he wrote that by his calculations Yahshua's return or if you want to say the end of the world as we know it will be in 2060.. Blessings..Miles Oh that's a load off my mind. I was getting ready for next year's event. (December 21, 2012)

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Sun 03/27/11 05:34 PM
Yes he was ahead of the ch-rch of his time.. he may of been put to death but he still spent alot of time studying. Do you know he wrote that by his calculations Yahshua's return or if you want to say the end of the world as we know it will be in 2060.. Blessings..Miles No I'm not aware of that particular calculation. It seems to me that it would be impossible to even calculate such a thing since most biblical scriptures simple state that no man knows the time. Did you know that Isaac Newton supposedly owned about 200 different copies of the "bible"? Back then there were many different versions of it. So it's hard to say which versions (or combination of versions) he might have used to make any such calculations. In fact, in Newton's day Alchemy and Astrology were still considered to be as valid subjects of study as any 'science'. Science as we know it today didn't truly exist in Newton's time. Newton himself helped to define what we today call 'science'. Much of what Newton did in terms of "Alchemy" would today be seen as "witchcraft", it's wasn't exactly "Chemistry" as we know it today and it included many spiritual superstitions and rituals that would be totally out of place in today's field of "Chemistry". Newton lived in an age where superstition held as much clout as the "scientific method" which itself was only just getting underway.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 03/27/11 05:43 PM
The Christian Church was built to represent and perpetuate the extreme male vibration, the Sun energy, and to keep the ancient knowledge secret. The Christian Church became a crucial and highly effective vehicle to remove knowledge from circulation so it could be used secretly and malevolently from behind the scenes. The assault on the balancing female energy and the hoarding of knowledge resulted in the persecution of ‘witches’ - channellers, mediums, psychics and seers of all kinds. HOW A DECREE OUTLAWED PROPHETS, ORACLES CHANNELERS AND VESSELS OF GOD. These communications with other realms had been an everyday part of pre-Christian life. Channellers were given names like prophets, oracles, vessels of God and such like. One of the leaders of this witch-hunt was Jerome, born in 341, who is credited with gathering the texts for the main Latin version of the ‘Holy Bible’. It was Jerome who persuaded the Pope to outlaw channelling (psychic communications with other dimensions). By this single papal decree, the vessels of God became vessels and witches of the Devil, terms still used by many Christians. King James I, the first king of both England and Scotland, included a bitter condemnation of witches in his King James Bible in 1611 and he was true to his word as he had thousands of women tortured and executed for being witches. Jerome wanted the priests to be the middle men between humanity and God. He did not want people going direct, contradicting the official line, or circulating unapproved knowledge. As he said: “We tell them (the channellers) that we do not so much reject prophecy, as refuse to receive prophets whose utterances fail to accord with the Scriptures old and new.“24

Milesoftheusa Joined Fri 10/27/06 Posts: 5122	Sun 03/27/11 05:44 PM
Yes he was ahead of the ch-rch of his time.. he may of been put to death but he still spent alot of time studying. Do you know he wrote that by his calculations Yahshua's return or if you want to say the end of the world as we know it will be in 2060.. Blessings..Miles No I'm not aware of that particular calculation. It seems to me that it would be impossible to even calculate such a thing since most biblical scriptures simple state that no man knows the time. Did you know that Isaac Newton supposedly owned about 200 different copies of the "bible"? Back then there were many different versions of it. So it's hard to say which versions (or combination of versions) he might have used to make any such calculations. In fact, in Newton's day Alchemy and Astrology were still considered to be as valid subjects of study as any 'science'. Science as we know it today didn't truly exist in Newton's time. Newton himself helped to define what we today call 'science'. Much of what Newton did in terms of "Alchemy" would today be seen as "witchcraft", it's wasn't exactly "Chemistry" as we know it today and it included many spiritual superstitions and rituals that would be totally out of place in today's field of "Chemistry". Newton lived in an age where superstition held as much clout as the "scientific method" which itself was only just getting underway. I did not know thier was that many versions..Nostradamus used the same basically I believe as Newton in his science.. I truely believe both of them were very inspired people.. Nostradomus we mainly hear about his home in the city.. He also had a cottage in the countryside that he had full of books he studied.. The pope ordered his house burnt and all of his books burned also and if anyone who was thier doing this for him tried to steal one he was to be put to death.. They hated what he was reading.. Blessings..Miles

Milesoftheusa Joined Fri 10/27/06 Posts: 5122	Sun 03/27/11 05:50 PM
Do you know he wrote that by his calculations Yahshua's return or if you want to say the end of the world as we know it will be in 2060.. Blessings..Miles Oh that's a load off my mind. I was getting ready for next year's event. (December 21, 2012) Well JB sit down and take a load off your mind.. bad Miles Bad Sorry I could not resist. Blessings..Miles

freakyshiki2009 Joined Sun 02/27/11 Posts: 902	Mon 03/28/11 07:35 AM
Jeanniebean, you may not know this but the authors of the books of the New Testament are in the titles.

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Mon 03/28/11 08:12 AM
Jeanniebean, you may not know this but the authors of the books of the New Testament are in the titles. Jeanniebean is suggesting that those are all fictional characters and that they were all created by a family named Piso.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/28/11 08:39 AM
This is the Prophecy of those who willingly ignore Yahshua's name and insult him with thier own. Heb 10:26-31 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of Yahweh underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says Yahweh. And again, "Yahweh will judge His people." 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living Elohim. NKJV This is why you see me use Elohim, Master, Messiah, Yahweh and Yahshua... Blessings..Miles Well according to some Christians, Moses Law is no longer in effect after the new one came into effect. So why worry about the old laws?? Also the term "Elohim" is plural which means "Gods" There were more than one of those running around back then I suspect. They may have been "fearful" alien beings who were mistook for "Gods." Yes true. The laws of Moses was in the old covenant, which has been completed. Then cowboy throw out Pauls writings and Peters for sure for both spoke of keepng the law in Acts 10 Peter and Acts 21 Paul.. so they must be liars. James 1:21-27 Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. 26 If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one's religion is useless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion before Yahshua and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world. NKJV Shalom. its up to u none else..Miles Mose's laws are not in the new testament/new covenant. So you reject Pauls and Peters writings.. because both said they upheld and kept the law.. way after Yahshua's death.. Shalom..Miles Please show me where Paul and Peter said to keep MOSES'S LAWS. Don't show me where some of their teachings may have been similar, but show me specifically where we are told to keep MOSES'S LAWS.

freakyshiki2009 Joined Sun 02/27/11 Posts: 902	Mon 03/28/11 08:57 AM
Cowboy, I hear you. It is amazing that some people will quote the Bible without having read it.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 03/28/11 09:19 AM
Jeanniebean, you may not know this but the authors of the books of the New Testament are in the titles. Seriously, is that really what you believe?

freakyshiki2009 Joined Sun 02/27/11 Posts: 902	Mon 03/28/11 09:22 AM
That is what I believe. Seriously.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 03/28/11 09:38 AM
That is what I believe. Seriously. Okeee dokeeee.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 03/28/11 09:54 AM
That is what I believe. Seriously. matthew the tax collector, luke the physician, john the disciple, saul of tarsarus, james jesus' brother, disciple peter, jude brother of james some of the titles also refer to the person or audience being addressed,,,,, This is what I believe

freakyshiki2009 Joined Sun 02/27/11 Posts: 902	Mon 03/28/11 10:02 AM
OK, JeannieBean, let me ask you this. Who wrote the following book? Call of the Wild by Jack London P.S. This is not a trick question.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 03/28/11 10:10 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 03/28/11 10:12 AM
I have a friend who writes fiction books. She uses a pen name. So just about any book written may be by a person using a pen name, particularly fiction. So it is with the New Testament.

freakyshiki2009 Joined Sun 02/27/11 Posts: 902	Mon 03/28/11 10:31 AM
So, now you are saying that Jack London's name is not real? Wow, you have trust issues.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 03/28/11 10:48 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 03/28/11 10:50 AM
So, now you are saying that Jack London's name is not real? Wow, you have trust issues. Did I say that? I don't think so. I don't know one way or another about Jack London or who wrote that book. He may have hired someone to write it. Point is, it is FICTION so nobody cares who wrote it. Well, I don't anyway.

freakyshiki2009 Joined Sun 02/27/11 Posts: 902	Mon 03/28/11 11:34 AM
JeannieBean writes: "Point is, it is FICTION so nobody cares who wrote it. Well, I don't anyway." OK, so who wrote the Diary of Anne Frank? P.S. That is not fiction.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Mon 03/28/11 01:58 PM
JeannieBean writes: "Point is, it is FICTION so nobody cares who wrote it. Well, I don't anyway." OK, so who wrote the Diary of Anne Frank? P.S. That is not fiction. It claims to be non fiction anyway. and I don't know who might have wrote it. And I have no opinion of whether it is fiction or not. What is your point?

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Mon 03/28/11 03:32 PM
JeannieBean writes: "Point is, it is FICTION so nobody cares who wrote it. Well, I don't anyway." OK, so who wrote the Diary of Anne Frank? P.S. That is not fiction. People who claim that the holocaust never happened would obviously not agree with you that it's not fiction.