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Topic: On going Poll.
Fanta46's photo
Wed 01/12/11 09:48 AM
This time the exact question asked and more than 675 people polled!


Sarah Palin said the responsibility for the Arizona shootings rests solely with the alleged shooter and blamed "journalists and pundits" for manufacturing a “blood libel” by blaming it on political rhetoric. Do you agree?

YouYes -- There is no evidence that the accused shooter had any political motives and blaming his actions on words used by Palin and others is a way to score political points.

No - Regardless of the motive involved, political rhetoric has become too destructive in recent years and the use of a term like “blood libel” only makes it worse.

I’m not sure -- Our national leaders do need to be more careful about the words they use but it’s also unfair to single out certain individuals for statements or imagery that are also used by others.
Results of 157,532 votes with 3,990 comments


34%
Yes -- There is no evidence that the accused shooter had any political motives and blaming his actions on words used by Palin and others is a way to score political points.54,050 votes


61%
No - Regardless of the motive involved, political rhetoric has become too destructive in recent years and the use of a term like “blood libel” only makes it worse.96,084 votes


5%
I’m not sure -- Our national leaders do need to be more careful about the words they use but it’s also unfair to single out certain individuals for statements or imagery that are also used by others.7,398 votes

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41036993/ns/politics-more_politics

Fanta46's photo
Wed 01/12/11 10:05 AM
157,532 votes with 96,084 votes saying,
No - Regardless of the motive involved, political rhetoric has become too destructive in recent years and the use of a term like “blood libel” only makes it worse.



I wonder what happened with the CBS Poll?

Dragoness's photo
Wed 01/12/11 10:10 AM
We have been subjected to the hatemongering and fearmongering for so damn long, well since Obama started campaigning, how could we not all see the connection?

And we have all seen the unbalanced come out in droves because of Obama and all the hatemongering and fearmongering.

I have actually seen those I thought to be mentally competent go completely outer space on me because a black man was going to be president. They lost their minds.

Of course the Dems got lumped into the hatemongering over the president so they were deserving of the same fate.

And there you have it. Hatemongering and fearmongering allowed to create a volatile environment.

ShiningArmour's photo
Wed 01/12/11 10:12 AM
I don't think the shooter followed politics.

I think he was nuts. As in not sane. Which is why he shot someone.

It has nothing to do with conservatives.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 01/12/11 10:29 AM
As a group Republicans are the most uninformed.

I know people who were never Republican until a Black man became President.
My guess is had Obama been a Repub, they would now be Democrats.

Sarah Palin is the most ignorant and unqualified Politician I've ever seen and yet look at her support. Look at the reasons they support her. (Wow! She has nice legs.) LOL

A lot of the hate filled, radical voices don't even vote.
They just spout off with their uninformed mouths.


Dragoness's photo
Wed 01/12/11 10:29 AM
Not all conservatives are right wing nuts. But there are a good sprinkling of them in there.

In my opinion
The birthers are not stable
Those that believe Obama is a socialist/communist/Muslim are not stable.
The religious fanatics and the racists are in there too.

After that you have the sane conservatives.

And those right wing nuts have been propagating hate and fear in manner to incite violence.

Seakolony's photo
Wed 01/12/11 11:25 AM

Not all conservatives are right wing nuts. But there are a good sprinkling of them in there.

In my opinion
The birthers are not stable
Those that believe Obama is a socialist/communist/Muslim are not stable.
The religious fanatics and the racists are in there too.

After that you have the sane conservatives.

And those right wing nuts have been propagating hate and fear in manner to incite violence.

Polls are not stable

Seakolony's photo
Wed 01/12/11 11:25 AM

Not all conservatives are right wing nuts. But there are a good sprinkling of them in there.

In my opinion
The birthers are not stable
Those that believe Obama is a socialist/communist/Muslim are not stable.
The religious fanatics and the racists are in there too.

After that you have the sane conservatives.

And those right wing nuts have been propagating hate and fear in manner to incite violence.

Polls are not stable

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 01/12/11 11:55 AM
Sane responses are a waste of time.

If one was to research past posts one would find that some only show when political points need to be hammered home to offset political losses cause we arn't as stupid as people thought.

Ad infindium ad naseum.

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 01/12/11 12:44 PM



Its early in the day, most people are still at work. We have to wait and see what the results will be at 8 o' clock tonight.

Thomas3474's photo
Wed 01/12/11 12:44 PM

We have been subjected to the hatemongering and fearmongering for so damn long, well since Obama started campaigning, how could we not all see the connection?

And we have all seen the unbalanced come out in droves because of Obama and all the hatemongering and fearmongering.

I have actually seen those I thought to be mentally competent go completely outer space on me because a black man was going to be president. They lost their minds.

Of course the Dems got lumped into the hatemongering over the president so they were deserving of the same fate.

And there you have it. Hatemongering and fearmongering allowed to create a volatile environment.




Who's spreading the hatemongering and fearmonering? oops Seems to me you are doing a fine job spreading the hate and fear.

Yes indeed there you have it and that is only on the first page.


Fox News: The No. 1 Name in Murder Fantasies

The Wrath of Fools: An Open Letter to the Far Right

5 Reasons That The AZ Shooter Jared Loughner Is A Teabagger


Dragoness's photo
Wed 01/12/11 12:47 PM


We have been subjected to the hatemongering and fearmongering for so damn long, well since Obama started campaigning, how could we not all see the connection?

And we have all seen the unbalanced come out in droves because of Obama and all the hatemongering and fearmongering.

I have actually seen those I thought to be mentally competent go completely outer space on me because a black man was going to be president. They lost their minds.

Of course the Dems got lumped into the hatemongering over the president so they were deserving of the same fate.

And there you have it. Hatemongering and fearmongering allowed to create a volatile environment.


It is not hatemongering or fearmongering.

I guess some don't understand the definitions of both huh?


Who's spreading the hatemongering and fearmonering? oops Seems to me you are doing a fine job spreading the hate and fear.

Yes indeed there you have it and that is only on the first page.


Fox News: The No. 1 Name in Murder Fantasies

The Wrath of Fools: An Open Letter to the Far Right

5 Reasons That The AZ Shooter Jared Loughner Is A Teabagger



msharmony's photo
Wed 01/12/11 12:49 PM
I wonder how many there are who believe the political environment was not responsible for this tragedy(Id say his obsession with this figure could arguably qualify him as a political fanatic) but dont likewise alleviate religion as responsible for tragedies done by religious fanatics

I tend to believe in social responsibility so far as my belief that EVERYTHING affects something else and all choices lead to other choices,,,,which is why I can aknowledge the concept of 'responsibility' over 'blame',,,,but it would be an interesting side by side poll if the questions were asked


is the political climate responsible for the recent shooting?

and


is the religion of Islam responsible for 9/11?

mightymoe's photo
Wed 01/12/11 12:50 PM

I don't think the shooter followed politics.

I think he was nuts. As in not sane. Which is why he shot someone.

It has nothing to do with conservatives.


you really shouldn't waste your typing skills on these people... they are so anti repub they do not even see straight anymore...makes me sick to read some of there posts, and i'm not even repub either...

mightymoe's photo
Wed 01/12/11 12:51 PM

I wonder how many there are who believe the political environment was not responsible for this tragedy(Id say his obsession with this figure could arguably qualify him as a political fanatic) but dont likewise alleviate religion as responsible for tragedies done by religious fanatics

I tend to believe in social responsibility so far as my belief that EVERYTHING affects something else and all choices lead to other choices,,,,which is why I can aknowledge the concept of 'responsibility' over 'blame',,,,but it would be an interesting side by side poll if the questions were asked


is the political climate responsible for the recent shooting?

and


is the religion of Islam responsible for 9/11?
no, he was in love with her and crazy to boot... and yes, islam is to blame...

Bestinshow's photo
Wed 01/12/11 12:58 PM
This is how Sarah Palin really feels about violence and Giffords:

Jesse Kelly, Rep. Giffords' Republican opponent in a hard fought race for reelection held an event in June 2010 that makes the stakes all too clear. He asked supporters to donate $50 in order to "shoot a fully automatic M16" to "get on target" and help "remove Gabrielle Giffords."1

Sarah Palin subsequently praised Jesse Kelly on Fox Business News saying: "I don't feel worthy to lace his combat boots."2

1. "Giffords Opponent, Jesse Kelly, Held June Event to 'Shoot a Fully Automatic M16' to 'Get on Target' and 'Remove Gabrielle Giffords,'", FireDogLake, January 8, 2011

2 "Sarah Palin praises Jesse Kelly on Fox Business News," Tuscon Citizen, August 26, 2010.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/01/12-10

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/12/11 12:59 PM


I wonder how many there are who believe the political environment was not responsible for this tragedy(Id say his obsession with this figure could arguably qualify him as a political fanatic) but dont likewise alleviate religion as responsible for tragedies done by religious fanatics

I tend to believe in social responsibility so far as my belief that EVERYTHING affects something else and all choices lead to other choices,,,,which is why I can aknowledge the concept of 'responsibility' over 'blame',,,,but it would be an interesting side by side poll if the questions were asked


is the political climate responsible for the recent shooting?

and


is the religion of Islam responsible for 9/11?
no, he was in love with her and crazy to boot... and yes, islam is to blame...



in love with her? lol,,ok

so how is his craziness the catalyst for his action
but the craziness of 'religious fanatics' not the catalyst for theirs?

Bestinshow's photo
Wed 01/12/11 01:13 PM
Edited by Bestinshow on Wed 01/12/11 01:13 PM
Sarah Palin said the responsibility for the Arizona shootings rests solely with the alleged shooter and blamed "journalists and pundits" for manufacturing a “blood libel” by blaming it on political rhetoric. Do you agree?
I wonder who tells Palin what to say? Who is ventriloquists who has there arm up her butt and makes her mouth move to their words?

mightymoe's photo
Wed 01/12/11 01:32 PM



I wonder how many there are who believe the political environment was not responsible for this tragedy(Id say his obsession with this figure could arguably qualify him as a political fanatic) but dont likewise alleviate religion as responsible for tragedies done by religious fanatics

I tend to believe in social responsibility so far as my belief that EVERYTHING affects something else and all choices lead to other choices,,,,which is why I can aknowledge the concept of 'responsibility' over 'blame',,,,but it would be an interesting side by side poll if the questions were asked


is the political climate responsible for the recent shooting?

and


is the religion of Islam responsible for 9/11?
no, he was in love with her and crazy to boot... and yes, islam is to blame...



in love with her? lol,,ok

so how is his craziness the catalyst for his action
but the craziness of 'religious fanatics' not the catalyst for theirs?

crazy is crazy, no matter what the context...if you think flying planes into buildings is not crazy, or the crazy people cheering afterwords, i don't know what else to say... personally, i think all fanatics are slightly insane... i have a feeling it will come out in a few days that he had a crush on her, and felt spurned...like i said, crazy is crazy, no matter the context...

mightymoe's photo
Wed 01/12/11 01:36 PM

This is how Sarah Palin really feels about violence and Giffords:

Jesse Kelly, Rep. Giffords' Republican opponent in a hard fought race for reelection held an event in June 2010 that makes the stakes all too clear. He asked supporters to donate $50 in order to "shoot a fully automatic M16" to "get on target" and help "remove Gabrielle Giffords."1

Sarah Palin subsequently praised Jesse Kelly on Fox Business News saying: "I don't feel worthy to lace his combat boots."2

1. "Giffords Opponent, Jesse Kelly, Held June Event to 'Shoot a Fully Automatic M16' to 'Get on Target' and 'Remove Gabrielle Giffords,'", FireDogLake, January 8, 2011

2 "Sarah Palin praises Jesse Kelly on Fox Business News," Tuscon Citizen, August 26, 2010.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/01/12-10


i don't get what you are saying... your thinking it's palins fault?
did she pull the trigger? did she talk or pay him to do it? did she even know this jackass? he pulled the trigger, no matter what else you may think, and trying to blame everyone else just seems stupid...

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