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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? Germany... their system sucks. Dr. has more say then the patient does. |
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. |
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. they feel its worth it, I feel it would be too its kind of like military personnel, when their room and board and meals are provided, whatever they do get is pocket money so it doesnt have to be alot if your needs are provided for, what is in excess is still a plus |
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. they feel its worth it, I feel it would be too its kind of like military personnel, when their room and board and meals are provided, whatever they do get is pocket money so it doesnt have to be alot if your needs are provided for, what is in excess is still a plus I feel it would be worth it as well.! |
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Did you watch the SOTU speech harmony?
I left a link in the thread. |
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Did you watch the SOTU speech harmony? I left a link in the thread. sure did |
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. they feel its worth it, I feel it would be too its kind of like military personnel, when their room and board and meals are provided, whatever they do get is pocket money so it doesnt have to be alot if your needs are provided for, what is in excess is still a plus So why not use the extra money you would pay in taxes on health insurance? If you are saying people can't afford it now than rasing taxes and giving them less money wont have them any better off. |
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. they feel its worth it, I feel it would be too its kind of like military personnel, when their room and board and meals are provided, whatever they do get is pocket money so it doesnt have to be alot if your needs are provided for, what is in excess is still a plus So why not use the extra money you would pay in taxes on health insurance? If you are saying people can't afford it now than rasing taxes and giving them less money wont have them any better off. I think thats the idea, everyone purchase insurance(who can afford to) or else pay an extra tax,,,, |
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. they feel its worth it, I feel it would be too its kind of like military personnel, when their room and board and meals are provided, whatever they do get is pocket money so it doesnt have to be alot if your needs are provided for, what is in excess is still a plus So why not use the extra money you would pay in taxes on health insurance? If you are saying people can't afford it now than rasing taxes and giving them less money wont have them any better off. I think thats the idea, everyone purchase insurance(who can afford to) or else pay an extra tax,,,, And that seems to be the Liberal answer to everything. Do you realize how stupid your comment just made the whole idea of supporting obamacare sound? If you can't afford to pay for health care we are going to tax you more? And so we tax the people who cannot afford to pay for health care. Talk about trying to squeeze blood from a rock! Can you honestly see the cyclical logic going on here? Go ahead and roll yours eyes at me through smileys again Fanta. At least my bananas do something more entertaining! It is clear who among us really has been college educated and who has not! What fantasy world do you people live in? |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 01/26/11 09:44 AM
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. they feel its worth it, I feel it would be too its kind of like military personnel, when their room and board and meals are provided, whatever they do get is pocket money so it doesnt have to be alot if your needs are provided for, what is in excess is still a plus So why not use the extra money you would pay in taxes on health insurance? If you are saying people can't afford it now than rasing taxes and giving them less money wont have them any better off. I think thats the idea, everyone purchase insurance(who can afford to) or else pay an extra tax,,,, And that seems to be the Liberal answer to everything. Do you realize how stupid your comment just made the whole idea of supporting obamacare sound? If you can't afford to pay for health care we are going to tax you more? And so we tax the people who cannot afford to pay for health care. Talk about trying to squeeze blood from a rock! Can you honestly see the cyclical logic going on here? Go ahead and roll yours eyes at me through smileys again Fanta. At least my bananas do something more entertaining! It is clear who among us really has been college educated and who has not! What fantasy world do you people live in? NOTE: (who can afford to) kind of thought that cleared up the affordability issue also NOTE: college educated does NOT = smart, anymore than non college educated = dumb |
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. they feel its worth it, I feel it would be too its kind of like military personnel, when their room and board and meals are provided, whatever they do get is pocket money so it doesnt have to be alot if your needs are provided for, what is in excess is still a plus So why not use the extra money you would pay in taxes on health insurance? If you are saying people can't afford it now than rasing taxes and giving them less money wont have them any better off. I think thats the idea, everyone purchase insurance(who can afford to) or else pay an extra tax,,,, And that seems to be the Liberal answer to everything. Do you realize how stupid your comment just made the whole idea of supporting obamacare sound? If you can't afford to pay for health care we are going to tax you more? And so we tax the people who cannot afford to pay for health care. Talk about trying to squeeze blood from a rock! Can you honestly see the cyclical logic going on here? Go ahead and roll yours eyes at me through smileys again Fanta. At least my bananas do something more entertaining! It is clear who among us really has been college educated and who has not! What fantasy world do you people live in? NOTE: (who can afford to) kind of thought that cleared up the affordability issue also NOTE: college educated does NOT = smart, anymore than non college educated = dumb no but there is a correlation between the two. |
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. they feel its worth it, I feel it would be too its kind of like military personnel, when their room and board and meals are provided, whatever they do get is pocket money so it doesnt have to be alot if your needs are provided for, what is in excess is still a plus So why not use the extra money you would pay in taxes on health insurance? If you are saying people can't afford it now than rasing taxes and giving them less money wont have them any better off. I think thats the idea, everyone purchase insurance(who can afford to) or else pay an extra tax,,,, Do the math... Every 6 to 10 years it will need an additional 'investment' to continue providing the coverage... This is an outrageous piece of legislation... yet people (on all sides) just buy into the 'lean' (of which ever side they favor)... and argue about it... DO THE MATH. Then factor in the number of children that will be born. (unless we do like china and LIMIT parents by requiring a license from Uncle Sam to have kids). It is an unsustainable system... It will allow those alive now to have it good followed by the next generation having a bit less and so on and so on. |
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. they feel its worth it, I feel it would be too its kind of like military personnel, when their room and board and meals are provided, whatever they do get is pocket money so it doesnt have to be alot if your needs are provided for, what is in excess is still a plus So why not use the extra money you would pay in taxes on health insurance? If you are saying people can't afford it now than rasing taxes and giving them less money wont have them any better off. I think thats the idea, everyone purchase insurance(who can afford to) or else pay an extra tax,,,, Do the math... Every 6 to 10 years it will need an additional 'investment' to continue providing the coverage... This is an outrageous piece of legislation... yet people (on all sides) just buy into the 'lean' (of which ever side they favor)... and argue about it... DO THE MATH. Then factor in the number of children that will be born. (unless we do like china and LIMIT parents by requiring a license from Uncle Sam to have kids). It is an unsustainable system... It will allow those alive now to have it good followed by the next generation having a bit less and so on and so on. Just like social security. |
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how has it been sustained so well elsewhere?
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Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered. Quoting myself since everyone wants to ignore it. How many of you actually lived in a country that has socialized HC before? I have lived in the UK for a year, I also have friends in the UK, France, Switzerland, and Canada those from UK, France, and Switzerland visited or worked here in the states and were completely FLOORED by our healthcare system,,,its not just a hunch, although Im sure mismanagement can damage anything and lead to exceptions like Japan Its not cheap in those places either. You are taxed significantly more. they feel its worth it, I feel it would be too its kind of like military personnel, when their room and board and meals are provided, whatever they do get is pocket money so it doesnt have to be alot if your needs are provided for, what is in excess is still a plus So why not use the extra money you would pay in taxes on health insurance? If you are saying people can't afford it now than rasing taxes and giving them less money wont have them any better off. I think thats the idea, everyone purchase insurance(who can afford to) or else pay an extra tax,,,, Do the math... Every 6 to 10 years it will need an additional 'investment' to continue providing the coverage... This is an outrageous piece of legislation... yet people (on all sides) just buy into the 'lean' (of which ever side they favor)... and argue about it... DO THE MATH. Then factor in the number of children that will be born. (unless we do like china and LIMIT parents by requiring a license from Uncle Sam to have kids). It is an unsustainable system... It will allow those alive now to have it good followed by the next generation having a bit less and so on and so on. Just like social security. Social security can be adjusted (it is a singular entity). This medical care bill was constructed in such a way that it has 'strings' and 'links' (over time) into a multiple parts of our Free Market system... If we let them argue about it for to long it will have so many links that it will be extremly hard to remove. Kinda like trying to remove a large spider web by cutting the 'threads' with nail clippers... you never quite get it all. Better to use the broom and sweep it clean. |
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how has it been sustained so well elsewhere? Smaller countries, less people, higher taxes, less defense spending, less support of other countries, they pay much less for the UN, etc. |
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how has it been sustained so well elsewhere? Smaller countries, less people, higher taxes, less defense spending, less support of other countries, they pay much less for the UN, etc. I dont think if we figure things out on per capita that the number of people matters as much. The other factors Im completely willing to duplicate here though. Raise the taxes, cut the spending, take care of home first, ,,all sounds good to me. |
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how has it been sustained so well elsewhere? Smaller countries, less people, higher taxes, less defense spending, less support of other countries, they pay much less for the UN, etc. Truth! What a welcome thing truth is. 
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how has it been sustained so well elsewhere? Smaller countries, less people, higher taxes, less defense spending, less support of other countries, they pay much less for the UN, etc. I dont think if we figure things out on per capita that the number of people matters as much. The other factors Im completely willing to duplicate here though. Raise the taxes, cut the spending, take care of home first, ,,all sounds good to me. I am curious what the incomes are of all the people that are pro raising taxes lol and if they would support a flat increase and not more of an increase for the wealthy. |
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I forgot they spend a lot less on illegal immigrants as well. Get rid of them and then have those jobs taken by tax payers and use the new revenue to pay for HC. lol
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