I was watching dr phil the other day and TOTALLY disagreed with something he was saying and I was struck by the concept of


respect vs agreement


is it necessary to agree with everything one chooses to do or everything one says, to have respect for them(in their occupation, or their personal life)


I know I get reamed sometimes for saying I respect Farrakhan, I believe the assumption is that I must agree with everything he has done or said but I dont know how it is possible to feel THAT feeling about anyone as we are all fallible

I also think Tim Wise is an excellent commentator although I disagree with him quite often, I think he is MOST OF THE time spot on and so I respect him in his occupation

I respect dr phil in his occupation although I think he gets it DEAD wrong sometimes(but most the time I think he is spot on)

I think maybe its the overall balance, or whether we view people as MOSTLY agreeable or MOSTLY unagreeable that leads to a feeling of respect


I dont know, I was just thinking

Reasonable people can disagree on reasonable things.

I can be friends with someone who voted for Obama (which I would compare to giving a child the keys to a monster truck), but I can't be friends with someone who supported say...Hitler. If someone supported an unreasonable position, I consider that persons judgment and reason compromised.

Respect is earned..it aint given.

Benefit of the doubt is given....and we don't got a lot of it. Still we give what we got.

No one is entitled to respect...I don't care what that worthless piece of crap Farrakahn says...

NO ONE rides for free.

When I was in the military I got told many time I did not have to agree with the person, but I do have to respect the position. People make bad choices some times, but they usually made many more good ones to get the respect first...

HAH!

I was in the military too....

I aint never been around more dumb SOB's than in the Navy.....

Of course they will say "Respect the position"

just like preachers will say the same crap... but, just cause some weak minded retard tells me to do something....don't mean I will do it.

Yes there are plenty of idiots in the military, but there are a few that know what they are doing.

Think about an old boxer/fighter... he might not be able to fight now but you respect the time that he put in to the fights and all even if you do not agree with his techniques since they are so outdated for today. That is just one example, I am sure you all can think of dozens more...

Back to the topic at hand...

Dr. Phil has been divorced and is giving out advice....


I could do that and I have never been divorced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQe8Mk19_s4

No one that anyone can say they like,,,CAN BE, right all the time through that person's thoughts,,,,we're just made that away,,,lol
Your going to have LIVED something that THEY didn't,,to KNOW that YOU DISAGREE....

I could never RESPECT anyone who ONCE SHOWED ME their--DISRESPECT
for what I RESPECTED,,,over and over again...

Like HOW could I respect someone who told me they never drank,,
THEN SEE THEM DRINKING on different ocassions,,,

I could BE THEIR FRIEND,,and LIKE THEM,,,but would THEY HAVE MY RESPECT
"NO",,,,for they have lied to me of WHO THEY REALLY ARE...

Now that pertains to MY exceptance of THEM,,also SHARING MY VIEWS ON THAT SUBJECT OR NOT FEELING MY VIEWS,,,,as in WE AGREED or didn't agree on the same views in our minds..

WE can not HAVE the same views on many small agreements between our selves,,like our lover
But we still have RESPECT for each others views on things..

If they don't want me working third shift,,,but I like THAT,,we can be in disagreement on that,,,but we wouldn't lose ANY respect for each other through that..

Two people(a couple) CAN'T have agreement IF,,they Have no respect for one another,
why would they want to try?

I can and have respected a woman,,who I also was NEVER in agreement,, in some areas of life...

I would say you DON'T have to have BOTH,,to have ONE...

As a matter of fact,,I respect her,,,for finding disagreement in some things as we're all different...

But then,,I am very opened minded as to have any forced focuss on MY VIEWS to many issues, as I am not an opinionated type of person..

THAT PERSON,,,MAY FEEL THIS WAY?

the point you agree or disagree on different people is because thats your right cause its your opinion and nothing wrong with that everyone has there own opinion on life and people and agreements as for respect you can respect a person and disagree with them if you know know the fact of the reality of the statement cause you can respect that people are helping others but no 1 is perfect ,therefore they can be wrong and you can disagree so no it is not is it necessary to agree with everything one chooses to do or everything one says, to have respect for them, EXAMPLE say you go to a doctors office and he says don't take vitamins or natural foods they won't help your cold you need antibiotics but ok you disagree and try natural foods and they worked but then another time you have a bad infection and you take his advise and use antibiotics and they work its really comes done to opinion on a person maybe both may have worked but you not disrespect you gave him knowledge of something natural that worked :) so it comes done to facts who is right or wrong and no 1 is right 100% you or them so you can disagree and respect same time:) if you know the facts but if you don't know the facts then it can be disrespect of his knowledge or maybe you just want to be 100% sure and read facts:) again you follow? lolllllllllll have a great night hugsssssssssssss

I have a distinct problem with assumed authority and knew better than to join the military. I more than likely would have gone FMJ on someone! Where I come from basic respect is given to everyone but people prove themselves and that is where I determine where respect is earned or denied. I have met people I loath and will do so openly. The thing is I watch and a scum bag is a scum bag. I don't like having scumbags around. There are times you have no choice but to deal with someone you despise. it is a stronger person who can put differences aside long enough to get the job done.

BUT BUT BUT there is one special case, people who are terminal fukups and don't care. Those are the ones I just want to shoot from a cannon! There are times that I can't respect certain people for any reason.

Words and actions.

It is clear I despise President Obama for a host of reasons but he is one person I despise so much I would ignore him if I had to be in a room with him. I would not shake his hand. If he said the wrong thing in my presence in public I would spit in his eye. He is a charlatan and a career liar. Like previous presidents he sold us out to the highest bidder. His actions and incompetence have proven him to me, not his color. I cannot even respect his position a president for being such a sell out. I despise weak leadership, I totally disrespect liars. He has been caught so many times lying I am surprised his nose isn't 23 feet long.

And yet people suck up to him becasue he is president. On top of that I would hate like hell to be an officer having to salute the liar if I had enlisted!!! Christ, I could imagine how I would act if I had been drafted and had to salute his dumb azz!

I think your sense of balance is very tilted. You despise racism yet you respect Lewis Pharakahn? A known racist and hater of Whites? That is so hypocritical! To pin the voice of change on the rhetoric of hatred... Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton... both men of the cloth... Both men of God... and yet they hate Jews and Whitey...

And then Obama's rhetoric??? White man this and White man that... All of the sins of man are heaped upon the shoulders of the White man... 'Corporate Greed is white man's greed?' And then his wife on the Haiti Earthquake... "This was all the result of Corporate White America meddling with Haiti?" Now unlike China I know these things were said and you can't hide for the comments they made. I am supposed to trust hate mongers, why?

I am confused? What is to respect in that greasy headed pimp of hatred Pharakahn? I am so confused??? He spread the voice of hate and embraced Islam???

At least Martin Luther King Jr. was not blaming whitey for all the black man's problems! Why does all this equality shiit sound so backwards to me these days? Equal as long as we are more equal than you? I take it that is how equality is supposed to work for black America?

IMO,nobody is always right.
We may have the right to free speech, but not guarantee the right to be heard.

Respecting an opinion (even if it isn't one you agree with) is only fair. I would wish the same of others towards me. I think peoples opinions are relevant to their circumstances, be they current or past. But it's only just that in disagreement one could counter with theirs.

my .02c worth,

K.

Roger that kic.

K.

RESPECT COMMANDS RESPECT!

If you DEMAND respect from me, surely means it is already lost.

I do agree with you Msharmony on whether one can respect a person even if one doesn't agree with them, to an extent.

But then I tend to automatically give a person basic respect before I know them, rather then forcing someone to earn that respect. It's after they mess up that I lose respect and they might have a chance to earn it back.

If a person is someone I consistently disagree with on multiple beliefs, then there is no common ground. I will be polite, but I won't have anything to do with the person. They don't have my respect.

I think you can respect but disagree with someone. Also, you can agree with someone, but that dosen't necessarily mean you respect them. Agreement and respect are two different things.

many interesting opinions, thanx

I just have to correct one thing though,,the statement from OBama about white mans greed is not a statement from OBama(FACT) and I have not personally seen nor heard Michele make any such statement regarding Haiti

I respect Farrakhan, because I respect intelligence, and I consider him a well read man under conditions that MOST would not be well read

I respect his interest in knowledge and personal improvement and I respect his spirit, which I think is passionate and humble(if such two things can exist side by side)


peace

and I enjoy reading yours as well,,,,always with respect

I respect my parents, but I would disagree with them from time to time and occasionally I would be right and they would be wrong. It all depends on if you view them as fallible or not. For instance, your parents are fallible, Louis Farrakhan is fallible, but would you consider the Qu'ran fallible? If not, you would take everything it said as the absolute truth. If you truly believe it, it's called faith. If you don't, it's called being gullible or stupid.

I think that almost any book written by fallible humans is fallible
(potentially)


Absolute truth is another topic.


I respect people in general until they do something to lose respect and than I still respect them, just a little less than before.