Well you can't really blame him...after all you's were both set up...one to blame is the one who set you up...

The one flaw to this statement is that a dude usually picks up and pays for the chick because he asks her out. If a dude asks a chick out and then can't even pay for himself then he's just looking for someone to take care of his worthless azz. Especially on the first date, first impressions are everything. Sounds like he wasn't trying to be anything more than a pansy.

make that pansy spelled p-u-s-s-y

I find it interesting that you complain about paying and driving when your attitude seemed different on the role reversal thread. Here is a role reversal from traditional standards and now all of a sudden it's a big deal? He asked for a kiss? Which means he wanted your permission and not to just go for it and see. Didn't anyone else's parents teach people to ask? The worst someone can say is no. You didn't think he was attractive? That doesn't mean he knew that. You are trying to paint this person in a bad light but it seems to be doing the opposite if you look at it from an outsiders perspective.

Notes to guys. You have to ask them out, drive, pay, make, the conversation work, be attractive, and don't even think of asking for a kiss. Glad the dating field is so leveled btw genders.

I don't do blind dates for this reason!!
IF a man can't pick me up, then I wouldn't date him.
I would pay for my own meal, things are tight every where!!
Looks are NOT the main thing for me...personality is!!
I NEVER kiss on a first date though!!!

I GUESS YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR MIND MADE UP ON THIS ONE...USE YOUR GUT INSTINCTS!! GOOD LUCK!!

Maybe they should have talked first? It was a BLIND DATE and he could have said something about not having his car. Then he could have said something about going "dutch" maybe? I really don't think that the men are going to sit there and do all of the talking because most of the time, its the woman doing the talking. Looks are not the only thing that counts, I would rather have someone with a great personality then have a handsome guy and a crappy personality!! I actually think its very polite IF they ask you if they can kiss you...this way, if you are not feeling it, you just say something nice about waiting.

I am not just talking about in her case. There are many people on here that said basically for these very reasons she shouldn't go on a second date. My point is more along the lines of in todays society when we are fighting for equal rights why are our attitudes still like this? We can't say a woman should cook because she is a woman but we can say the man should pay because he is the man. Didn't the man traditionally pay because originally society said the womans place was in the home and the man provided. We have since changed our thinking in that since but not in the dating since. Why?

Most definately not! haha. For what it's worth I'm sorry he was such a loser lol. I've never acted like that ever, but I have been on several crappy dates. I guess we all have!
Cheers!
-Ek

There is no flaw to my statement. A male is expected to be transportation and ATM in all dating situations. I can't think of even one time I've heard a woman say "No, I've got this." So, I stand by my remarks. If you want to prove me wrong, pull into my driveway, ask me to empty my pockets at the door, take me to dinner, and then make judgements on my opinion.

I find a good portion of women don't mind paying there own way on a first date. The problem is, and I have had this happen, is that some women (when you offer to pick up the check) still want to pay there way.

True. Years ago, it was common, natural for the man to pay for everything on a first date. And, even as times have changed, most guys still want to do this. Why? Well, to be impressive for one. But I also say it is an ego thing. I don't feel that this will ever change, even as our society evolves. Women, for the most part, love to be doted on. They still like a man to open there car door. Hell, some even love it when a man shows up with just a flower (provided she is not allergic, lol).

And, personally, I would feel like a woman's biatch if she paid for everything on a first date. Then again, if I was in the man-whore business, I guess it wouldn't be an unusual thing.

Whoever asks the other person out is usually the one responsible to pay. If guys don't like that then perhaps they should just wait to be asked out.

He had no problem asking for a ride, so why couldn't he asked before their date if she would spot him? Because he's a jerk, that's why.

What the hell happened to chivalry?

If a guy wants to be kissed at the end of the night, then perhaps instead of asking for one like retard, he should act like a man and show that he can take care of himself.

Most things in this world are not free. Relationships take time, money, and effort... for both people involved.

To ask someone on a date, and then after eating a meal with them, you inform them that you have no money is a disrespectful thing to do.

It comes down to communication skills and having some integrity and people that use others have neither.
Some people seriously need to grow up and stop thinkin that other people are there just to take care of them.

good grief - HE invited her - that is definitive

does not sound at all like it went well - He asked her to dinner. U dont invite someone and then expect them to pay. he's lucky she had the $$$. and if the convo wasnt flowing - that's not a good date

if he wasn't aware that things were not going well...even worse

sounds like he wanted a free meal and easy sex. If a guy doesn't talk & try to get to know u - he's usually just in it to try to get laid

actually it was a blind date was it not? How is there really an invitation if you don't know each other. Also how many girls do you know that ask guys out?

It was a blind date. Someone set them up.

PLEASE TELL MEE U MADE THIS UP? TOO FUNNY. if u do. may i please take his place?

Nope