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Yes my good sir you are correct.

We should just go immediately to single payer and restructure our health care delivery to be similar to the worlds best and most cost effective health care systems. The French model has been evaluated as the world's most effective care system in terms of the lowest post-care infection rates and lowest incidence of complications and best survival statistics. A large number of the worlds countries with higher rated health systems deliver it at a cost which is 1/2 to 1/3 or even much lower than the cost in %GDP per person of the system we have here.

Single payer cuts out much of the overhead and allows for the best leverage for lowest cost for all supplies, drugs and services and there are a number of successful models on how to do make the mechanics of the system work.

We should not be satisfied with anything less than the best bang for the buck, best medical care and lowest cost system in the world but we will never be able to do that with a remnant of our wasteful bloated insurance bureaucracy or with some stopgap half measures. The sooner we take control of the system and cut out the middlemen the faster we will reap the savings - both in saved lives and saved money (reduced debt) with interest.

Isn't Health Care part of our 'export'.

Proof...

Other countries send their money and children here to train in medical fields.

We send teams of doctors all over the world.

Kinda makes health care PART of our GDP... Is it factored into the chart... Reckon not. That would change the numerics as far as costs are concerned.

GIGO

You get out what you factor in.

The GDP for each country can be tallied and it is s fairly simple calculation:

"The gross domestic product (GDP) or gross domestic income (GDI) is the amount of goods and services produced in a year, in a country. It is the market value of all final goods and services made within the borders of a country in a year. It is often positively correlated with the standard of living."

from the Wiki...

So, when the total cost of health care is taken as a % of GDP it tells directly what percentage of the country's output is used up to provide health care. By any measure the US system is the most inefficient in the world. We are being ripped off.

And our care sucks too in comparison to a large part of the world according to objective measures. So - we deserve better and I suggest we just go for the lowest cost and highest performing system we can get. All the best cost/performance HC systems in the world are single payer and there is a good reason for that.

see the WHO reports. France is #1 and the US #37 behind Chile, Denmark, Domenica and Costa Rica....

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

I think we should be #1 and at a cost less than 1/3 what we currently pay.

When a national disaster occures our health care system can 'flex' with it.

Watch as the world learns a lesson in humility.

One by one those universal systems will feel the brunt of nature (and in some cases man made disasters of LARGE porportion).

and come up short.

(unless they all want to just get along... In which case many 'governmental' services will not be necessary)...

Reckon THAT ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

Portions of it need to be, like the mandatory part. Also the use of tax dollars to pay for someone else to have HC...get your own HC welfare brats!

That's it AB.
Twist the facts to fit your reality rather than take them for the reality they really are.
Michael Moore was right in Sicko.
Believe it or not.

The mandatory part must be there or else the Public Option.

The only other alternative is to make those who still refuse to be insured sign a waiver of all treatment. They agree to die without any treatment they don't have the cash to pay for on the spot.

Excellent post slow!

Spot on.

Who in the heck do you think pays the bill for those without insurance? Whether they want it or not.
Us that's who! Those with insurance, their premiums increase, and the tax-payer, with their tax dollars.

Healthcare in japan is not very cheap lol. The facilities are not that high of a standard. You don't have a room just a curtain separating you. For thing that we require anestesia for they may not and it's not covered.

if we allready pay the darn bill why INCREASE taxes to pay for it again? thats right twist the truth to fit the agenda.

I have noticed that premiums only seem to increase when the insurance companies think HC bill is going to go away or run into 'bumps' in the politicl discorse (like when people start seeing its ugly truth). Kinda makes me wonder who ACTUALLY gets the support of insurance companies.

Or Policy holders are burdened with compensating the Insurance lobbist money paid to the Party of No, for their votes, and FOX News for their misinformation campaign.

Those who pay the income tax (penalty)for healthcare will be paying the portion for those uninsured since it will be them who is uninsured.

Since saying those who pay income tax are uninsured is misleading since only 40 million are uninsured but way more than that pay income tax.

Exactly Right!

Read her post again Chazster.

That isn't what she said.

Well if her statement made more since. Is she talking about the penalty for not having HC? The fee you pay if you are not insured? Because it is very minor and that won't cover the costs.

$2500 doesn't even pay for 1 night in a hospital let alone the rest of the expenses that go along with it.