Nope ,
I'm not gonna believe in any bible stories /or other holy books / because God can't be shaped and presented as ppl want.
Their imaginations and delusions have nothing to do with God.

So.... did you give your customers your ready , in a proper way done product or you gave them new parables and allegories ?

Cowboy wrote:





ermm.. the logic is that the objects fall down from round places , not from flat one ...






the tax -collectors will gonna find them

I give my clients complete (usually), stable (usually) applications, but they cannot understand how they work, without allegories. They know how to use the application (front end user interface), but what is going on in the back end is a mystery to them.

It's sort of the same way with our world. We can see and understand many of the things going on in the physical universe around us. But for us to understand the spiritual world, we need parables and allegories.

Thank you , I see you don't give them parables or allegories abt "eating" ,"punishing" or "rewarding " buttons but the real, properly working applications and correctly recommendations abt the way how to deal with them and each page or stuff has placed absolutely correct at their place.

and since your work works perfect for them they not gonna come and ask you what is it behind the application.

So you put your logical way with dealing with your products but you underestimate the God's ability to show His power, presence or whatever there in the most proper and understanding for people way.







Which all of the people want - to know Him, not how/what He has done or doing

God is largely unknowable, because God is a spirit. Humans can't know the spiritual, because we have such limited experience with the spiritual. So God communicates those concepts through parables and allegories.

Hence -according to you he is not our Creator ????
Because the spirits can't create matter .




According to your words God created something/matter/ from nothing/spirit/ and to be all process finished instead to use clear signs and make all ppl know abt His existence by clear and simple way ,He ordered to be used parables and allegory..

There is no logic at all

Well if God has nothing to do with "religious" beliefs, then where do you get off suggesting that forgiveness was never asked for?

Also, as an example, gay person would not need to ask for forgiveness for being gay. From their perspective there's no sin in being gay. It's the natural way that God made them. So it would be utterly foolish for them to ask God to forgive them for the way that God made them.

I realize that your "religion" taught you that God hates homosexuality.

But as you point out that's religion, not God.

what makes one think that God does not care? Is it because a loved one doesn't get acceptable results from prayer or expected results for something? and, does that indicate that God does not love you. Or , does it represent God's knowledge of the future and what will be good for each person, on their own.?

One of us isn't understanding the other. Your summation of what I said and your conclusions don't match what I've said. This discussion doesn't feel productive at all, I think I'll bow out.

Don't know what religion you're speaking of. But my father our god has told me that homosexuality is a sin.

There is NO god...the universe doesn't care...it will give you what you give others!

Such a simple concept, so sad it's all been preverted!!

Homosexuality is a choice, a decision. God didn't make them any way, he made them just the same way he made you or I.

So you're denying your religion now?

Interesting.

By the way, I can't say I blame you. I recognized the fallacy in it too when I was about your age. Maybe a little younger; in my late teens.

Yes I do not believe and or worship a "religion". I believe and worship our father.

I didn't wade through all the pages, but OP, you speak of deism as opposed to theism.

Deists basically believe that a deity created the world then walked away.

Theists believe in a personal god who watches over them and cares about whether they wipe their noses or not.

It is my understanding that Christian gnostics were deists, but they were branded as heretics and stamped out by Pauline Christianity.

This is the problem with anthropomorphizing deity: if there is a "father," then by default, there is a mother. The Virgin Mary does not qualify.

Humans make gods in our image and give them names, faces, and personalities. The god of the Christian Scriptures, even more so than the Hebrew Scriptures, is male because it is a male dominated religion.

Spidercmb wrote:


That is debates for .. to reach a point of understanding and usually in debates both sides claim that other side doesn't understand them.
Ok I try to push you beyond the words ...I asked /ask you logical questions out of the stoned religious matrix and I hope that you
gonna try to give me your ideas abt it.


So I asked you simple quetions:

If God is a spirit how then He is ours and all the universe's material life/substance a creator?

And how you know that he is a spirit ?

It's not necessarily male dominated. The man is to treat the woman with the utmost respect and to love her as himself. To care for her, to provide for her, to love her unconditionally.

And no there is no mother necessarily. You're thinking with a secular mind set. God didn't have sex to have us, he created us. He didn't "make" us, he created us and everything that has ever been in existence.

CowboyGH wrote:


Wooow ... we are the witnesses of a miracle - new born prophet CowboyGH !

Hallelujah !

Because till now God has talk to 4 persons-prophets only: Abraham, Mosses,Jesus and Mohammad.


CowboyGH either you are the newest born prophet or with this claim you said the biggest and arrogant lie about God and his partiality for the part of people. And this is one of the biggest sins.

Our father has told everyone. Some don't listen, some ignore, some just flat out lie and say he didn't say as such. I'm nothing special.