i hate it when that happens

Yesterday I watched a movie call "Retroaction" about a time machine. It was action packed.

Then I watched "Being John Malcovich" which was really weird about people entering another person's body and taking over their life.

did you watch the "surrogates" yet?

Yes! I watched it on Netflix on my computer. It was good!

do you ever watch stargate sg1? that whole series goes along with this topic is about too, one of my favorite shows...

"A Time Machine is a device that creates CTCs (closed timelike curves) in a region to the future of its operation, where otherwise none would have transpired.

Closed timelike curves represent permitted paths for material particles that are continuous, timelike, future directed curves intersecting themselves, thus forming causal loops. These CTCs, nota bene, emerge as a result of the geometric structure of spacetime rather than from an action performed by an agent attempting to travel back in time."


In the last 200 years we humans have gone from the Write brothers plane to super sonic jets. That's just 200 years.

When you consider that this universe, this galaxy has been around a lot longer than that and has billions of stars and planets it would not be very smart to assume that some other form of intelligent life does not exist and has not worked on some sort of space ships.

But they would still be limited to the speed of light, at least in the visible universe. So, what about the invisible parts of the universe? Maybe travel is only a matter of frequency and energy.

Yes I used to watch it a lot. I live in Colorado. That's were the real "star gate" exists.

lol...Cheyenne mountian... any motherships land on it yet?

I haven't seen any land on it. My Xhubby said he saw a great big ship one night when he was working as a security guard. He was on top of a 4 story apartment building.

He has two hours of missing time too. I think he was abducted and they threw him back. He didn't talk about it much.

What about the Philadelphia experiment.

Did we accomplish time travel then, or rip a hole in the spacetime continuum? I started a thread about that question here:

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/300655

They used fiction to dress up a story about a radar test.

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Are you saying then, that you think that the Philadelphia experiment was only a simple radar test? Do you know this for a fact or are you just taking their word for it?

In the book I read in 1976 called "Thin air" I found the story extremely believable. If it was a work of fiction, it was one of the best fiction books I've ever read. I was convinced. It did not mention anything about time travel though.

Also, if it was just a work of fiction, why would so many people waste time on repeating the story, and calling it true? What would be the point of any of that?

JB 'Maybe travel is only a matter of frequency and energy. '

You are so right.

Every single point of mass, from the smallest atoms has a gravitational frequence.

The more discrete pices of mass you have in a small location (relative to a star).

the greater is the 'frequency' of the gravitational force.

Since every thing moves.

Gravational forces will 'direct' any movement that is not controlled by an outside source of energy.

and Gravatational forces will 'alter' the movement of any moving oject that IS moving due to an outside source of energy.

The physics don't work so most of the story is just silly. The claimed ship wasn't even there so the names of the two ships got mixed up. The only mishap (as I recall) was during a degaussing process to make the ship invisible to magnetic mines, not to light like the story goes (a process similar to wiping a hard drive). The closest thing to the story that ever happened was the radar experiments but they didn't generate any unusual events.

In reality, if any of the claimed events had actually happened, we would have a different set of physics books, the military would have dumped enough money into the research to have perfected it, and we would have given it away to China by now.

How do you know the physics don't work? With the possible discovery of a new particle there is probably a lot we don't know about the physics of it.



We may have a different set of physics books soon anyway.

As you remember? You speak as if you were there. I don't think you were. If the experiment was just about radar. the whole incident would have been just forgotten. You talk as if you totally trust everything you hear as the official story, as if our military and our government never engages in any black ops or secret projects. This is just extremely naive. Have you ever heard about the montauk project?

If you don't believe that, then I can list a bunch of secret military projects that HAVE been acknowledged by the government that they totally denied at the time.

Montauk project:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk.htm

Project Looking Glass...

an attempt to peer back in time.

(or so say the CT people)

Top ten evil human experiments:


http://listverse.com/2008/03/14/top-10-evil-human-experiments/

Top ten weirdest CIA experiments:


http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-weirdest-cia-programs.php

Top ten Declassified Secrets:

http://2leep.com/bar.php?s=86177

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That's just a quick example.

So go ahead and believe everything your official government tells you if it helps you to sleep at night.

The physics don't work because I work with physics.

The "I recall" is me discussing when I (several years ago) researched everything I could find about the event because I was curious. I have access to much better sources of information than the internet including past secret military projects.

You talk as if you can't tell when someone may have worked in government or secret military operations. You are extremely naive if you think the internet is a "good" research tool for subjects such as this.

You know, that's the funniest thing I have ever heard.





So are you claiming that YOU have worked in government and secret military operations?

(Lots of people have, but that does not mean they have access all top secret information...)

The internet has a lot of junk, but it is still a great tool for research and information.... and finding the truth. That's why our own president Obama now seeks the power to shut it all down.

Don't be so naive.

I have said on several occasions that most of what I know did not come from the internet.

You have no idea.